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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 10:37:35 AMwe have big donors, it's how we could buy out Wojo.

It's not that we have to compete with Duke, but how about Nova and Creighton?

OK, now I'm in. No reason that Marquette cannot compete with most high majors, especially within the BE. It is the obsession with measuring us against the wealthiest teams and a natty that annoys me.

I think the most important step would be for Shaka to drop his self-imposed rules on working with agents and his pay structure. 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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muwarrior69

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Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 10:37:35 AMwe have big donors, it's how we could buy out Wojo.

It's not that we have to compete with Duke, but how about Nova and Creighton?
Sure, we bought out Wojo to get Shaka, but that was before NIL (or it just started I don't recall) and now revenue sharing. It would be nice to compete against Duke and we should be competing with UCONN. Like you say if we have the donors let get those top 75 recruits and transfers or one of those international "pros" who can actually play ball.

muwarrior69

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Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 10:46:00 AMOK, now I'm in. No reason that Marquette cannot compete with most high majors, especially within the BE. It is the obsession with measuring us against the wealthiest teams and a natty that annoys me.

I think the most important step would be for Shaka to drop his self-imposed rules on working with agents and his pay structure. 
Again that step will be answered in the off season and yes, we should be competing with UCONN.

brewcity77

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 10:55:56 AMSure, we bought out Wojo to get Shaka, but that was before NIL (or it just started I don't recall) and now revenue sharing. It would be nice to compete against Duke and we should be competing with UCONN. Like you say if we have the donors let get those top 75 recruits and transfers or one of those international "pros".

We have the donors to compete. No, we aren't going to have Kentucky's $22M payroll, but what has that gotten them? We can compete at the top of this league and with most high majors because they are going to prioritize football and you don't have as many scholarships to fill in basketball. Will we need to be smarter with our money? Sure. But that's always been the case.

muwarrior69

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Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 11:06:30 AMWe have the donors to compete. No, we aren't going to have Kentucky's $22M payroll, but what has that gotten them? We can compete at the top of this league and with most high majors because they are going to prioritize football and you don't have as many scholarships to fill in basketball. Will we need to be smarter with our money? Sure. But that's always been the case.
Does UCONN prioritize football over basketball? That is who we have to compete with and they are winning Nattys more than any other school since 2000.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 10:55:56 AMSure, we bought out Wojo to get Shaka, but that was before NIL (or it just started I don't recall) and now revenue sharing. It would be nice to compete against Duke and we should be competing with UCONN. Like you say if we have the donors let get those top 75 recruits and transfers or one of those international "pros" who can actually play ball.

Here is the reality for most P4 programs with football (this is an interview with BC's AD):

Boston College AD Blake James projects a distribution cap of $21.3M for the upcoming year with 75% allocated to football, 15% to men's basketball, and 5% to women's basketball. While the internal revenue share is maxed, James admitted the program trails top peers like Indiana in "third-party NIL" deals, emphasizing the need to grow that external bucket via partners like Van Wagner.

That's $3.19 million BC basketball has to distribute in rev share. MU definitely has more than $3.19 million to distribute to hoops. If our number is around $6 million total (I think I'm being conservative with that number), and we give 75% to MBB, then that's $4.5 million. Very few P4 schools are giving MBB more than 15%.

But like BC, we need third party NIL to step up, and that's where the donors come in. But, there's no way we shouldn't be able to afford a Drayton Jones or Michael Ajayi like Butler could this past off-season (along with their top portal signee, who is injured for the year). 
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brewcity77

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 11:19:09 AMDoes UCONN prioritize football over basketball? That is who we have to compete with and they are winning Nattys more than any other school since 2000.

I would urge you to read the post you quoted to the end. The answer is literally right there.

#UnleashJosh

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 10:26:00 AMIt's not an argument it's a fact. The program cannot continue on its current path.

Yes, i think we're all aware of that. Which continues to boil down to "well see what happens in the off season"   ;D

#UnleashJosh

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 10:37:35 AMwe have big donors, it's how we could buy out Wojo.

It's not that we have to compete with Duke, but how about Nova and Creighton?

No, we had big donors for a single solitary one time payment. That doesn't mean those people are willing to put down big bucks every season.

#UnleashJosh

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 11:19:09 AMDoes UCONN prioritize football over basketball? That is who we have to compete with and they are winning Nattys more than any other school since 2000.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 11:19:09 AMDoes UCONN prioritize football over basketball? That is who we have to compete with and they are winning Nattys more than any other school since 2000.


The question is really whose winning nattys since the NIL takeover. Pretty much everything prior to that can be thrown out.

Small Orange Soda

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 11:01:17 AMAgain that step will be answered in the off season and yes, we should be competing with UCONN.

You've done this in like a dozen threads.

muwarrior: Do we have money to compete?

several others: Yes.

muwarrior: Hmm, I guess nobody knows.

Pakuni

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 11:06:30 AMWe have the donors to compete. No, we aren't going to have Kentucky's $22M payroll, but what has that gotten them? We can compete at the top of this league and with most high majors because they are going to prioritize football and you don't have as many scholarships to fill in basketball. Will we need to be smarter with our money? Sure. But that's always been the case.

Yes, exactly this. People pointing to all the money schools like Texas and Michigan State are getting and saying it's proof that Marquette can't compete always ignore that most of that money goes to football. And what's left also has to be shared with other major sports (i.e. baseball at every SEC school, hockey at several Big 10 programs, etc.).
MU won't compete with the bluebloods, but the financial resources exist to maintain a consistently competitive program.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 12:43:40 PMMU won't compete with the bluebloods, but the financial resources exist to maintain a consistently competitive program.

This.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Viper

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 12:43:40 PMYes, exactly this. People pointing to all the money schools like Texas and Michigan State are getting and saying it's proof that Marquette can't compete always ignore that most of that money goes to football. And what's left also has to be shared with other major sports (i.e. baseball at every SEC school, hockey at several Big 10 programs, etc.).
MU won't compete with the bluebloods, but the financial resources exist to maintain a consistently competitive program.
...and every now & then, lightning strikes, another F4 is attained...and it will.
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GoldenWarrior11

Can we compete with successful athletic departments that can spell their own players' names right?  Asking for a friend. 

rocky_warrior

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Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on Today at 01:25:53 PMCan we compete with successful athletic departments that can spell their own players' names right?  Asking for a friend. 

What's the spelling gaffe I've missed?

muwarrior69

Quote from: #UnleashJosh on Today at 12:27:37 PMThe question is really whose winning nattys since the NIL takeover. Pretty much everything prior to that can be thrown out.
Well, UCONN is in the hunt and at least sniffing at a championship in year one of revenue sharing.

MU82

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 02:18:13 PMWell, UCONN is in the hunt and at least sniffing at a championship in year one of revenue sharing.

UConn is a basketball blueblood.
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GoldenWarrior11

Quote from: rocky_warrior on Today at 01:29:43 PMWhat's the spelling gaffe I've missed?

We spelled Nigel's (Nijel) name wrong on athletics website via graphic per X.  I'm sure someone smarter than me can post the original screenshot (it has since been replaced).

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