C Hamilton v. Portal addition?

[jfp61]

Were you blackout drunk from 2014 through 2021? Because Wojo's first and last teams were definitely worse than Buzz's last year.

This has more to do with roster balance...

But only Chase Ross, Ben Gold, and maybe Royce Parham would start for either the 2014 or 2021 wojo teams.

[The Sultan]

Was at mu with Dukiet and at least those teams played hard and we had some semblance of an offense. Example, I think there was a scrum during a game and Candelino bit a player from the other team. Don't see anyone on this soft as hell, can I get a hug roster....do that. We have no fight.

With all due respect, Shaka's teams have not been soft since he has been here and his offenses have been quite fine.

And don't "yeah but" the Dukiet-era. The only thing positive about that era is that it ended.

Man, some of you guys need to get a grip and gain some perspective. Yes there are problems that need to be fixed, but y'all are acting like we're Nebraska football and haven't won anything for 20 years.

[Viper]

For the hundredth time, we have the money.

replying here, but general question...do RGV swag sales support NIL?

[Viper]

Tough crowd but I get that.  I am less disturbed by the opinions of these posts as I am by the anger,attitude and disregard for the effort and talent of the plaers invovlved. I see no reason to asail the talent on this team as a pile of crap.  Life is simple not easy and success, however you define it is both difficult and fleeting.  I do have one question however and it is a question of balance.  Teams are allowed 15 players now instead of 13.  How can you decide in advance the better policy as a program?  If you recruited 13 players from high school every year and used two in the portal to fill gaps real or imagined or if you recruited 13 players from high school with the intention of playing them and 2 players every year to redshirt them for development, how could you tell which has the advantage until it has been a practice for at least 2 or 3 recruiting cycles?  I think it is simply too soon to pass judgement on either tactic.  I tjhink probably no coach wants 15 new players every year and over time every coach will dip into the portal somewhat.  Perhaps it is best just to wait until the waters settle over time to come into balance.  Under any circumstanmce being men and women of the Jesuit tradition maybe everyone should try to remain calm, not overreact to any one season and try to engage with the other in understanding and compassion.  If we are Marquette perhaps we should be more understanding of each other.

...I understand we are really bad. Dukiet era bad. Imagine those teams without Tony Smith? Imagine this team without Chase Ross? Yikes.

[dgies9156]

At the risk of arousing angry Scoopers, we're pointing too much of the finger at Caedin Hamilton. We we all can agree that he's not developed as Coach Shaka has hoped, Mr. Hamilton hardly is the largest problem we have.

We win as a team. We lose as a team. Hamilton has missed a boatload of threes. Nor was he any more than one cog in an inability to execute in the waning minutes of several losses and near losses. No one person, not even Chase, can carry the team by himself.

Nobody ever expected Hamilton was going to be the next Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. This train wreck is everyone's fault.

[AverageJoe]

He had 10 rebounds vs Valpo and was 1/5 with 2 turnovers. Walk ons also bring good energy

The announcer (Butch) was extremely positive towards Marquette, but he even criticized CH on at least three occasions: not having his hand up on D when the guy he was guarding hit a turnaround J over him, not hustling to save a ball going out of bounce (that Valpo saved and got a second chance), and he lost focus and let the guy he was guarding back-door him for an easy layup.  I don't remember Butch criticizing anyone else, outside of stating the obvious - they need to start draining these open looks...

[Pakuni]

At the risk of arousing angry Scoopers, we're pointing too much of the finger at Caedin Hamilton. We we all can agree that he's not developed as Coach Shaka has hoped, Mr. Hamilton hardly is the largest problem we have.

We win as a team. We lose as a team. Hamilton has missed a boatload of threes. Nor was he any more than one cog in an inability to execute in the waning minutes of several losses and near losses. No one person, not even Chase, can carry the team by himself.

Nobody ever expected Hamilton was going to be the next Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. This train wreck is everyone's fault.

The train wreck isn't everyone's fault. It's very clearly a small group of people's fault.
It's definitely not Caedin's fault he's been thrust into a situation he clearly wasn't - and may never be - prepared for. He's taking an unfair amount of criticism because he best exemplifies what's gone wrong this season and why some here have concerns about the future. He's not the only one, but he's (literally) front and center.

[Biggie Clausen]

The announcer (Butch) was extremely positive towards Marquette, but he even criticized CH on at least three occasions: not having his hand up on D when the guy he was guarding hit a turnaround J over him, not hustling to save a ball going out of bounce (that Valpo saved and got a second chance), and he lost focus and let the guy he was guarding back-door him for an easy layup.  I don't remember Butch criticizing anyone else, outside of stating the obvious - they need to start draining these open looks...

He also criticized Owens for a ridiculously bad "box out" where he had his back to the basket, shoved the guy he was trying to box out to the ground, and got called for a foul.  Example 1A of why DO doesn't get minutes right now.

This is unrelated and maybe not the thread for it, but Butch has been a terrific color guy for these low level games.  Great enthusiasm and spot on analysis.  He doesn't have the name recognition outside of Wisconsin to get the big national games right now, but I'm rooting for him to work his way up.  Even if he is a former Badger.

[GoFastAndWin]

...I understand we are really bad. Dukiet era bad. Imagine those teams without Tony Smith? Imagine this team without Chase Ross? Yikes.

💡 Eureka!

Take it completely over, Chase! 🏀

[Hards Alumni]

The announcer (Butch) was extremely positive towards Marquette, but he even criticized CH on at least three occasions: not having his hand up on D when the guy he was guarding hit a turnaround J over him, not hustling to save a ball going out of bounce (that Valpo saved and got a second chance), and he lost focus and let the guy he was guarding back-door him for an easy layup.  I don't remember Butch criticizing anyone else, outside of stating the obvious - they need to start draining these open looks...

Yep.  And if we shoot 35% from 3 all season instead of 30% we cover up the loss to Oklahoma, and probably one of Dayton or Maryland or both.  For the math nerds improving to 35% from 3 means we'd have scored just over 28 more points over those 9 games, or about just over one more 3 per game.  And depending on which games those buckets landed Marquette could easily be a shakey looking 8-1 or 7-2 team.  I'm sure we'd all feel a lot better if our record was 7-2 with wins over Dayton and Oklahoma.

Wins happen on a thin line.

[hawk]

That is an excellent point.  On the other hand if you can't make more ....take more.  If Gold is going to hang on the outside he can't ever be 1 for 3 at halftime.  I see no reason he can't get 12 shots a game