The Altercation

[brewcity77]

I'd guess the majority of Marquette fans don't even know Zaide is leaving yet much less any of the Twitter stuff.

Not sure about that. The article on the social media gaffe from Anonymous Eagle is their most viewed article since Megan Duffy left for Va Tech. Seems like Marquette fans beyond the Scoop/Twitter spheres are paying attention.

[TallTitan34]

Not sure about that. The article on the social media gaffe from Anonymous Eagle is their most viewed article since Megan Duffy left for Va Tech. Seems like Marquette fans beyond the Scoop/Twitter spheres are paying attention.

I'm also guessing that most Marquette fans don't even know what Anonymous Eagle is.

[MU82]

Three of my MU buddies and I have a text chain going during almost every game. They are Marquette hoops fans with above-average interest in the team - for example, they traveled tp the 2024 NCAAT games in Indy, they have met me for road games in Cinci and DC, etc. - but they aren't fanatical enough to spend time with lunatics like us on sites like this.

I get most of my Marquette news from Scoop, and my friends get most of their Marquette news from me (after I've read it on Scoop and relay it to them).

Hours after Lowery being gone was announced, they hadn't heard about it until I told them. Same with my son, who also is a big MU hoops fan but not a Scoopy lunatic like us here.

And I highly doubt any of them, even now, has any idea whether MU handled its tweets and press releases well, poorly or otherwise. Nor would they care.

It seems Marquette's PR people could have handled the situation better. But I think some folks are seriously overestimating how much the vast majority of MU fans care about such minutiae ... or even know about it.

[TallTitan34]

You guys are acting like Michael Scott in the watermark episode making a bigger deal out of it than it really is.

[brewcity77]

I'm also guessing that most Marquette fans don't even know what Anonymous Eagle is.

6,000 plus page views as of yesterday afternoon would indicate plenty of them do.

[wadesworld]

Still waiting for Norlander and Parrish's emergency podcast on this travesty.  They should be fired for waiting this long.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that the vast majority of sports podcasts that cover college basketball, the vast majority of college basketball game broadcasts, halftime shows, pregame shows, etc. etc. etc., essentially anywhere that anyone would hear college basketball news, will not even mention Zaide Lowery leaving Marquette's program at all, let alone Marquette basketball Tweeting about a potential altercation.  And the VERY few that do mention either of those things, I would bet they will not do it on more than one episode/game, etc.

I can't believe people are this worked up about a nearly completely meaningless Tweet.

[jfp61]

I can't believe people are this worked up about a nearly completely meaningless Tweet.

You don't have to be worked up about it. It is just emblematic of the incompetence running deep.

[Markusquette]

Another blemish on the most pathetic season in decades

[wadesworld]

You don't have to be worked up about it. It is just emblematic of the incompetence running deep.

And yet people think TJ Otzelberger would come running if we give him a ring.

The only incompetence that matters is the roster that was put together this year.  Hot dogs at a scrimmage, Tweets, lack of free autographs, all the other trivial stuff that people love to cry about are completely meaningless.

Ticket price increases are meaningful, but that's the reality of college athletics and nowhere near unique to Marquette University, so not sure that that's "incompetence running deep."

[TallTitan34]

6,000 plus page views as of yesterday afternoon would indicate plenty of them do.

So I am right in assuming the majority of Marquette fans don't know what Anonymous Eagle is.

[Jay Bee]

Still waiting for Norlander and Parrish's emergency podcast on this travesty.  They should be fired for waiting this long.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that the vast majority of sports podcasts that cover college basketball, the vast majority of college basketball game broadcasts, halftime shows, pregame shows, etc. etc. etc., essentially anywhere that anyone would hear college basketball news, will not even mention Zaide Lowery leaving Marquette's program at all, let alone Marquette basketball Tweeting about a potential altercation.  And the VERY few that do mention either of those things, I would bet they will not do it on more than one episode/game, etc.

I can't believe people are this worked up about a nearly completely meaningless Tweet.

I'm not worked up about it, but consider it dumb & dangerous, as well as stupid and insane.

That said, I have some friends who are somewhat-fans.. they'll check out the team when convenient. Last night, I get a text from a buddy with a link to some of the X tweets in a friend-group text.. the guy thought it was all real, and was a bit irked by it.

Amazing how gullible people are. Scary. I will say though, the "CTC" tweet breaking the news of his "BIL"'s employment was awesome.

[jfp61]

And yet people think TJ Otzelberger would come running if we give him a ring.

The only incompetence that matters is the roster that was put together this year.  Hot dogs at a scrimmage, Tweets, lack of free autographs, all the other trivial stuff that people love to cry about are completely meaningless.

Ticket price increases are meaningful, but that's the reality of college athletics and nowhere near unique to Marquette University, so not sure that that's "incompetence running deep."

No one thinks TJ would come. Cyclones have real money. The best hire for a marquette will always be a mid major coach on the rise. Need someone with hunger.

The staff is currently too bloated, too many guys that don't do anything/ have stopped telling shaka no. The roster is broken and has maybe 2 players that should be on it.
Having staff the replys to tweets from whitesoxbill's burner is not stable and competent behavior.

The increase in ticket prices are a direct result of bloated spending in other avenues.
I get that Broeker decieded he had to increase prices, but their talent evaluation in all aspects is clearly questionable at best.  Well adjusted companies increase prices when they have something new and improved to offer, not significantly worse.

All of this just shows... that we lack some competence.

[K1 Lover]

Still waiting for Norlander and Parrish's emergency podcast on this travesty.  They should be fired for waiting this long.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that the vast majority of sports podcasts that cover college basketball, the vast majority of college basketball game broadcasts, halftime shows, pregame shows, etc. etc. etc., essentially anywhere that anyone would hear college basketball news, will not even mention Zaide Lowery leaving Marquette's program at all, let alone Marquette basketball Tweeting about a potential altercation.  And the VERY few that do mention either of those things, I would bet they will not do it on more than one episode/game, etc.

I can't believe people are this worked up about a nearly completely meaningless Tweet.

I think it has more to do with relevancy than anything. Nobody will talk about it because no one cares about MU basketball right now, same way an identical event could happen at DePaul and we'd never hear of it. But if it had happened somewhere like Purdue instead, then yes the media heads would be discussing it, because the stakes are higher and so is the interest from a national audience.

I agree the Zaide situation is trivial in the overall CBB picture and not worth the public attention. But context matters. The reason they're not talking about the departure/altercation isn't because an event like that is insignificant on its own, it's because Marquette basketball is currently insignificant.

[Billy Hoyle]

No one thinks TJ would come. Cyclones have real money.

Do they, though?

https://iowastatedaily.com/319285/sports/iowa-state-ceases-hilton-coliseum-renovations-after-facing-a-147-million-deficit/

Iowa State University's athletic department has halted the renovation of the Hilton Coliseum and the construction of a new wrestling facility, implementing budget cuts in response to a projected $147 million budget deficit through 2031.

"These are challenging times, but the university remains confident and optimistic that through a coordinated effort, a solution to address the currently projected budget shortfall will be implemented and Cyclones Athletics will continue to thrive," Iowa State University said in a statement to the Daily.

The presented $147 million deficit stemmed from the Big 12's realignment of 10 to 16 teams, the House v. NCAA settlement over revenue sharing with student-athletes and the College Football Playoff revenue distribution model.

The budget deficit stemming from different sources in the landscape of college athletics has created a projected $24 million shortfall for the fiscal year 2026.

https://www.thegazette.com/article/hawkeye-athletics-sets-another-revenue-record-while-isu-uni-struggle/?fbclid=IwdGRjcAOBPV1jbGNrA4E8OmV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHoQNrS14Ei1ayAbH0cV-vfN75vpuG-l5cXNQs4NoBlNYOGJMtnd4sS8XKOlK_aem_rBERzs6oatOyrdWGpJpvyQ

Iowa State Athletics similarly reported a $2.8 million revenue drop from 2024's $116.9 million to $114.1 million in 2025 — which was $133,174 below expectations for the year.

Over the summer, in looking ahead to the current 2026 budget year, Iowa State flagged "transformational changes in college athletics that will result in $30 million in recurring annual financial repercussions to the athletics department beginning this year."

[Pakuni]

I think it has more to do with relevancy than anything. Nobody will talk about it because no one cares about MU basketball right now, same way an identical event could happen at DePaul and we'd never hear of it. But if it had happened somewhere like Purdue instead, then yes the media heads would be discussing it, because the stakes are higher and so is the interest from a national audience.

I agree the Zaide situation is trivial in the overall CBB picture and not worth the public attention. But context matters. The reason they're not talking about the departure/altercation isn't because an event like that is insignificant on its own, it's because Marquette basketball is currently insignificant.

Nah. A player getting kicked out of a P5 school for physically fighting a coach is going to make the news, regardless of the team's current record.
The reason it's not making the news is because it almost certainly didn't happen.

I suspect Goodman, Norlander, Katz, Parrish, etc., likely all saw the tweet (and likely follow MU basketball). And they likely did the responsible thing by checking into it, finding out what happened and moved along.
And they moved along because they aren't in the business of hyperventilating over poorly worded tweets (unlike certain Marquette basketball blog writers).

[panda]

Nah. A player getting kicked out of a P5 school for physically fighting a coach is going to make the news, regardless of the team's current record.
The reason it's not making the news is because it almost certainly didn't happen.

I suspect Goodman, Norlander, Katz, Parrish, etc., likely all saw the tweet (and likely follow MU basketball). And they likely did the responsible thing by checking into it, finding out what happened and moved along.
And they moved along because they aren't in the business of hyperventilating over poorly worded tweets (unlike certain Marquette basketball blog writers).

So they all did their due diligence but the official Marquette account decided a burner account deserved a response ??

[Pakuni]

So they all did their due diligence but the official Marquette account decided a burner account deserved a response ??

Read it. Learn it. Live it.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur

[panda]

Read it. Learn it. Live it.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur

My point from the beginning is Marquette acted foolishly responding to a burner account.

Which you clearly agree with.

[K1 Lover]

Nah. A player getting kicked out of a P5 school for physically fighting a coach is going to make the news, regardless of the team's current record.
The reason it's not making the news is because it almost certainly didn't happen.

I suspect Goodman, Norlander, Katz, Parrish, etc., likely all saw the tweet (and likely follow MU basketball). And they likely did the responsible thing by checking into it, finding out what happened and moved along.
And they moved along because they aren't in the business of hyperventilating over poorly worded tweets (unlike certain Marquette basketball blog writers).

I agree with this too. To be clear, I'm not convinced a physical altercation transpired either. Perhaps I could've been more specific, but my previous post was written in relation to players departing due to a conflict with the coach/program in general, not something as far or egregious as a physical fight.

If people are up in arms because they think the media should talk about a fight that never happened, then yeah that's silly.

[jesmu84]

If folks are still upset about the tweet situation, it's a reflection of underlying loathing for the coaching staff and MU admin.

[willie warrior]

Do they, though?

https://iowastatedaily.com/319285/sports/iowa-state-ceases-hilton-coliseum-renovations-after-facing-a-147-million-deficit/

Iowa State University's athletic department has halted the renovation of the Hilton Coliseum and the construction of a new wrestling facility, implementing budget cuts in response to a projected $147 million budget deficit through 2031.

"These are challenging times, but the university remains confident and optimistic that through a coordinated effort, a solution to address the currently projected budget shortfall will be implemented and Cyclones Athletics will continue to thrive," Iowa State University said in a statement to the Daily.

The presented $147 million deficit stemmed from the Big 12's realignment of 10 to 16 teams, the House v. NCAA settlement over revenue sharing with student-athletes and the College Football Playoff revenue distribution model.

The budget deficit stemming from different sources in the landscape of college athletics has created a projected $24 million shortfall for the fiscal year 2026.

https://www.thegazette.com/article/hawkeye-athletics-sets-another-revenue-record-while-isu-uni-struggle/?fbclid=IwdGRjcAOBPV1jbGNrA4E8OmV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHoQNrS14Ei1ayAbH0cV-vfN75vpuG-l5cXNQs4NoBlNYOGJMtnd4sS8XKOlK_aem_rBERzs6oatOyrdWGpJpvyQ

Iowa State Athletics similarly reported a $2.8 million revenue drop from 2024's $116.9 million to $114.1 million in 2025 — which was $133,174 below expectations for the year.

Over the summer, in looking ahead to the current 2026 budget year, Iowa State flagged "transformational changes in college athletics that will result in $30 million in recurring annual financial repercussions to the athletics department beginning this year."

Do they, though?

https://iowastatedaily.com/319285/sports/iowa-state-ceases-hilton-coliseum-renovations-after-facing-a-147-million-deficit/

Iowa State University's athletic department has halted the renovation of the Hilton Coliseum and the construction of a new wrestling facility, implementing budget cuts in response to a projected $147 million budget deficit through 2031.

"These are challenging times, but the university remains confident and optimistic that through a coordinated effort, a solution to address the currently projected budget shortfall will be implemented and Cyclones Athletics will continue to thrive," Iowa State University said in a statement to the Daily.

The presented $147 million deficit stemmed from the Big 12's realignment of 10 to 16 teams, the House v. NCAA settlement over revenue sharing with student-athletes and the College Football Playoff revenue distribution model.

The budget deficit stemming from different sources in the landscape of college athletics has created a projected $24 million shortfall for the fiscal year 2026.

https://www.thegazette.com/article/hawkeye-athletics-sets-another-revenue-record-while-isu-uni-struggle/?fbclid=IwdGRjcAOBPV1jbGNrA4E8OmV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHoQNrS14Ei1ayAbH0cV-vfN75vpuG-l5cXNQs4NoBlNYOGJMtnd4sS8XKOlK_aem_rBERzs6oatOyrdWGpJpvyQ

Iowa State Athletics similarly reported a $2.8 million revenue drop from 2024's $116.9 million to $114.1 million in 2025 — which was $133,174 below expectations for the year.

Over the summer, in looking ahead to the current 2026 budget year, Iowa State flagged "transformational changes in college athletics that will result in $30 million in recurring annual financial repercussions to the athletics department beginning this year."

Ok. Get out the checkbook for TJO.He will come running.

[MU82]

No one thinks TJ would come.

No one? I mean, Hards literally said this:

I see you're picking up what I'm putting down.

And JTJ3 responded:

I'm not that confident, but he would definitely pick up our call.  I have no doubts about that.

And several Scoopers have mentioned TJO as a possibility in other threads the last month or two.