The Altercation

[brewcity77]

Wrong.  You're assuming it would have "blown over".  You're assuming it wouldn't have spread further, yet you had dumbasses here repeating it as fact.  People here have quoted that account multiple times thinking it was an actual source because they don't take the time to look into it. 

If you don't think that could have spread further or continued to impact Zaide adversely with it being ignored I don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong.

Unfortunately, this is the world we live in now.  Criticizing the execution is fair.  Ignoring wouldn't have been the right move.

WSB throws stuff like this at the wall all the time and nothing comes of it. I know it would've blown over because time and time again it's blown over, even when it was mentioned on the hallowed halls of Scoop. This was a nothing burger that Marquette turned into a s**t sandwich.

[Markusquette]

Oh, well I totally agree it's trivial and unimportant!

Well, Zaide leaving is the important part.  But even if he needed to go, the question of how/why now is interesting.

So it's neither trivial nor unimportant. We've amassed 20+ pages on this issue alone and the same people vehemently defending the program's supposedly competent PR team are the ones saying "who cares" and it will blow over in 24 hours, etc.

[Jay Bee]

Cannot wait for a lawsuit that allows Zaide to play for someone still this season. #PortalIsNotClosed

[rocky_warrior]

So it's neither trivial nor unimportant. We've amassed 20+ pages on this issue alone and the same people vehemently defending the program's supposedly competent PR team are the ones saying "who cares" and it will blow over in 24 hours, etc.

Hah, pages on scoop aren't an indication of importance.  We have about 500 pages on a post someone would have preferred to delete (NM).

Frankly, most things discussed here are unimportant, but it's good for business 

[Markusquette]

Hah, pages on scoop aren't an indication of importance.  We have about 500 pages on a post someone would have preferred to delete (NM).

Frankly, most things discussed here are unimportant, but it's good for business 

Well of course, but we're a very small community and relatively speaking it's important. The fact is that a player is gone from the program, possibly dismissed for "the" altercation and it's sadly the most interesting thing to happen this season other than being a terrible team. Opens the door for a possible transfer at the very least. Far from trivial in terms of MUBB chatter.

[rocky_warrior]

Cannot wait for a lawsuit that allows Zaide to play for someone still this season. #PortalIsNotClosed

I would expect the lawsuit to demand his NIL $ for Jan-Mar.  But all sorts of crazy in the world.

[MU82]

Neither question would be/will be asked that way.

There obviously is no way to know what question would have been asked had Marquette not responded to the twit at all. But I'd be curious to hear your prediction of what question(s) Ben will ask tomorrow regarding the Lowery situation.

[NCMUFan]

More dramatics on the current season drama.

[NCMUFan]

We already struck "V" from RGV.  Now maybe we also strike the "R".

[Pakuni]

There obviously is no way to know what question would have been asked had Marquette not responded to the twit at all. But I'd be curious to hear your prediction of what question(s) Ben will ask tomorrow regarding the Lowery situation.

I'd guess something like "Can you discuss the reasons for Zaide's departure and reports that there may have been an altercation etween him and a member of the coaching staff?"

I don't think Ben is going to go Perry Mason on Shaka because of a tweet.
"Isn't it true, Mr. Smart, that there was a fight between Mr. Lowery and a member of your entourage? Why, if it did not occur, did an official Marquette basketball social media account make reference to an 'altercation'?"

[MU82]

I'd guess something like "Can you discuss the reasons for Zaide's departure and reports that there may have been an altercation etween him and a member of the coaching staff?"

I don't think Ben is going to go Perry Mason on Shaka because of a tweet.
"Isn't it true, Mr. Smart, that there was a fight between Mr. Lowery and a member of your entourage? Why, if it did not occur, did an official Marquette basketball social media account make reference to an 'altercation'?"

Agree on all of the above.

I actually might be looking forward to the postgame presser more than I am to watching the game. That, in itself, is another thing that sucks about this season!

[Markusquette]

Shaka did say he wasn't leaving, so maybe he wasn't lying if he was dismissed instead 

[wadesworld]

WSB throws stuff like this at the wall all the time and nothing comes of it. I know it would've blown over because time and time again it's blown over, even when it was mentioned on the hallowed halls of Scoop. This was a nothing burger that Marquette turned into a s**t sandwich.

It's a nothingburger that will continue to be a nothingburger.

National media were all over stories of Todd Golden sending dick pics and stalking Florida University students.  That lasted like 3 days, Florida said there's nothing to see here, and Todd Golden coached a team to a national title a couple of months later.

Auburn had to divert their flight because of a fist fight between players mid air.  The story was talked about on one episode of everyone's podcast and then nobody cared.

But I'm sure Marquette's response on Twitter to "an altercation" is going to...keep some Big East Twitter account engaged for all of like 12 more hours?  THE HORROR!

People are so dramatic.  Sports stories move fast.  This one isn't even a blip on the radar.

[wadesworld]

Cannot wait for a lawsuit that allows Zaide to play for someone still this season. #PortalIsNotClosed

Oh no.  Not an athlete being ruled eligible that wouldn't have in the past!  The NCAA would never!

[mileskishnish72]

Shaka should have sent Zaide and Cody to "time out" so they could work out their differences and foster their relationship.

But I forgot, Shaka doesn't use time-outs.

[MuggsyB]

Shaka should have sent Zaide and Cody to "time out" so they could work out their differences and foster their relationship.

But I forgot, Shaka doesn't use time-outs.

 

[21Jumpstreet]

It's a nothingburger that will continue to be a nothingburger.

National media were all over stories of Todd Golden sending dick pics and stalking Florida University students.  That lasted like 3 days, Florida said there's nothing to see here, and Todd Golden coached a team to a national title a couple of months later.

Auburn had to divert their flight because of a fist fight between players mid air.  The story was talked about on one episode of everyone's podcast and then nobody cared.

But I'm sure Marquette's response on Twitter to "an altercation" is going to...keep some Big East Twitter account engaged for all of like 12 more hours?  THE HORROR!

People are so dramatic.  Sports stories move fast.  This one isn't even a blip on the radar.

I think this is probably true, but MU and Shaka have positioned themselves as a very unique (and failing) brand and model of program development. They are in the news all the time because of it. So, this has the potential to be talked about a bit more and harm Shaka and MU more than a random guy leaving a random team mid year.

And, is WSB no longer a troll, seems to have hit on something rather specific here. Perhaps he knows more than meets the eye...sort of like the Transformers.

Pretty disappointed in Shaka, MU, and Zaide, but I give Zaide more leeway and grace than the other two. I liked Zaide, being an athlete is tough, losing is tough, not playing is tough. He gave his all for 2+ years. I fear this is the first domino...as it were.