I don't have a single positive from this game

[warriors141]

One change that should happen in the off season is Nevada Smith has to go. Too big of a disconnect between the "offense" he runs and the players we have/what Shaka recruits

[Johnny B]

You know it's bad when ur calling for assistant coaches to get canned. Really scraping the bottom of the barrel

[WhiteTrash]

You know it's bad when ur calling for assistant coaches to get canned. Really scraping the bottom of the barrel

The assistant to the traveling secretary needs to go also.

[MarquetteMike1977]

I've reached complete apathy. Knew we'd get smoked, didn't even watch or change plans to watch, I don't care cause it feels like they don't care.

Beyond depressing.

Agree. It appears they care about their inner team relationships but not about us or winning unfortunately. It is beyond depressing.

[HutchwasClutch]

Given the way the year is going, people don't want to hear about "intangibles,  but I said to a friend before it was known that IM was going to redshirt, "I hope Ian sees the floor this year, for the sake of the team even more than for himself. I don't see any natural leaders on this team and Ian is always gathering up his teammates and keeping their heads up, coaching them on the floor when he has to." If the way he lead on the floor at RMHS was any indication, Marquette needs this young man going forward.

You're right, zero interest in hearing about intangibles watching this dumpster fire. 

[Viper]

It's the worst Marquette team I can remember.  Including the Wojo teams.  My first MU solid memory I think was '89 or whatever was Tony Smith' Sr. season.  Wojo had some really bad teams but I don't recall the feeling of not being competitive at all before halftime on a regular basis.  I mean there isn't like say a thought that if we do A, B, or C we have a remote chance.  We don't have a player than can get theirs, or change the game defensively, on the glass, drilling threes, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

definitely Dukiet's 3 yrs, or Deane yr 5 were harsh. Woj got it respectable in yr 2 after Buzz took a dump on the program, but this current team is garbage. Just embarrassing.I wonder what Shaka & staff actually think? Staring at what, 3 wins in conference?

[MuggsyB]

definitely Dukiet's 3 yrs, or Deane yr 5 were harsh. Woj got it respectable in yr 2 after Buzz took a dump on the program, but this current team is garbage. Just embarrassing.I wonder what Shaka & staff actually think? Staring at what, 3 wins in conference?

I thought 6 because of how bad the BEast is, but now I'm not sure we get 3. I don't know if we're better than DePaul.  We're definitely not better than the other 9 teams.   

[Billy Hoyle]

The first time since 1997 that we lost consecutive games by 20. Good news, we made the tourney that year. Bad news, weve lost three by 20 or more this season, unlike that season.

[Billy Hoyle]

The assistant to the traveling secretary needs to go also.

We don't deserve to stay in that Ramada

[Newsdreams]

I did a double take on Shawn.

Sean's cousin

[Warrior of Law]

The fact is that MU could have gotten the same results paying a coach 250K and the team 10K. Every dollar spent over that amount is money down the drain. No corporation would overpay for such awful returns. Most CEOs (ADs/Coaches) would be shown the door by now. We're MU so we'll be forced to grossly overpay for an awful product for another season.

[Galway Eagle]

The fact is that MU could have gotten the same results paying a coach 250K and the team 10K. Every dollar spent over that amount is money down the drain. No corporation would overpay for such awful returns. Most CEOs (ADs/Coaches) would be shown the door by now. We're MU so we'll be forced to grossly overpay for an awful product for another season.

Well given Shakas ultimately judged on an annual basis I'd say it's more likely he'd be put on a PIP and shown the door if he didn't make the necessary adjustments.

[jesmu84]

One change that should happen in the off season is Nevada Smith has to go. Too big of a disconnect between the "offense" he runs and the players we have/what Shaka recruits

Can't disagree with this more

[Vander Blue Man Group]

The fact is that MU could have gotten the same results paying a coach 250K and the team 10K. Every dollar spent over that amount is money down the drain. No corporation would overpay for such awful returns. Most CEOs (ADs/Coaches) would be shown the door by now. We're MU so we'll be forced to grossly overpay for an awful product for another season.

Jesus, this is dumb.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

On a positive note there will be plenty of minutes next year for anyone they pursue in the portal. Should be easier to sell the program

[GoldenEagles03]

On a positive note there will be plenty of minutes next year for anyone they pursue in the portal. Should be easier to sell the program

They don't have spots available on the roster let alone minutes. These players aren't going to willingly turn down the amount of money Marquette is giving them because they are all overpaid. Shaka will have to kick them out and I just don't see it happening.

[lake]

Yes.  This has already been discussed multiple times and the analytics confirm as much.

Nada

[MuggsyB]

He tried. He had the lineup of Nigel, Adrien/Zaide, Chase, Royce, Ben pretty locked in as his go to lineup for key stretches when there were signs of life.
Even at that time, however, he oddly used Caedin in key stretches.

Many of us, including myself, thought that lineup could be usable and effective and grow as the season progressed.

Not quite, so now he's scuffling and throwing spaghetti at the wall trying to find something that sticks, like he did early in the season.
Ain't nothin stickin though

Agreed.  And I've never understood why people still throw spaghetti at their refrigerators.  I know it's fun and all, but it's still stupid.  You cook pasta close to al dente and finish it off for a minute or two in your sauce.  And anyone who runs their pasta through sink water in their colander and then sauces it??  Don't ever speak to me about anything related to food or cooking again.  That's a good example of poor discipline, focus, and lacking rudimentary intelligence.  That simply cannot happen.  Ever. 

[willie warrior]

On a positive note there will be plenty of minutes next year for anyone they pursue in the portal. Should be easier to sell the program

What a deal. Come to MU to get lots of minutes as a low major getting your ass kicked by Dayton and Valpo. That is the ultimate recruiting pitch.

[rgoode57]

We can only hope that Shaka finally realizes the futility of his strategy. No, I do not want him to bring in five or six portal guys every year - none of us want that. But, there are plenty of really good programs - Purdue and UConn for example - who bring in one or two transfers each season to shore up weak spots. I admire Shaka's principles, but eventually you have to accept reality.

[Viper]

We can only hope that Shaka finally realizes the futility of his strategy. No, I do not want him to bring in five or six portal guys every year - none of us want that. But, there are plenty of really good programs - Purdue and UConn for example - who bring in one or two transfers each season to shore up weak spots. I admire Shaka's principles, but eventually you have to accept reality.

agreed, 100%. Shaka isn't going to admit his strategy is a bust, of course. But, if a player does leave after this offseason, Shaka HAS to go to the portal, right?

[Billy Hoyle]

What a deal. Come to MU to get lots of minutes as a low major getting your ass kicked by Dayton and Valpo. That is the ultimate recruiting pitch.

while getting a free education at one of the best schools in America and at least $400k a year for four (or five) years on top of that.

[WhiteTrash]

Everyone who feels Shaka should utilize the portal thinks that 6+ transfers a year is an equal failure to zero transfers.

First year coaches might have to deal with significant departures and bring in many transfers, but that's not Shaka.

[Billy Hoyle]

Everyone who feels Shaka should utilize the portal thinks that 6+ transfers a year is an equal failure to zero transfers.

First year coaches might have to deal with significant departures and bring in many transfers, but that's not Shaka.

Izzo and Painter currently have top ten teams with a total of three transfers between them (and one for MSU is out for the season). Tell me where having 6+ transfers a year is necessary to use the Portal?

[WhiteTrash]

Izzo and Painter currently have top ten teams with a total of three transfers between them (and one for MSU is out for the season). Tell me where having 6+ transfers a year is necessary to use the Portal?

Exactly.  6 transfers would be troubling and I think a red flag, just like a zero transfer policy.