The Altercation

[panda]

Excellent synopsis below. Keep this for the time capsule

https://x.com/noescalators/status/2005480011596509340?s=46

[wadesworld]

Excellent synopsis below. Keep this for the time capsule

https://x.com/noescalators/status/2005480011596509340?s=46

If you don't know how to read, MUBB's Tweet does make it sound like a fight happened.

[panda]

If you don't know how to read, MUBB's Tweet does make it sound like a fight happened.

Now Shaka will have to answer questions about what actually happened rather than saying goodbye and good luck to zaide.

Just another low during an all time pathetic season.

[wadesworld]

Now Shaka will have to answer questions about what actually happened rather than saying goodbye and good luck to zaide.

Just another low during an all time pathetic season.

I'm certain the media would've never asked him about Zaide leaving in the middle of the season if not for MUBB's Tweet.

Good thing we've established Shaka is a liar to the media already, so he can just do that some more.

[panda]

I'm certain the media would've never asked him about Zaide leaving in the middle of the season if not for MUBB's Tweet.

Good thing we've established Shaka is a liar to the media already, so he can just do that some more.

The line of questioning will be much different now than if Marquette account never responded.

Their acknowledgment gives validity to the fact something along those lines occurred.

[wadesworld]

The line of questioning will be much different now than if Marquette account never responded.

Their acknowledgment gives validity to the fact something along those lines occurred.

How?

[nyg]

MU pr department could have and maybe should have wrote "There was no physical altercation", or if they wanted to get specific, "It was a verbal altercation". That is of course if there was no physical contact.

Maybe if Lowery has a social media account, he can help out Shaka the coach that recruited and developed him, by writing something denying the alleged fight. 

Let's see if the reporter Ben Steele earns his pay as a beat reporter and can obtain the true, actual facts about what occurred.  I am sure he has contacts/sources and there were probably numerous witnesses who can verify if such an incident took place.  But, sometimes reporters will not print it in order to save face with the team they cover, fear of losing personal contacts with the team.

[Pakuni]

The line of questioning will be much different now than if Marquette account never responded.

Their acknowledgment gives validity to the fact something along those lines occurred.

There wasn't an acknowledgement. There was a denial. Some of you are intentionally misreading the post - which certainly could have been better worded - so you can have faux outrage over the situation.

[MU82]

I haven't read all the twits about this. Does any one of them claim that a physical altercation happened?

When I first saw the word "altercation," I actually assumed it was verbal, because physical altercations between athletes and coaches are pretty damn rare these days.

I mean, just a few days ago, Steve Kerr and Draymond Green definitely had an altercation. And it definitely wasn't physical. That kind of thing happens fairly often.

[Viper]

I'm with Zaide. Drop gloves on Cody Hatt? Dude definitely has a punchable face. Our next game, tv close-ups of the bench just got interesting. (If it happened, of course 😉)

[SOSW]

There wasn't an acknowledgement. There was a denial. Some of you are intentionally misreading the post - which certainly could have been better worded - so you can have faux outrage over the situation.

Yes. They certainly could have worded it better.

Or better yet, not said anything at all! No one would have cared. 

This was all completely preventable by Mubb. Some of you just don't seem to realize that.

[Jay Bee]

There wasn't an acknowledgement. There was a denial. Some of you are intentionally misreading the post - which certainly could have been better worded - so you can have faux outrage over the situation.

Eh, I read it and see #muMbb acknowledging an "altercation", don't you? It's problematic, dumb and dangerous. #lawsuitsOnDeck?

May help Zaide get granted immediate eligibility.

[brewcity77]

So many own goals here. First and foremost, shouldn't Marquette have learned not to respond to troll accounts after the Danielle Josetti disaster trying to argue against the Providence burner "Tyler can't read" jokes?

But in this case, it's not just that they responded to the troll, but instead of deleting and moving on, gave a non-confirmation confirmation by using the wording "the altercation" which turns it from a rumor into something that can be read to have happened.

Presumably, the correction was done by one of the adults in the room after realizing the initial response was poor, and if that's the case speaks really poorly of the adults in the room. This is comms 101 where who you respond to and words you choose to respond matter.

And of course, this will all be more heavily scrutinized in a year where there aren't any wins to discuss. Just PR idiocy all around.

[panda]

I'm certain the media would've never asked him about Zaide leaving in the middle of the season if not for MUBB's Tweet.

Good thing we've established Shaka is a liar to the media already, so he can just do that some more.

The Marquette account took away all of shaka's leverage.

Rather than allowing him to control the narrative, now reporters have a responsibility to ask about something the official Marquette basketball account shared, which may or may not be true. 

*mind you all of this stems from an official account responding to a gentleman/twitter egg named white Sox bill

[SOSW]

The fact that they STILL haven't deleted the Tweet shows how completely incompetent they are.

[ATL MU Warrior]

The fact that they STILL haven't deleted the Tweet shows how completely incompetent they are.

Something tells me that if they did delete it, you'd come up with some other reason to say they were incompetent for doing so. 

[connie]

I care -zero- if some MU intern makes a middling mistake in responding to a stupid twitter post, whether it is true or not--just like the "Tyler can't read" thing I completely forgot about 5 minutes after it was posted. I forgot about it because it matters -zero- to anyone that is not trying to build a grievance. 

I never like to see any player removed from the team I care for because it is a sign that something is wrong.  Well, we knew that something was very wrong already.  My greatest fear was that our coach wasn't willing to do what needs to be done to fix things.  This gets rid of a project that failed, opening the door to get rid of other longshot projects that failed, and has me feeling better about our return to relevance.

As for Zaide, I wish you well, but will promptly forget about your limited contributions to the team as I look forward to a portal addition that will make a difference.

[mileskishnish72]

There is indeed a difference between saying that the inaccuracy related to "an altercation" versus saying "the altercation." BFD.

It's a first step. I hope there are more.

[SOSW]

Something tells me that if they did delete it, you'd come up with some other reason to say they were incompetent for doing so. 

Nope. It would be the smart thing to do. Then learn from the mistake and don't do it again.

[Warrior of Law]

Someone forgot the first rule of The Fight Club.

[MUeng]

I will miss Zaide's ability to dunk in games, something many on this team lack already.

[Jay Bee]

matzos burger needs to tweet some sh1t to MU now

[rocky_warrior]

I guess we'll see if anyone has a black eye tomorrow...

[wadesworld]

Something tells me that if they did delete it, you'd come up with some other reason to say they were incompetent for doing so. 

Haha exactly.  People just want to cry.  That's the only reason there is to complain about this.

Josetti responding to a troll saying Kolek couldn't read was such a black eye on the program, the university, and the marketing department that literally nobody cares about it, other than when the team is losing and we can't cry enough about how bad the team is so we have to pretend we're still mad about something that nobody outside of Scoop even remembers happened.

[wadesworld]

The Marquette account took away all of shaka's leverage.

Rather than allowing him to control the narrative, now reporters have a responsibility to ask about something the official Marquette basketball account shared, which may or may not be true. 

*mind you all of this stems from an official account responding to a gentleman/twitter egg named white Sox bill

What "leverage?"  What "narrative" can Shaka now not use because MUBB said there wasn't an altercation?

I can't believe people actually think the "media" would see that a guy who began the year as a starter for Marquette was released from the team midseason, and think that no questions would've been brought up to Shaka if Marquette's basketball Twitter account hadn't denied a rumor that had already been brought up outside of Twitter.