Big East job rankings

[Pakuni]

I've been told by some here that MU would struggle to find a competent replacement willing to take the job if Shaka were to leave.



https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/2009263960373997728?s=20

[JTJ3]

And that Marquette doesnt have the resources to get into bidding wars for talent.  Even though we absolutely do, Shaka just chooses not use all the money available because God forbid he recruits over his own HS recruits that arent developing as needed.

[Hards Alumni]

That list is going to upset quite a few fan bases.

[onepost]

The "all we can get are mid major dart throws" and "we just don't have the resources to compete" crowds aren't gonna like this list.

[Jay Bee]

I've been told by some here that MU would struggle to find a competent replacement willing to take the job if Shaka were to leave.

https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/2009263960373997728?s=20

So this season is just a gigantic wasted opportunity?

[Zog from Margo]

MU could certainly hire a competent replacement. To think they're going to pull a successful coach at his peak (e.g., Otzelberger) from a major football conference school, however, is a pipe dream IMO.

[panda]

I always chuckle when folks here cry poor. While we are not Duke, BYU, Kentucky etc. (no duh) we are more than capable of spending enough to -

1. Keep a highly competitive team on the floor
2. Pay for competitive talent from the high school, transfer ranks
3. Pay for a tenured coach with higher salary demands

This is the same program/boosters who within 5 years, bought out Wojo's big contract, warded off big money offers for Kam Jones multiple times and put together a compelling offer for Kolek to stay for his COVID year.

The money is available sports fans and there is no reason we need to be in the position we're in this year.

[Pakuni]

So this season is just a gigantic wasted opportunity?

I guess that depends on whether any lessons are learned.

[Hards Alumni]

MU could certainly hire a competent replacement. To think they're going to pull a successful coach at his peak (e.g., Otzelberger) from a major football conference school, however, is a pipe dream IMO.

Wrong.  Also, ISU is not a good job.  He will be gone from there sooner rather than later.

[Elonsmusk]

I've been told by some here that MU would struggle to find a competent replacement willing to take the job if Shaka were to leave.



https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/2009263960373997728?s=20

So a program voted higher than ours was able to attract Kevin Willard this past offseason?  Not sure what your point is here, but thinking MU would do better than Shaka is a massive gamble, and again, getting all bent out of shape over 1 really bad year is just stupid.  The fact you along with others think Shaka's seat should be warm is about the dumbest take in Scoop history.

[panda]

So a program voted higher than ours was able to attract Kevin Willard this past offseason?  Not sure what your point is here, but thinking MU would do better than Shaka is a massive gamble, and again, getting all bent out of shape over 1 really bad year is just stupid.  The fact you along with others think Shaka's seat should be warm is about the dumbest take in Scoop history.

"That's right, pay no mind to the guy that past his first season, has taken a single NAIA transfer and tanked the program to depths never seen before. Everything will be totally fine with his approach."

[Elonsmusk]

"That's right, pay no mind to the guy that past his first season, has taken a single NAIA transfer and tanked the program to depths never seen before. Everything will be totally fine with his approach."

3/10 on your troll.  You can do better.

[wadesworld]

Marquette can land a good college basketball coach and is an attractive job, but if they're landing a high major coach it's most likely a situation like Shaka when he came to Marquette.  Someone running away from their current job.  The most likely scenario would be a good mid major coach moving up, which can certainly be a great hire.

I think it's fair to say Louisville is a better job than Marquette.  They hired a coach from the College of Charleston (who was far from their first choice, as guys like Mick Cronin, Scott Drew, Dusty May, and Eric Mussleman were rumored to have been their targets).  Indiana is a better job than Marquette, and hired a guy who spent one year at West Virginia after having been the coach of Drake.  Kentucky hired the head coach from BYU, before BYU was able to use their Mormon money to make it an attractive place to be a student athlete and had been in the WCC.  Michigan hired the coach at Florida Atlantic.

If Otz wants out of Iowa State, there will be plenty of competition for him.  Do any of Oregon, Gonzaga, Michigan State, Houston, or Kansas open up from their coaches retiring?  If UNC's season takes a turn for the worst, does UNC open?  Ohio State?  Will Arizona State commit more money to their NIL than Marquette can?  Kansas State is certainly willing to spend.

We could ultimately become what we hoped and get Scherz.

But I've said all along that Shaka is a good coach and competitive guy who has a lot of money on the line.  My opinion is he will adjust his roster building strategy and have success here.

[Pakuni]

The fact you along with others think Shaka's seat should be warm is about the dumbest take in Scoop history.

Would you say it's dumber than comparing John Dawson to Magic Johnson?

Anyhow, I've repeatedly said I don't think Shaka's seat is hot right now, so I'm, not sure why you keep saying otherwise. Unless, you know, you've got no other intelligent response here.

Why not just admit your claims that Marquette is poor and couldn't hope to be an attractive job is a canard? It would be far less embarrassing for you than these responses.

[We R Final Four]

So they polled coaches......not necessarily head coaches.

[Pakuni]

So they polled coaches......not necessarily head coaches.

The Field of 68 will unveil a series through January in which we'll rank the jobs in every league from top to bottom – and will do it by anonymously polling veteran coaches (head coaches and assistants) in each conference.
There are no specific parameters. Each coach was able to utilize their own specific parameters to determine their list from top to bottom.
However, while recruiting base and facilities were a major factor when I did a similar exercise in 2018, now it's obviously financial resources (NIL) that are paramount.

https://www.on3.com/sites/field-of-68/news/big-east-basketball-job-rankings/

[Billy Hoyle]

If Otz wants out of Iowa State, there will be plenty of competition for him.  Do any of Oregon, Gonzaga, Michigan State, Houston, or Kansas open up from their coaches retiring?  If UNC's season takes a turn for the worst, does UNC open?  Ohio State?  Will Arizona State commit more money to their NIL than Marquette can?  Kansas State is certainly willing to spend.

We could ultimately become what we hoped and get Scherz.

But I've said all along that Shaka is a good coach and competitive guy who has a lot of money on the line.  My opinion is he will adjust his roster building strategy and have success here.

Really good analysis, Wades.

Otz would likely be the hottest candidate, so we would have to hope that coming home to WI and being the big dog at the school is a greater draw than being at a place like UNC.

Houston and Gonzaga already have succession plans in place, so they're out. I do think Altman "retires" after the season. Honestly, for as much as Oats wants the MSU job, I think Otz is their guy, but Izzo still has the fire to keep going, and Otz wouldn't take a "coach in waiting" position like Huss did at Creighton.

That said, hopefully we are not in a position to have to make a change after this season. 

[TallTitan34]

I think that's actually a really good list, however, whoever takes the UConn job after Hurley is going to have large shoes to fill.

[panda]

3/10 on your troll.  You can do better.

[WhiteTrash]

So they polled coaches......not necessarily head coaches.

IMO, that is better than just HCs. Is that your point?

[onepost]

MU could certainly hire a competent replacement. To think they're going to pull a successful coach at his peak (e.g., Otzelberger) from a major football conference school, however, is a pipe dream IMO.

Huh...the kind of coach you'd throw in a Wishlist thread of a hoops message board, perhaps??
You're right, should have just put in Brian Wardle.

[wadesworld]

Really good analysis, Wades.

Otz would likely be the hottest candidate, so we would have to hope that coming home to WI and being the big dog at the school is a greater draw than being at a place like UNC.

Houston and Gonzaga already have succession plans in place, so they're out. I do think Altman "retires" after the season. Honestly, for as much as Oats wants the MSU job, I think Otz is their guy, but Izzo still has the fire to keep going, and Otz wouldn't take a "coach in waiting" position like Huss did at Creighton.

That said, hopefully we are not in a position to have to make a change after this season. 

Good call on Gonzaga and Houston already having succession plans, forgot about those.

[wadesworld]

Huh...the kind of coach you'd throw in a Wishlist thread of a hoops message board, perhaps??
You're right, should have just put in Brian Wardle.

Ah, another "Have to make him say no" candidate.

[Viper]

Wrong.  Also, ISU is not a good job.  He will be gone from there sooner rather than later.

absolutely have to make that phone call. We have A LOT to sell. And, a state guy might want to come back.

[Viper]

So a program voted higher than ours was able to attract Kevin Willard this past offseason?  Not sure what your point is here, but thinking MU would do better than Shaka is a massive gamble, and again, getting all bent out of shape over 1 really bad year is just stupid.  The fact you along with others think Shaka's seat should be warm is about the dumbest take in Scoop history.

take the gamble. Your coach is about to set a record for losing!!!