Zaide Didn’t Travel With Team

[Viper]

The two questions on everyone's minds:
1. Did Derrick Wilson travel with the team?
 2. Is he vaxxed?

he shoots...he scores!!

[Viper]

You mean the 4 seasons where he went 3-4 in the NCAA (2-5 ATS - where we covered against the 15 seeds (Yay!) - and total of -60 ATS over those 7 games?) despite those two 2 seeds, never beating a higher seed (and in fact never beating better than a 10 seed) and exiting to a lower seed each year except the 8/9 UNC?

Certainly being in the tourney is better than not being in the tourney (boy don't we feel that this year) - but let's not pretend Shaka brought us dazzling March success. Making a FF puts serious money in the bank. Making an unexpectedly deep run puts serious money in the bank. Washing out when it matters most after a good regular season is, at best, a wash.

The best we could say was that Shaka had us on a good trajectory despite the disappointing tourney results - but now it looks like we peaked on January 3rd, 2025. Where the nadir is who knows but Shaka is certainly plumbing the depths looking. To get us back on trajectory would mean back in the T-25 and in the protected seed conversation late in the year. Upward trajectory would be a run to and past the S16. That gonna happen next year? The year after? 5 years to judge?

If Marquette simply doesn't have the resources to compete in this era then that absolutely sucks but so be it - but I want a coach that is at least willing to try with all the resources at their disposal. It would be great if Shaka is that guy because there is so much else to like about him, but if he's not going to do what it takes to put us in the best position to win each season, then see ya.

...100%!!  But the birds gonna chirp.

[Galway Eagle]

You mean the 4 seasons where he went 3-4 in the NCAA (2-5 ATS - where we covered against the 15 seeds (Yay!) - and total of -60 ATS over those 7 games?) despite those two 2 seeds, never beating a higher seed (and in fact never beating better than a 10 seed) and exiting to a lower seed each year except the 8/9 UNC?

Certainly being in the tourney is better than not being in the tourney (boy don't we feel that this year) - but let's not pretend Shaka brought us dazzling March success. Making a FF puts serious money in the bank. Making an unexpectedly deep run puts serious money in the bank. Washing out when it matters most after a good regular season is, at best, a wash.

The best we could say was that Shaka had us on a good trajectory despite the disappointing tourney results - but now it looks like we peaked on January 3rd, 2025. Where the nadir is who knows but Shaka is certainly plumbing the depths looking. To get us back on trajectory would mean back in the T-25 and in the protected seed conversation late in the year. Upward trajectory would be a run to and past the S16. That gonna happen next year? The year after? 5 years to judge?

If Marquette simply doesn't have the resources to compete in this era then that absolutely sucks but so be it - but I want a coach that is at least willing to try with all the resources at their disposal. It would be great if Shaka is that guy because there is so much else to like about him, but if he's not going to do what it takes to put us in the best position to win each season, then see ya.

This logic equates to 2011 > 2023 or at best a wash. I'm sorry but that's flat out absurd.

It also assumes upward trajectory is linear, it's not. I am pissed about this year and Shaka deserves all the heat he's getting, I'm more scared/pissed about next (Barring major pivots). But nobody in their right mind reads upward trajectory and says "well next season we have to make it past that round or else it's a downward trajectory". Anyone who has bought a stock at the right time or panicked and sold before it rebounded knows that.

Also to wades point let's be honest about where we are as a program. We can expect to be a tournament team almost every year but in my 34yrs on this earth Marquette has 6 second weekend runs... only 2 of those were past the sweet 16. In fact, we can extend that to anyone who was born since Raymond's made the S16 in 79 meaning if you're born in mid April 1977 or later we as a program have advanced past the S16 twice. I don't care if we beat an NCCAA team to get there as a 1seed, I'll take it and won't minimize it.

[WhiteTrash]

If Marquette simply doesn't have the resources to compete in this era then that absolutely sucks but so be it - but I want a coach that is at least willing to try with all the resources at their disposal. It would be great if Shaka is that guy because there is so much else to like about him, but if he's not going to do what it takes to put us in the best position to win each season, then see ya.

If Marquette doesn't have the resources to complete then they are absolute fools to do a multi-million dollar buyout a serviceable coach. The facts and actions of MU don't support the notion MU is one of the "have nots". MU acts and spends money like a top 40 program.