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Date/Time: Jan 4, 2026, 1:00pm
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tower912

Agreed. This kind of debate and criticism has been a scoop staple in good seasons.  It is nothing new.  The team is bad this season.  Everything negative is magnified. 
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Hards Alumni on Today at 02:59:17 PMIt's truly fascinating to watch a bunch of adults get their undies in a bundle about who "starts" on this team instead of who plays.

I disagree. Having 18 start with Ben on the bench (or RP) is F8CKING NUTS and criminal. Enough of this bullsh1t.
The portal is NOT closed.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: tower912 on Today at 12:39:02 PMBen Gold doesn't have a post game.  He has a euro-big 3 and drive game.

That's obvious. What isn't obvious to me is why, after 4 years of D-1 coaching, he doesn't have a single post move.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 03:38:00 PMI disagree. Having 18 start with Ben on the bench (or RP) is F8CKING NUTS and criminal. Enough of this bullsh1t.

It's not that Ben isn't starting. He'd be fine in his role if we had a good front court.

Royce is 50/50 whether he will show up or not, and the Under 8 timeout free throw participants are better than Caedin.
VIOLENCE!

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards Alumni on Today at 02:59:17 PMIt's truly fascinating to watch a bunch of adults get their undies in a bundle about who "starts" on this team instead of who plays.

Basically every other team in the world at all levels starts games with their best five (by position). Does Shaka know something that everyone else doesn't? Is there some advantage to be gained by opening games with your worst player on the court?
This isn't like a debate between starting two similarly skilled players, or starting a guy who excels in one facet of the game versus a guy who excels in another. It's about starting an incompetent player over one who's competent. It just makes no sense.

tower912

Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 03:45:37 PMThat's obvious. What isn't obvious to me is why, after 4 years of D-1 coaching, he doesn't have a single post move.
Hamilton has really good footwork in the post.  Isn't making anything, but has the post moves.  Nobody in the NBA runs low post offense.  The international game even less.  Low post offense is Sears.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

Markusquette

If Shaka strolled 5 Hamiltons on to the court at tip-off, I am sure tower would be there to cheer them all on

NickelDimer

Quote from: Hards Alumni on Today at 02:59:17 PMIt's truly fascinating to watch a bunch of adults get their undies in a bundle about who "starts" on this team instead of who plays.
I mean I get that on one hand, but on the other hand there's something to be said about what message this sends to the team.
No Finish Line

Jay Bee

Quote from: Markusquette on Today at 03:53:17 PMIf Shaka strolled 5 Hamiltons on to the court at tip-off, I am sure tower would be there to cheer them all on

jfk I think you're right. Insanity.
The portal is NOT closed.

tower912

Quote from: Markusquette on Today at 03:53:17 PMIf Shaka strolled 5 Hamiltons on to the court at tip-off, I am sure tower would be there to cheer them all on
If the player is wearing a MU uniform, I cheer for them.  Why on earth would I not.  I want Hamilton to succeed.  He hasn't, but it is not in me to celebrate his failure.  What kind of useless POS celebrates MU's failure?
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Also in honor of Pope Leo,  I have no enemies.  I have brothers and sisters I sometimes disagree with.

jesmu84

Quote from: tower912 on Today at 03:08:06 PMAgreed. This kind of debate and criticism has been a scoop staple in good seasons.  It is nothing new.  The team is bad this season.  Everything negative is magnified. 

Like tweets?

Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

Pakuni

Quote from: tower912 on Today at 03:51:26 PMHamilton has really good footwork in the post.  Isn't making anything, but has the post moves.  Nobody in the NBA runs low post offense.  The international game even less.  Low post offense is Sears.

*Cough cough*

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/47243702/nba-2025-2026-season-postups-trends-kristaps-porzingis-victor-wembanyama

Zog from Margo

Quote from: tower912 on Today at 03:51:26 PMHamilton has really good footwork in the post.  Isn't making anything, but has the post moves.  Nobody in the NBA runs low post offense.  The international game even less.  Low post offense is Sears.

So it's best to have a team of players incapable of taking advantage of mismatches. Making Gold incapable of exploiting a size advantage doesn't seem like smart basketball to me. Glad you like it.

MUDPT

By my very rudimentary calculations, Marquette is 8-6 in winning the tip this year giving them a very small increase chance in winning.

https://kenpom.com/blog/the-value-of-ben-gillery/

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