Beat X on Wednesday

[MarquetteMike1977]

Wow....that is painful to read.

lol I was a deans list business student at Marquette University but English was my worst grade and only class I got a C in haha. Am not a slave to the grammar police. If you did not get what I was saying I apologize.

[MarquetteMike1977]

RGV is really nothing more than an alternate to culture, development, and of course victory (Duh! ) as if there is a team out there that wants to be defeated. (Cue the jokes about Marquette's year to date performances). I was fine with it as background music or elevator music, but it somehow was given primacy. The RGV crap in the Spirit Shop isn't the problem, but the idea that RGV should be the framework for Marquette basketball is very disturbing to me. WHY should fans be expected to play along with this slogan sh!t and wear RGV gear?

Marquette is a college basketball team, not a Middle School team. Ship that crap free of charge to Marquette Michigan. Their schools will love it!

Agree yes this

[MU82]

But were they way behind as compared to where they would have been without the odd coaching choice?

We'll never know.

We agree it's an odd choice.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Yes beat X.   I just watched a DePaul beat Georgetown.    DePaul is 10-6, 2-3 in BE.   Watched the after show about big east and ther put the standings up and even knowing it, when I saw Marquette at the bottom..... I just gulped in disbelief.   

Hopefully Marquette finds their groove starting Wednesday.   Let's Go Marquette!

This is the Game Georgetown shot 1 / 23 from the floor in the 2nd Half. All the announcers and post game show hosts could not recall a team shooting this poorly in a half ever. Beat X Go Marquette!

[Shooter McGavin]

Last spring, my son's HS baseball team completely imploded despite a 25-6 record after the coach preached effort and accountability, then brought up freshmen (none of whom improved the team) instead of giving reps to the guys who had bled and sweated for 3-4 years.   There were juniors quitting in the middle of a game (before you bring up character, both started as seniors on a state championship football team), just packing up and walking because the coach was playing freshmen i steady of rewarding effort, dedication, and previous accomplishments.

The last I heard, this year's team will only have one returning upperclassmen.

It goes both ways.  If you preach hard work, dedication, and attitude, and fail to reward it, that, too, is seen has hypocrisy or betrayal

Previous accomplishments is the key.  Everyone works hard to be a D1 athlete.

[Pakuni]

Last spring, my son's HS baseball team completely imploded despite a 25-6 record after the coach preached effort and accountability, then brought up freshmen (none of whom improved the team) instead of giving reps to the guys who had bled and sweated for 3-4 years.   There were juniors quitting in the middle of a game (before you bring up character, both started as seniors on a state championship football team), just packing up and walking because the coach was playing freshmen i steady of rewarding effort, dedication, and previous accomplishments.

The last I heard, this year's team will only have one returning upperclassmen.

It goes both ways.  If you preach hard work, dedication, and attitude, and fail to reward it, that, too, is seen has hypocrisy or betrayal

If some walk-on or even end-of-the-bench scholarship player is outworking, outhustling and outEGBing everyone else in practice, and he's got that look in his eye, Shaka needs to either start him or he's a hypocrite and betraying his players?
At what point - or is there a point - that production and winning matter?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

We absolutely have to win this game.  A loss would be an MU hoops catastrophe indescribable with words alone. 

Are you ok?

[Scoop Snoop]

Are you ok?

SILLY question Vander!

[swoopem]

If some walk-on or even end-of-the-bench scholarship player is outworking, outhustling and outEGBing everyone else in practice, and he's got that look in his eye, Shaka needs to either start him or he's a hypocrite and betraying his players?
At what point - or is there a point - that production and winning matter?

As long as there's 5 guys running around clear headed and lost in fight, it doesn't matter who they are. That's our best lineup

[Scoop Snoop]

As long as there's 5 guys running around clear headed and lost in fight, it doesn't matter who they are. That's our best lineup

Wait! You actually saw this happen with our team on the court this season? And I do not mean the opponent's team.

[tower912]

If the team is struggling and the walk on is outworking the scholarship players, send a message.

[Pakuni]

If the team is struggling and the walk on is outworking the scholarship players, send a message.

Sending messages = hot; winning games = not.
This kind of sums up the current state of Marquette basketball. 

[tower912]

The season is bad.  The coach still has to coach.

[Billy Hoyle]

Line is Marquette -4.5. Nice to see us favored for a change.

I feel like this game is more dependent on which Xavier team shows up; the one that beat Cincy and Gtown (neither great wins but better than anything we have), or the one that laid down against Creighton and Santa Clara. Hopefully, home court advantage makes a difference tonight.

[WhiteTrash]

I feel like this game is more dependent on which Xavier team shows up; the one that beat Cincy and Gtown (neither great wins but better than anything we have), or the one that laid down against Creighton and Santa Clara. Hopefully, home court advantage makes a difference tonight.

Home court will make a difference, but will it make enough of a difference? If not, 0-20 is a distinct possibility.
(Did I just write that 0-20 is a possibility? Twilight Zone moment)

[WellsstreetWanderer]

I'm of the opinion (hope) that this is the game our shots start to fall  then it gets contagious and we compete and win more than a few

[Biggie Clausen]

If the team is struggling and the walk on is outworking the scholarship players, send a message.

But I don't think Shaka started Caedin to send a message - I think he legitimately thinks (or at least thought) he was the best option.  If he didn't, he wouldn't have tipped off Jon Rothstein that Caedin was supposedly going to be a stud this year.

[tower912]

Yes.  I believe that Caedin was performing the best in practice.

[Zog from Margo]

But I don't think Shaka started Caedin to send a message - I think he legitimately thinks (or at least thought) he was the best option.  If he didn't, he wouldn't have tipped off Jon Rothstein that Caedin was supposedly going to be a stud this year.

Hamilton has the build and movement skills to make one think he could be decent. What holds him back is that he's got no clue how to play. Against the other guys on MU roster, he likely looks good. The problem is that the roster isn't very good so practice wouldn't provide a good read. The staff's inability to assess the talent on the roster has been the unpleasant surprise this season.

[rocky_warrior]

It's an intriguing game in that both teams have some serious issues. 

On paper, our starters (well, unless Hamilton starts) are just about equal in statistics / efficiency.

We'll see.  On the flip side, if MU doesn't win this one, they likely won't be favored in another game until Mar 1, and could go 3 months winless.

Whew!