In-season improvement

[wadesworld]

OK, I know we're all trying to be positive, but being positive on this mess is like being positive after the Chernobyl meltdown. It's like saying, "well, at least we've solved some of the hazardous waste disposal problem."

Yes, some players have improved. But not enough that we're winning against the bottom of the Big East. We're not winning and so we're really not improving.

We lost to DePaul, for heaven's sake. DePaul. You get fired at Marquette for losing to DePaul!

We won't improve until I hear Coach Shaka say, "we're going into the portal and we're offering a deal to ____________, who we think can complement Nigel. He hit 40 percent from three-land last year. And, we offered _________ and he accepted a scholarship to Marquette. He's a strong inside presence and we're confident he can be an integral part of our under-the-basket offense and defense."

Yeah that's certainly not happening.  He'll recruit guys in the portal.  He's not going to tell you who or tell you how much he's offering them.

[Scoop Snoop]

OK, I know we're all trying to be positive, but being positive on this mess is like being positive after the Chernobyl meltdown. It's like saying, "well, at least we've solved some of the hazardous waste disposal problem."

Yes, some players have improved. But not enough that we're winning against the bottom of the Big East. We're not winning and so we're really not improving.

We lost to DePaul, for heaven's sake. DePaul. You get fired at Marquette for losing to DePaul!

We won't improve until I hear Coach Shaka say, "we're going into the portal and we're offering a deal to ____________, who we think can complement Nigel. He hit 40 percent from three-land last year. And, we offered _________ and he accepted a scholarship to Marquette. He's a strong inside presence and we're confident he can be an integral part of our under-the-basket offense and defense."

Add "and for those who think I'm going refuse to offer more than any current member of the team makes? Think again. That ship has sailed. Or maybe I should say sunk."

He's not going to say anything near what you or I wrote dgies, but it's fun to write posts like ours.

[Jay Bee]

36% from 3 you are considering ok....but not good? There is exactly one player in the Big East (Lindsay Nova 38%) who fits that criteria.

Ummm, what are you talking about?

[Jay Bee]

I'd be shocked if Sean is here next year. And JB (and others) would know more than me, but if Sean doesn't play again this year he's at 25% of games played. Would he qualify for an additional year? He could transfer and play 2?

Answer: By the book, no. However, nothing is by the book. There was a critical error made by Marquette last year which I mentioned at the time.. but in these days, rules don't matter much.

Sean obviously played his first year, and was over the medical hardship waiver threshold in year two. In year three - here's where the critical error was made - MU folks have stated that he was physically able to play during the season, but made the conscious decision to redshirt. That is, his redshirt decision was in his control. Stay with me.

Now in year 4, **if he is physically incapable of playing for the remainder of the year**, with some medical docs/opinions, this season he would fit the bill as a vanilla case for a medical hardship waiver.

HOWEVER, the problem is the Five Year Clock (which may be on its last gasp anyway). If you have two years that are 'missed' (including years in which you fit the criteria for a medical hardship waiver) due to circumstances outside of your control, a waiver of the Five Year Rule can be granted.

However, year 3 he missed due to his own decision and not due to being physically incapable of playing.

So, by the book -- last year would mark year 5 and he's done.

What would likely happen -- were he to not play the rest of this year due to injury and then transferred -- is that AFTER his year 5 season (e.g., season 1 with a new team), the new school would petition for a waiver of the Five Year Rule, likely arguing he wasn't actually physically able to play in year 3, contrary to public statements made by MU.

In this day and age, probably a decent chance he may still get an extra year... but it probably wouldn't be a certainty until another 15+ months from now, and by the book is a no.

[muwarrior69]

Add "and for those who think I'm going refuse to offer more than any current member of the team makes? Think again. That ship has sailed. Or maybe I should say sunk."

He's not going to say anything near what you or I wrote dgies, but it's fun to write posts like ours.

It will be more fun to see not what he says but what he does.

[Scoop Snoop]

It will be more fun to see not what he says but what he does.

It won't be any fun if he says "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead! " and he stays with RGV as his operating system untouched.

[tower912]

Oh, it will be fun.  Of a different sort.

[We R Final Four]

Ummm, what are you talking about?

1. 34% is considered average or ok 3 pt shooting percentage. At or above 37% is considered good.

[tower912]

10-33 bad
11-33 decent
12-33 good
13-33 elite

It would be nice if MU shot better.

[Jay Bee]

1. 34% is considered average or ok 3 pt shooting percentage. At or above 37% is considered good.

That's what YOU consider good, perhaps. But that silly comment wasn't what I was axin about... you said, "There is exactly one player in the Big East (Lindsay Nova 38%) who fits that criteria."... I am not sure what you're trying to state?

[We R Final Four]

That's what YOU consider good, perhaps. But that silly comment wasn't what I was axin about... you said, "There is exactly one player in the Big East (Lindsay Nova 38%) who fits that criteria."... I am not sure what you're trying to state?

Based upon Captain Quette's parameters........that there is currently one "good" three pointer shooter currently in the Big East.

[BM1090]

Based upon Captain Quette's parameters........that there is currently one "good" three pointer shooter currently in the Big East.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/big-east/men/2026-stats.html

There are 19 players in the Big East shooting over 38% and making at least 1 3P per game

[We R Final Four]

Read it wrong. My bad.

[Jay Bee]

Based upon Captain Quette's parameters........that there is currently one "good" three pointer shooter currently in the Big East.

#FakeNews #Lies

You may be querying something stupid that is not within the good Captain's parameters. How a college basketball fan could honestly think there was one guy shooting over 36% in the Big East from 3 is insane. Very concerned for your mental health.

To WIN the 3FG% award, there are tight constraints (M2N won at 54.7% as a frosh.. all praise due).

This season there may be ~125 guys in all of D1 college basketball who qualify for the award. Obviously you wouldn't want to award it to a guy who goes 1/1 all year... but, the restriction is very TIGHT.

There are plenty of guys in the BEast shooting 36%+ from 3. Good fricken grief.

Fricken Lindsay's teammates Askew (35/79 for 44.3%) and Hodge (37/98 for 37.8%) are among those.

Come to reality, bub.

[DoctorV]

Do you really believe that Shaka will bring in "3 good portal players " next year?

2-3

I'd be surprised if it's less than 2.

Why? Simply because Zaide has left and I'd be very surprised if Marquette didn't have 2 of the following 3 transfer out
Sean Jones, Tre Norman, Caedin Hamilton.

Not trying to chase anyone out, but that's 3 open schollies if 2 transfer. That doesn't mention a possible surprise exit like Josh feeling like he's ready for big time minutes at a smaller program, trying to work his way back to a future NIL at a P5 program as an example

No inside info all just speculative.
I just can't see a world where less than 2-3 spots are open to fill.

As for the portal... I think Shaka is MORE active if this season ends well because he will want to complement what he has
I think he goes with a defensive oriented/experienced 5 and a stud/star scorer. I'd wager a 2/3 or pure shooting/combo guard for the second if he can't get an elite wing.

That would leave Nigel/Adrien/Royce/DO and a few able bodied difference maker portalers to go along with the young guys and frosh. I like where that could go

[mileskishnish72]

2-3

I'd be surprised if it's less than 2.

Why? Simply because Zaide has left and I'd be very surprised if Marquette didn't have 2 of the following 3 transfer out
Sean Jones, Tre Norman, Caedin Hamilton.

Not trying to chase anyone out, but that's 3 open schollies if 2 transfer. That doesn't mention a possible surprise exit like Josh feeling like he's ready for big time minutes at a smaller program, trying to work his way back to a future NIL at a P5 program as an example

No inside info all just speculative.
I just can't see a world where less than 2-3 spots are open to fill.

As for the portal... I think Shaka is MORE active if this season ends well because he will want to complement what he has
I think he goes with a defensive oriented/experienced 5 and a stud/star scorer. I'd wager a 2/3 or pure shooting/combo guard for the second if he can't get an elite wing.

That would leave Nigel/Adrien/Royce/DO and a few able bodied difference maker portalers to go along with the young guys and frosh. I like where that could go

Hope you're right about the "transfers" out.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

With Nigel in the process of cementing himself as a potential star who has earned big minutes, I'd be surprised if Sean doesn't look for an opportunity elsewhere where he can start. 

Of course, if he does move on that leaves a hole at backup PG and I'd argue our two biggest portal needs would be a starting center and a starting wing. 

[Its DJOver]

Nothing would surprise me regarding Sean.  Some people would be fine collecting whatever he's going to get in NIL next year and play a backup role. He would likely take a pay cut in order to drop down to a level where he would start and play 30+ mpg. He also, in theory, would be getting his degree this spring, no idea if that would play a factor. It's also pretty clear that his mom/family are completely bought into Shaka's RGV if you see some of the tweets that she's had while he's been injured.

If he wants to stay in a reduced role, that'd be fine, if he wants to move on, I'd also be okay with that. I think the only thing that won't happen is Shaka forcing him out.

[TallTitan34]

We lost to DePaul, for heaven's sake. DePaul. You get fired at Marquette for losing to DePaul!

FWIW I've seen waaaaaay better Marquette teams lose to waaaaay worse DePaul teams.

[MU82]

With Nigel in the process of cementing himself as a potential star who has earned big minutes, I'd be surprised if Sean doesn't look for an opportunity elsewhere where he can start. 

Of course, if he does move on that leaves a hole at backup PG and I'd argue our two biggest portal needs would be a starting center and a starting wing. 

Combo guard. Like a Chase Ross who can handle the ball a bit better.

And a 5.

[JTJ3]

Combo guard. Like a Chase Ross who can handle the ball a bit better.

And a 5.

This.  Need a big guard who can handle some PG duties but is big enough to guard 2/3 so he can play with Nigel without us sacrificing size defensively.  No more stupid Nigel/Sean type lineups.

Between Nigel, Stevens developing and the transfer above we'd be back to having multiple creators.  Need to take some of that pressure off Nigel.

Everyones favorite option Minessale actually fits that role pretty much perfectly.

[MU82]

This.  Need a big guard who can handle some PG duties but is big enough to guard 2/3 so he can play with Nigel without us sacrificing size defensively.  No more stupid Nigel/Sean type lineups.

Between Nigel, Stevens developing and the transfer above we'd be back to having multiple creators.  Need to take some of that pressure off Nigel.

Everyones favorite option Minessale actually fits that role pretty much perfectly.

I don't know anything about him except for seeing him mentioned here. Can he hit a 3?

[wadesworld]

I don't know anything about him except for seeing him mentioned here. Can he hit a 3?

No.  And I'd rather have a lockdown defender, and don't think Minessale is that.

I'd be happy to have him on the roster, if we have a defensive wing and defensive big added to the roster as well.

[MuMark]

"We lost to DePaul, for heaven's sake. DePaul. You get fired at Marquette for losing to DePaul!"

Buzz lost to DePaul......so did Crean .....neither got fired.

DePaul actually has a head coach now......they likely won't be the dumpster fire program they were for most of the last 20 years.

Wojo lost to DePaul.....does anybody really think that is why he was let go?

It's been a very difficult year......we don't need to invent things to make it look even worse.

[Scoop Snoop]

I'd rather have a lockdown defender, and don't think Minessale is that.

Like Stevie penning that smart-ass Xavier player twice against the out-of-bounds line at the end of a game that seemed lost to Xavier at Fiserv. I loved Stevie's "you're not going anywhere!"

Just one of many great memories of him.