Losing the Fight

[Hards Alumni]

In most other cases, yes. Give him another season as he's earned it through his previous body of work.

However - this performance is so egregious, and about two years of horrendous decision making that it is unforgivable. Marquette should never, ever have a season like this and it is completely within bounds to terminate him following the ineptitude.

He ignored a major roster building opportunity which led to a collapse last year and the worst season in modern Marquette basketball history this year. Next year doesn't look much better *barring major roster overhaul.

bad take

[Billy Hoyle]

It's pure comedy if you don't think part of this team's problem is the guy who is supposed to be your best player has a 24.4% eFG in conference play and takes 28% of your team's shots.  And he hasn't been very good defensively either.

If Tyler Kolek and Kam Jones had these kind of numbers as seniors they would have been getting shredded.  Why should Chase get a pass?  Kam stepped up into Kolek's role/filled it well. Chase started the year well against cupcakes, but hasn't been close to being able to fill the role Kam vacated.  And Chase has Nigel breaking down the defense consistently.

But he shouldn't have had to; he should have been able to remain in his previous role, but Shaka refused to go get a PG in the Portal.

[panda]

bad take

I know I'm in the minority but if he doesn't make wholesale changes, what's the point? We come back next year, finish in another mediocre/poor spot and then let him go? That's a waste of another season.

It's either big roster changes following this season or you make a coaching move.

[Hards Alumni]

I know I'm in the minority but if he doesn't make wholesale changes, what's the point? We come back next year, finish in another mediocre/poor spot and then let him go? That's a waste of another season.

It's either big roster changes following this season or you make a coaching move.

He's the coach.  Either you allow him to evaluate the roster and run the program or you don't.

He's earned one more year, but if things don't go well, obviously his head is on the block.

Once you start micromanaging coaches from the Admin level, you've started a clock.

[Elonsmusk]

But he shouldn't have had to; he should have been able to remain in his previous role, but Shaka refused to go get a PG in the Portal.

Yet another odd take to just try to find any way possible to blame Shaka. Our best player has been Nigel James. The fact Chase is struggling with Nigel at PG is more of an indictment on Chase than Shaka for not briging in a PG through the portal.

[panda]

He's the coach.  Either you allow him to evaluate the roster and run the program or you don't.

He's earned one more year, but if things don't go well, obviously his head is on the block.

Once you start micromanaging coaches from the Admin level, you've started a clock.

The performance this season warrants intervention.

[Hards Alumni]

The performance this season warrants intervention.

The assumption is that the same thing happens this off season and next year.

Again, if they want to fire him for this year, then do it.  But he's the guy running the program.  Not the Board of Trustees, not Mike Broeker, not Kimo.

If you start stepping on the coaches responsibilities everyone in college basketball will take note.  And that's worse than another losing season with a stubborn coach.

[panda]

The assumption is that the same thing happens this off season and next year.

Again, if they want to fire him for this year, then do it.  But he's the guy running the program.  Not the Board of Trustees, not Mike Broeker, not Kimo.

If you start stepping on the coaches responsibilities everyone in college basketball will take note.  And that's worse than another losing season with a stubborn coach.

And my point is, he ran it into the ground. It needs intervention the same way wojo needed intervention following what was ultimately his last season.

I don't think potential coaches will look at a marquette admin negatively for "meddling" following this horrendous season.

[SOSW]

Yet another odd take to just try to find any way possible to blame Shaka. Our best player has been Nigel James. The fact Chase is struggling with Nigel at PG is more of an indictment on Chase than Shaka for not briging in a PG through the portal.

He's talking about last season.

[Pakuni]

The assumption is that the same thing happens this off season and next year.

Again, if they want to fire him for this year, then do it.  But he's the guy running the program.  Not the Board of Trustees, not Mike Broeker, not Kimo.

If you start stepping on the coaches responsibilities everyone in college basketball will take note.  And that's worse than another losing season with a stubborn coach.

Right.
If Mike Broeker has such little faith in Shaka's ability to turn around the ship that he needs to insert himself into the process, then he should just fire him and bring on a coach he does believe in.
The AD's role in the inner workings of the program - and by that I mean roster-building, recruiting decisions, lineups, player development - starts and ends with hiring a coach and providing the resources he needs.

[Pakuni]

"Have conversations with 90% of the roster".  More ridiculous hyperbole. 

We have one open spot.  If two more open up and Shaka 1) actually uses the portal and 2) does well in the portal, next year's team could be competitive. 

I would be more than happy to have the following guys back next season:

Parham
Owens
James
Stevens
Phillips
Clark
Pearson
Miletic
Walker
Egbuonu
Johnston

You're going to drop the two most experienced players - the leading scorer and only competent big, no less - from one of the worst P5 programs in the country, replace them with a few unheralded freshmen and maybe one portal guy ... and that makes this team competitive?
There's a line between optimism and Pollyannaism, and this seems to be on the wrong side of it.

[Elonsmusk]

And my point is, he ran it into the ground. It needs intervention the same way wojo needed intervention following what was ultimately his last season.

I don't think potential coaches will look at a marquette admin negatively for "meddling" following this horrendous season.

I have to ask, are you honestly just trolling?  Your takes are so incompetent, illogical, and idiotic - surely you're a troll.

[Elonsmusk]

He's talking about last season.

Didn't see his bolded referring to Kam/last season. Not sure how that is relevant to all the angst of this season and the idiots who think Shaka should be fired at the end of the season.

And with regard to last year, Shaka 100% thought Sean would be back at least for the back half of the season to offer some support at PG.  He was medically cleared to play, but mentally wasn't ready.

All that aside BillyHoyle/Chicos Bailbonds loved Tom Crean, hated Buzz Williams, loved Wojo, and seems to have a problem with Shaka.  He's got a really odd history of who he likes as coach at MU.

[Billy Hoyle]

Didn't see his bolded referring to Kam/last season. Not sure how that is relevant to all the angst of this season and the idiots who think Shaka should be fired at the end of the season.

And with regard to last year, Shaka 100% thought Sean would be back at least for the back half of the season to offer some support at PG.  He was medically cleared to play, but mentally wasn't ready.

All that aside BillyHoyle/Chicos Bailbonds loved Tom Crean, hated Buzz Williams, loved Wojo, and seems to have a problem with Shaka.  He's got a really odd history of who he likes as coach at MU.

If you say so.

Is Chicos in the room with you right now? 

[Hards Alumni]

And my point is, he ran it into the ground. It needs intervention the same way wojo needed intervention following what was ultimately his last season.

I don't think potential coaches will look at a marquette admin negatively for "meddling" following this horrendous season.

I understand your point and your frustration.  But this is a very black and white decision.  Either you trust the guy to run the program going forward or you don't.  Anything in between will cause any coach to give pause when considering the job.

[panda]

I understand your point and your frustration.  But this is a very black and white decision.  Either you trust the guy to run the program going forward or you don't.  Anything in between will cause any coach to give pause when considering the job.

Respectfully I disagree. Broeker needs to use his post season meeting with Shaka as an opportunity to say a season like this and the trajectory the program is on is completely unacceptable. "What changes will you make so this doesn't happen again" is a completely reasonable question and this is an ultimatum level performance of a season.

[panda]

I have to ask, are you honestly just trolling?  Your takes are so incompetent, illogical, and idiotic - surely you're a troll.

lol

[Viper]

Yet another odd take to just try to find any way possible to blame Shaka. Our best player has been Nigel James. The fact Chase is struggling with Nigel at PG is more of an indictment on Chase than Shaka for not briging in a PG through the portal.

yes, blame Shaka. He's the HC and creator of this dysfunctional roster, and the ensuing result's. It's also an easy relief of duty call to make IF...IF...Shaka is not willing to embrace all resources available this upcoming offseason. Hence, as Panda points out, why run Shaka back for a waisted 26/27 season?

[WellsstreetWanderer]

If you say so.

Is Chicos in the room with you right now? 

Incredible how Chico's still lives in people's minds