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Do you have a threshold for showing Shaka the door in March?

No. None. You're overreacting and insane. He took us to a S16 FFS! A S16!!!
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Last place in the BE with a statement he's not going to the portal.
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Pakuni

#275
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on Today at 02:01:24 AMIt gets debated endlessly from all sides, but I think this is another example of not recognizing this program's history.

Last year we definitely faded down the stretch and the no transfer stuff was a clear culprit as well. Shaka needs to adjust, and I've been critical. But if a 7 seed after 9-2-2 were a real issue you should've been teaming up with Ners to blast Wojo from the start of his tenure. The fade and subsequent Hauser transfers ultimately weren't any worse than last year, and that was Wojo's best year.

I'm trying hard to get what you're saying here, but I'm not quite there. Because I consider the way last season played out a disappointment, I should have called for Wojo's firing from the start of his tenure? That's a pretty wild non-sequitur.

Anyhow, when people like you say we should judge a season against the program's history, which history? The Bob Dukiet era? The Al era? Buzz era? Some of you seem pretty hung up on the Wojo era ... is that the bar for success? Was last season OK, because Wojo also had a season that started out great and faded? And didn't Wojo get ripped here and elsewhere because of the way that season ended, to the extent he had to shut down his social media? By and large, Shaka's been given a relative pass for the way last season ended.

I guess I chose to judge a team's performance and success based on what that team does, not what happened 10, 20 or 50 years ago.


muwarrior69

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 06:56:50 AMYes. Obviously yes. If we didn't, we're DePaul accepting our lot but with a more overpaid coach.

Shaka earned a leash with 4 straight bids and a pair of 2-seeds, but he didn't walk on water. He didn't win a national championship. That is the only thing that gets a lifetime pass from me.

Two years of this would clearly demonstrate he cannot successfully transition to the new roster building paradigm and that 2022-25 was likely a lucky string with some generational players, most of which were transfers or recruited by another coach.

We're blaming Shaka, but could it be the Administration? We're 3-4 years in on NIL and in year one on revenue sharing which is just not men's basketball. Could it be that they're just figuring how they're going to divide up that pie (men's basketball, women's basketball and volleyball, etc.) to make it all work? Maybe Shaka just doesn't have the cash to get the players to be competitive? I think this off season might tell us in what direction the University will go. They dropped football in 1960. They just might decide that to be competitive at the high major D1 level in Men's basketball for National Championships is too costly in this new age of college athletics. When you have the AD and University President promoting RGV you have to wonder.

However, if we do have the cash, then it's on Shaka as we're certainly not getting an acceptable ROI.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 09:33:33 AMWe're blaming Shaka, but could it be the Administration? We're 3-4 years in on NIL and in year one on revenue sharing which is just not men's basketball. Could it be that they're just figuring how they're going to divide up that pie (men's basketball, women's basketball and volleyball, etc.) to make it all work? Maybe Shaka just doesn't have the cash to get the players to be competitive? I think this off season might tell us in what direction the University will go. They dropped football in 1960. They just might decide that to be competitive at the high major D1 level in Men's basketball for National Championships is too costly in this new age of college athletics. When you have the AD and University President promoting RGV you have to wonder.
I follow your logic, but no, that is not it. MU has sufficient resources to  compete in Big East and thus on the national stage for NCAA bids and maybe championships.

Many here sort of believe the opposite of what you are describing. MU's money is so good that players are at MU until the NCAA tells them they have to go.

brewcity77

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 09:33:33 AMWe're blaming Shaka, but could it be the Administration? We're 3-4 years in on NIL and in year one on revenue sharing which is just not men's basketball. Could it be that they're just figuring how they're going to divide up that pie (men's basketball, women's basketball and volleyball, etc.) to make it all work? Maybe Shaka just doesn't have the cash to get the players to be competitive? I think this off season might tell us in what direction the University will go. They dropped football in 1960. They just might decide that to be competitive at the high major D1 level in Men's basketball for National Championships is too costly in this new age of college athletics. When you have the AD and University President promoting RGV you have to wonder.

However, if we do have the cash, then it's on Shaka as we're certainly not getting an acceptable ROI.

No, I've heard multiple times that we've lost recruits not because we don't have the money but because we won't negotiate. And the biggest dollars are in the portal where we won't compete. I'm the last guy that will give admin a pass here, but we have the money and are choosing not to use is.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 07:04:55 AM*its


Lot of talk going around that you're one of the worst pickleball players in the state of Minnesota.

Class71

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 10:27:06 AMNo, I've heard multiple times that we've lost recruits not because we don't have the money but because we won't negotiate. And the biggest dollars are in the portal where we won't compete. I'm the last guy that will give admin a pass here, but we have the money and are choosing not to use is.

Nothing new here. MU has sports to make money, unlike some other schools. When they do not make money they drop the  sport. That is why football was dropped at MU. Will basketball be dropped? It is too early to tell but the days of winning an NCAA tournament are dimming as it is for a number of other under funded schools.

Welcome to the new world as the best well funded division I teams move to a few large conferences. The rest of the colleges? Well you get the idea. Create a new division? Anybodies guess. Has anyone thought about the implications of the new NIL world? Do the powers to be care? As long as the total consolidated profit from the sport overall increases it will not change. Yes, it is all about the money my friends. It is a business first and a sport second.
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MU82

Quote from: Class71 on Today at 10:55:27 AMWill basketball be dropped?

Yup, and I look forward to the Scoop poll on what the golf team's record will be after its first 5 matches.
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JTJ3

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 10:27:06 AMNo, I've heard multiple times that we've lost recruits not because we don't have the money but because we won't negotiate. And the biggest dollars are in the portal where we won't compete. I'm the last guy that will give admin a pass here, but we have the money and are choosing not to use is.

This, and its purely Shaka choosing not to use it.  Heard before the Purdue game a few of the major boosters are pissed, even more than us scoopers, because there is way too much money available for the roster to be so lacking in talent.  Shaka's gonna get next year to fix it, but his seat is not as cold as most people assume.  He's going to have to adapt or he's going to be gone if we're in this same spot 12 months from now.

CountryRoads

Quote from: JTJ3 on Today at 11:13:35 AMHeard before the Purdue game a few of the major boosters are pissed, even more than us scoopers, because there is way too much money available for the roster to be so lacking in talent.

Best news I've heard in a while. Bless those guys.

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