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Quote from: Mu8891 on Today at 07:50:13 AMOrange - Right .  The fact that Shaka is the only coach that won't use the portal IS absolutely ludicrous!  I mean ... he apparently thinks he's smarter than
( or holier and more " virtuous " ) every other D1 coach.

I don't know which is worse, that or the fact that he thought this roster of mostly Horizon League players could compete in the BE ?

Yes we know. We're all aware Shaka didn't use the portal.

We all knew this last season, and this summer. When 300 articles about it came out. "The only school to not have a transfer"

Scoop was loving the press then. Rgv was huge. Now that it's clear it completely backfired, yall come out of the woodwork and scream.

Nothing to be done until the portal opens back up.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 21, 2025, 09:32:11 PMItejere was a Top 100 recruit, who's rating obviously was too high. 

#FakeNews #Lies

whose vs. who's

Yikes. What a way to start off a long post.
The portal is NOT closed.

forgetful

Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 21, 2025, 09:46:00 PMDerrick Wilson had no business playing D-1 basketball.  No guard in D-1 should be so disrespected that defenders play off 5 feet.  That aside, my criticism of him was almost all directed at Buzz and Wojo, and those Scoopers who tried to suggest he was deserving of 30+ minutes per game.

Caedin Hamilton is more worthy of a D-1 scholarship than was Derrick Wilson. Tre Norman's numbers are better than Derrick's FFS.  Imagine if Shaka started playing Tre 30 minutes night in night out....Scoop would implode.

This is a stupid argument, but Wilson was a serviceable PG. He could defend the position very well, and could run the offense. He's still playing professionally in Europe today.

Right now, Hamilton cannot guard the 5-position, and can't make layups. He is not a serviceable C. Maybe he still develops into one, but at the equivalent point of their careers Wilson was of more value to MU than Hamilton is.

Elonsmusk

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Quote from: forgetful on Today at 08:49:40 AMThis is a stupid argument, but Wilson was a serviceable PG. He could defend the position very well, and could run the offense. He's still playing professionally in Europe today.

Right now, Hamilton cannot guard the 5-position, and can't make layups. He is not a serviceable C. Maybe he still develops into one, but at the equivalent point of their careers Wilson was of more value to MU than Hamilton is.

Derrick did excel at running our 4 on 5 offense with him at the helm - I'll give you that.  He never faced any ball pressure, wasn't able to force double teams via penetration - how teams defended us with him and how he "could run the offense" was the most disrespectful thing I've seen in 45 years of watching basketball.

That aside, Caedin hasn't been good.  At all.  But teams do defend him.  So, maybe they are equivalent - at least Shaka isn't running Caedin for 30-33/game! 

brewcity77

You're arguing Derrick Wilson AGAIN more than 10 years after he left the program & you can't see that your own unhealthy obsession with Wojo/Derrick is the exact same thing as the argument you're making against onepost?

Jesus F Christ, man, wake the hell up and realize you're yelling at a mirror.

jfp61

Senior year Derrick Wilson would be the second best player on this years team.

And is shaka giving DO minutes so we have two heinous players playing minutes now?

MUbiz

Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 09:50:37 AMSenior year Derrick Wilson would be the second best player on this years team.

And is shaka giving DO minutes so we have two heinous players playing minutes now?

Maybe by eye test, but definitely not by metrics. Senior year Wilson is 7th best on this years squad if you are looking at Torvik PRPG!

1. Chase - 2.9
2. Nigel - 1.9
3. Adrien - 1.5
4. Parham - 1.1
5. Gold - 1.0
6. Sean Jones - 1.0
7. Wilson - .9

JTJ3

I'd sure take Derrick Wilson instead of Sean or Tre as the backup PG if given the choice.

jfp61

Quote from: MUbiz on Today at 10:08:04 AMTorvik PRPG!

You allergic to defense?

Are you one of those who thinks Markus Howard is the best player ever? Was 2018 Andrew Rowsey your favorite player ever?

This year's team will have single digit wins. No one on this year's team is gonna have a positive adjusted team efficency rating at this rate.

In his worst year, on wojo's worst team, Wilson's was 11.8.

MUbiz

Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 10:47:21 AMYou allergic to defense?

Are you one of those who thinks Markus Howard is the best player ever? Was 2018 Andrew Rowsey your favorite player ever?

This year's team will have single digit wins. No one on this year's team is gonna have a positive adjusted team efficency rating at this rate.

In his worst year, on wojo's worst team, Wilson's was 11.8.

Quite the assumptions here. I am looking at the entire player - hence why I used points over replacement, not just cherry picking certain offensive or defensive stats.

For the record, I am in the fire Shaka this offseason camp if he continues to go RGV and not tell the deadweight they need to go and bring in xfers. But thinking Wilson would be one of the best players on this team, this year is just wrong imho. Wilson was mid at best and he would fit in right in the middle of low performers on this current squad.

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Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 21, 2025, 09:46:00 PMCaedin Hamilton is more worthy of a D-1 scholarship than was Derrick Wilson.

No

Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 21, 2025, 09:46:00 PMTre Norman's numbers are better than Derrick's FFS. 

They're not.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

jfp61

Quote from: MUbiz on Today at 10:56:16 AMQuite the assumptions here. I am looking at the entire player - hence why I used points over replacement, not just cherry picking certain offensive or defensive stats.

For the record, I am in the fire Shaka this offseason camp if he continues to go RGV and not tell the deadweight they need to go and bring in xfers. But thinking Wilson would be one of the best players on this team, this year is just wrong imho. Wilson was mid at best and he would fit in right in the middle of low performers on this current squad.

PRPG! is overwhelmingly an offensive stat. Using individual offensive rating and usage. So defensive first players are just undervalued to them.

And this years team could use alot of mid right now. Guys like Sean, Tre, Caedin, and Damarius are actively bad.

Jay Bee

This year's team is bad, but the thought that Derrick Wilson could save us to some degree (e.g., second best player) is a little bit nutzo.
The portal is NOT closed.

jfp61

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 11:23:23 AMThis year's team is bad, but the thought that Derrick Wilson could save us to some degree (e.g., second best player) is a little bit nutzo.

This team just so bad that it is breaking my brain.

Like lets get weird with this...
Derrick Wilson vs Sean Jones
Symir Torrence vs Tre Norman
Steven Taylor vs Caedin Hamilton
Joe Fulce vs Zaide Lowery
Jake Thomas vs Damarius Owens

Would John Dawson help or hurt this roster?

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