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tower912

Agreed.

Maybe LIV can host tournaments there.



Seriously, an opportunity for the LPGA.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on April 20, 2026, 07:59:41 PMAgreed.

Maybe LIV can host tournaments there.



Seriously, an opportunity for the LPGA.

They'll add a geriatric event for back-to-back weeks
It's only a few pennies

wadesworld

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 20, 2026, 07:57:26 PMIt kinda sucks that the PGA is abandoning Hawaii. Used to love seeing the Plantation Course views. That's a bucket list course for me.




McDermott's favorite course, too.

MU82

Interesting side-by-side photos on Yahoo Sports. The first is "patrons" watching Scheffler at the Masters, where no cellphones are allowed. The second is fans watching Scheffler at the Heritage, where everyone has a freakin' cellphone ...



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"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on April 21, 2026, 12:44:51 PMInteresting side-by-side photos on Yahoo Sports. The first is "patrons" watching Scheffler at the Masters, where no cellphones are allowed. The second is fans watching Scheffler at the Heritage, where everyone has a freakin' cellphone ...



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Looks like Rory in the first photo.  Nobody wants to get a picture of him anyway.

MU82

Quote from: wadesworld on April 21, 2026, 01:27:41 PMLooks like Rory in the first photo.  Nobody wants to get a picture of him anyway.

Might be. Point still stands.

It's obviously not just golf, either. I know I'm 106 years old, but I don't get the thrill of watching a sporting event through one's phone when the competitors are literally right in front of you.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: wadesworld on April 21, 2026, 01:27:41 PMLooks like Rory in the first photo.  Nobody wants to get a picture of him anyway.
Rory teed off right after Sergio. No one even had any phones because they were all smashed to pieces by his driver.

Uncle Rico

If you weren't watching live, find a replay of Matt Fitzpatrick's bunker shot on 18.  Secured his brothers PGA Tour card.  What a shot, what a moment.
It's only a few pennies

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on April 26, 2026, 05:49:03 PMWhoa, Nelly!

I feel like she should dominate more to be honest. As good a swing as you'll ever see.   Maybe she'll focus and win another 12-15 Majors.  :)

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on April 26, 2026, 05:49:03 PMWhoa, Nelly!

Nice win but that event has been destroyed in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. 
It's only a few pennies

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 26, 2026, 06:28:31 PMNice win but that event has been destroyed in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. 

It seems like they should do a better job of marketing the LPGA. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 26, 2026, 07:04:48 PMIt seems like they should do a better job of marketing the LPGA. 

They were for a bit a few years back but they've gone backwards the last few years.  They don't know how to market the game without legitimate American stars.

It's pretty grim right now.  There is no next Nelly coming up in the American system.  They're hoping Kiara Romero can be a star but I don't see it.  Maybe Asterisk Talley but if she goes to college, she's years away.

Megha Ganne has some game but she's probably well behind the new wave of Koreans.  Rachel Heck deciding not to turn pro hurts, too.

Be nice if Rose Zhang lived up to the hype but she's been pretty meh the last 18 months.

I'll be curious how long Nelly plays as she just got engaged and her sisters game has plummeted since getting married.  The tour will never lean into the foreign players but they're dominating the game.  That's why they take the Chevron money and play this event in Houston.  Need the cash flow.
It's only a few pennies

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 26, 2026, 07:15:00 PMThey were for a bit a few years back but they've gone backwards the last few years.  They don't know how to market the game without legitimate American stars.

It's pretty grim right now.  There is no next Nelly coming up in the American system.  They're hoping Kiara Romero can be a star but I don't see it.  Maybe Asterisk Talley but if she goes to college, she's years away.

Megha Ganne has some game but she's probably well behind the new wave of Koreans.  Rachel Heck deciding not to turn pro hurts, too.

Be nice if Rose Zhang lived up to the hype but she's been pretty meh the last 18 months.

I'll be curious how long Nelly plays as she just got engaged and her sisters game has plummeted since getting married.  The tour will never lean into the foreign players but they're dominating the game.  That's why they take the Chevron money and play this event in Houston.  Need the cash flow.

Yes.  I thought Rose would be the next superstar.  I'm not sure if she's had injuries but she's definitely struggled.  I understand the Asian players have dominated to a degree, but Furue should be respected.  I don't understand why she was listed at 4'11 and is now 5'0.   I stood next to her, she's 4'10 at best btw.  :)

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 26, 2026, 06:28:31 PMNice win but that event has been destroyed in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. 

What else is new?

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 26, 2026, 06:12:13 PMI feel like she should dominate more to be honest. As good a swing as you'll ever see.   Maybe she'll focus and win another 12-15 Majors.  :)

I don't watch a ton of LPGA (just as I don't watch a ton of PGA, other than the majors), but based on what I witnessed this weekend and a few weeks ago when I watched Nelly play, she was superb tee to green but she putted quite poorly.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on April 26, 2026, 07:55:34 PMWhat else is new?

I don't watch a ton of LPGA (just as I don't watch a ton of PGA, other than the majors), but based on what I witnessed this weekend and a few weeks ago when I watched Nelly play, she was superb tee to green but she putted quite poorly.

Ya....that's accurate .  If she can find a way to putt consistently, it's essentially nite-nite. 

tower912

Nellie isn't comfortable being thr face of the LPGA.  Her 2025 stats were remarkable similar to, and in some cases better than, her 2024 stats.  The difference is that somebody always played better in 2025.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

MuggsyB

#92
Quote from: tower912 on April 27, 2026, 05:32:43 AMNellie isn't comfortable being thr face of the LPGA.  Her 2025 stats were remarkable similar to, and in some cases better than, her 2024 stats.  The difference is that somebody always played better in 2025.


She has the talent to win 15-20 majors.  Get the putter on track.  Are you saying the pressure of "being the face of the LPGA" is preventing her from dismissing her competitors?  There are a lot of great players on the LPGA tour, but Nelly has the game to subjugate/eliminate /eviscerate those in her way imo.  :)

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 27, 2026, 08:41:14 AMShe has the talent to win 15-20 majors.  Get the putter on track.  Are you saying the pressure of "being the face of the LPGA" is preventing her from dismissing her competitors?  There are a lot of great players on the LPGA tour, but Nelly has the game to subjugate/eliminate /eviscerate those in her way imo.  :)

15-20?!?  That's unrealistic in modern golf
It's only a few pennies

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 27, 2026, 09:07:58 AM15-20?!?  That's unrealistic in modern golf

Okay....10. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 27, 2026, 09:33:42 AMOkay....10. 

That's more realistic but she won't play competitively long enough to get there.  And, the competition is pretty damn good
It's only a few pennies

tower912

Yes, the competition is that good. And she is uncomfortable being the face.   Which is her right. 
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

MU82

I asked Gemini why South Korea is so well represented on the LPGA Tour but not on the PGA Tour. Here's its answer:

Why South Korean Women Dominate the LPGA

The Se Ri Pak Factor: Se Ri Pak's major championship success in 1998 inspired an entire generation, known as the "Pak Se Ri Kids," to pursue golf.

Intense Training and Focus: South Korean junior golfers often follow a "100% golf" focus, sacrificing academic pursuits to train year-round with extreme intensity.

Supportive Parent Culture: Korean parents heavily invest time and finances into their children's training, with parents often acting as coaches and caddies, creating high motivation for success.

Strong KLPGA Developmental Structure: The KLPGA provides a robust developmental system (Jump Tour, Dream Tour), ensuring players are seasoned before arriving on the LPGA Tour.

Precision vs. Power: While the PGA Tour requires immense driving distance, the LPGA course setup rewards driving accuracy and putting precision, where Korean players often excel.

Why Fewer South Koreans are on the PGA Tour

Mandatory Military Service: All able-bodied South Korean males must serve 18-21 months in the military, typically between ages 19-28, creating a significant disruption to career development.

Physique and Distance Disadvantage: The modern PGA Tour heavily favors extreme distance. While many Korean men play socially, they often struggle to compete with taller, stronger Western golfers in driving distance, a disadvantage compared to the women's game where distance is less dominant.

Deeper Competition Pool: The men's game has a significantly deeper pool of international talent, making it more challenging to break through compared to the women's tour.

Less Developmental Support for Men: While the KLPGA provides excellent support, the men's pro system in Korea has fewer events and lower sponsorship levels than the KLPGA.

Fewer Role Models: The success of Korean men on the PGA Tour has been far less widespread compared to the women's side, with trailblazers like K.J. Choi being exceptions rather than the norm.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on April 27, 2026, 11:58:25 AMYes, the competition is that good. And she is uncomfortable being the face.   Which is her right. 

I don't really get your point.  What does being "the face" have to do with winning Majors?  Pete Sampras wasn't exactly comfortable with the spotlight.  Neither was Navratilova.  Was Sorerentam comfortable with this moniker or was she not "the face" of the LPGA?

tower912

#99
Very few professional golfers, male or female, can sustain excellence.  They have hot streaks and ride the wave to fortune and majors.  Then, marriage, kids, the wrong equipment deal, a swing change striving for more that wrecks what worked before that they can never quite find again, external expectations, internal expectations, injuries, happen and the 100 out of a 100 remains forever elusive. 


I love Nellie's swing.  Long, flowing, powerful.  She is certainly capable of winning more majors.   It would be good for the LPGA in America if she did.   I can easily picture the external expectations messing with her happy.   
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

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