A question for the Scoop elders

[MuggsyB]

Is this the worst MU team in our history?  I've heard nightmares about Dukiet. 

[Skatastrophy]

We're not going to have many SotG this year

[PointWarrior]

Pack up the SotG board for next year, may not be needed this year. 

We're not going to have many SotG this year

[MU1in77]

At MU in the 70's and a STH for most of the time since then and I'm struggling to remember a worse team. BUT - I still feel better about MU basketball now then I did during the Dukiet years

[GoldenWarrior11]

It's time for a reboot. Appreciative for last four years, but this season is undoubtedly negligence.

[Warrior of Law]

Yes. I go back to 1979. They are awful and historically so.

[NCMUFan]

Pretty amazing since they won the National Championship during the 1976-1977 season.

[MuggsyB]

Yes. I go back to 1979. They are awful and historically so.

Wow, just wow.  How tragic. 

[BCHoopster]

79 team had Bernard Toone and made the tourney, that team would kill this team

[MuggsyB]

79 team had Bernard Toone and made the tourney, that team would kill this team

I don't think anyone said they wouldn't.

[dgies9156]

I go back to 1966. The only time I remember they were this bad was when jim Chones left us in 1972 and we fell apart against Detroit, 70-49.

But that was one game and this is a season.

Our talent may not be up to snuff, but we are not THIS bad. Something is really wrong and the problem is at the core of the team! Everything isn't working, coaching, talent, schemes, technique.

[Warrior of Law]

I'm not suggesting 1979 was bad, that's as far as I go back. Even the worst MU teams of all-time had some talent. This is the worst MU team in my lifetime. Any of the below average teams of the 80-90s would be better.

[MuggsyB]

I go back to 1966. The only time I remember they were this bad was when jim Chones left us in 1972 and we fell apart against Detroit, 70-49.

But that was one game and this is a season.

Our talent may not be up to snuff, but we are not THIS bad. Something is really wrong and the problem is at the core of the team! Everything isn't working, coaching, talent, schemes, technique.

Ty, brother Dgies.  I didn't even fathom the possibility of being this bad.  Will we win another game?  Shouldn't we just play the young guys from now on to see what we have moving forward?

[Newsdreams]

Is this the worst MU team in our history?  I've heard nightmares about Dukiet. 

How old are you? You sound 80+

[GBPhoenix1993]

I can remember the Majerus years better than the Dukiet years. During the Majerus years I don't believe Marquette made the NCAA tournament even once. That said, I still would take any Majerus team over this one.

I think the Dukiet teams were pretty close to as bad as this team, but not being in the Big East at that time they certainly didn't play as tough of a schedule as this year's team does.

As has been said by others, it felt like at least Tony Smith and Trevor Powell were worth watching and Mark Anglavar was decent as well. I'll be fair and say I don't remember the Dukiet years as well as I went to UW-Green Bay 1987-1989 and didn't catch as many MU games during that period as I did in the years before that.

[79Warrior]

I go back to 1966. The only time I remember they were this bad was when jim Chones left us in 1972 and we fell apart against Detroit, 70-49.

But that was one game and this is a season.

Our talent may not be up to snuff, but we are not THIS bad. Something is really wrong and the problem is at the core of the team! Everything isn't working, coaching, talent, schemes, technique.

What? What was our recorded in 1972?

[BLWarrior91]

The 1987-88 team was brutal.  That was then worst team since Al came to MU.  This year's team has a shot to take that title.  Especially since we have made four straight NCAA tournaments.

[WarriorFan]

87-88 and 88-89 teams were horrendous.  They would lose to 5 random guys at the rec center.  More than once I was one of the 5 random guys.  This team is MUCH better than those days.

[willie warrior]

Is this the worst MU team in our history?  I've heard nightmares about Dukiet. 

This is Dukiet part 2. It is a Dukiet Do Over. Only thing different is that the talent .right now is allegedly better.
I used to send letters to the AD back then, and one day I actually got a responding letter saying a change had been made.
This is easily the worst team since then, although in fairness, the competition is significantly better now.
MU has devolved into a low major and is now becoming a cupcake on opponents schedule. There is no question about that

[willie warrior]

Would have to go back to Ed Hickeys era, maybe his last season. Back in those days we did have Don Kojis who was a stud. But as I recall, his last year was like 5-21. Too lazy to look it up and get a bad memory.
Something definitely needs to have a significant emotional event to get this stuff to change now. Saw the team going downhill last year but did not fathom it would be this bad. The gap is now a chasm and really don't see much to change it. Might as well play the young guys now to let them grow. Probably too late, but bring some of the redshirt out.

[willie warrior]

Tom Petty." I'm free fallin"