The Altercation

[JakeBarnes]

Would rather not share on a public forum. I'll send via DM.

Id be interested as well if youre in the sharing mood

[GoFastAndWin]

Lol. Good grief, calm down. It is not that serious. This boils down to a really good coach doubling and tripling down on poor roster management over multiple seasons and now we're here. When faced with a similar situation in 2021 he bolted to Marquette rather than change things up at Texas. So it would lend that if told to change things up here, he will bolt again.

I think TJO would crush it at Marquette and it wasn't a definitive "no" from college basketball's main insider. Probably won't happen, but it's a message board so who cares what hypotheticals we throw out there. I'd be good with Mark Byington or Josh Schertz too!

There would be a Mutiny on the Bounty and a typhoon in Laramie before it's a Byington Spring.

[brewcity77]

The actual story is pretty much nothing. In practice, Stevens inadvertantly directed a ball that bounced off Haynes' head. Haynes thought it was intentional and overreacted, yelling and pointing his finger into Stevens' chest.

It wasn't major, but because it involved contact between player & coach, an investigation was done. The investigation confirmed that it wasn't a big deal, minor suspension for Haynes because of the contact.

It wouldn't have been anything if the social media director didn't mistake White Sox Bill for an actual non-troll account. But changing his handle (but not username) was enough to fool the inexperienced social media guy, he did the inaccurate tweet, made it worse by editing it, and Shaka made it worse by repeating inaccurate which convinced people something happened. And something did, but if not for a stupid quote tweet and poor wording, no one would've ever paid this any mind.

Anyone hearing that it was more serious assault, that's bad information and not true. Anyone hearing this had anything to do with Zaide and his departure, that's bad information and untrue. It was just the kind of temper flaring that happens in bad seasons getting blown out of proportion because the social media side mishandled it.

[withoutbias]

I heard some insight on the Haynes matter. Feel free to reach out.

The hero we don't deserve but desperately need.

You claim you "don't want to share your info on a public forum" but post this.

What would we do without your reciting Discord information?

[rocky_warrior]

The actual story is pretty much nothing.

Sounds like a long complicated story to hide the truth. 

So let me get this straight... Haynes and Stevens got into it.  Completely separately Zaide left the team, with an altercation with Hatt that MU called "inaccurate".  Meanwhile Stevens is still starting and Haynes hasn't been seen...for routine reasons.

Y'all can't be this dense right?

Haynes thought it was intentional and overreacted, yelling and pointing his finger into Stevens' chest.

It wasn't major, but because it involved contact between player & coach, an investigation was done. The investigation confirmed that it wasn't a big deal, minor suspension for Haynes because of the contact.

So Stevens took offense and reported Haynes to MU HR 

[CountryRoads]

Did MU put out a statement that Haynes was going to miss two games or were they just hoping that no one would notice? It seems the only reason it was addressed is because people online picked up on it last game and asked Steele to ask about it. Would be nice to know if an assistant coach is suspended, but maybe that's asking way too much.

[rocky_warrior]

Would be nice to know if an assistant coach is suspended, but maybe that's asking way too much.

If you ask Brew, MU PR doesn't even understand that kids would want hotdogs at Marquette preseason scrimmages.

He's not that wrong.

[GoldenWarrior11]

My biggest worry for the remainder of the season (other than consistently losing) is what that losing does to the players and coaches within the program.  We have already had a departure from a player; and now we have had a coach miss time because frustrations clearly boiled over at a practice. 

The worst part of our season hasn't happened yet.