C Hamilton v. Portal addition?

[Mu8891]

I think ( almost ) everyone agrees that
Hamilton can't cut it in the BE. He is averaging about 5 pts and 3 rbs, but gets just killed out there.  Turnovers, lose w / the ball etc etc

Here's a specific alternative...

Jermichal Stillwell. Stillwell was at UWM and is now at UCF ( of the B12 ). He's
6'9" about 225.  At UCF this year he's averaging 12pts / 9 rebounds per game.
Having seen him play , he's a force.

I'm pretty sure Shaka could have kept him in MKE with any effort... instead, we have
Hamilton and Clark

What is it ?  Did Shaka not seen how woeful his front court is?  Does he want to continue to use his full array of pedantic and silly acronyms?  I don't get it ...

[NCMUFan]

It appears an errant philosophy based on viewing the current college BB landscape and rules.

[cheebs09]

I think they need to start Parham and have Hamilton be the backup to Ben. I just don't think that two big lineup is working.

[muwarrior69]

I think ( almost ) everyone agrees that
Hamilton can't cut it in the BE. He is averaging about 5 pts and 3 rbs, but gets just killed out there.  Turnovers, lose w / the ball etc etc

Here's a specific alternative...

Jermichal Stillwell. Stillwell was at UWM and is now at UCF ( of the B12 ). He's
6'9" about 225.  At UCF this year he's averaging 12pts / 9 rebounds per game.
Having seen him play , he's a force.

I'm pretty sure Shaka could have kept him in MKE with any effort... instead, we have
Hamilton and Clark

What is it ?  Did Shaka not seen how woeful his front court is?  Does he want to continue to use his full array of pedantic and silly acronyms?  I don't get it ...

...but do we have the financial resources which I believe is the primary reason for RGV. Even if we get a decent transfer that is no guarantee of success. The dream of a MU Natty is pretty much out of reach unless we have a sugar donor to pony up and compete for top athletes.

[MuggsyB]

I think they need to start Parham and have Hamilton be the backup to Ben. I just don't think that two big lineup is working.

Ya...I've stated this since like the 2nd game.  I understand the concern on the glass, but we can't guard with 2 bigs on the floor.  Ben can occasionally defend the paint, that's about it.  All three struggle mightily with individual and help defense.

[Jay Bee]

Here's a specific alternative...

Jermichal Stillwell. Stillwell was at UWM and is now at UCF ( of the B12 ). He's
6'9" about 225.  At UCF this year he's averaging 12pts / 9 rebounds per game.
Having seen him play , he's a force.

I'm pretty sure Shaka could have kept him in MKE with any effort... instead, we have
Hamilton and Clark

His name isn't Jermichal, but what makes you dream up that "Shaka could have kept him in MKE with any effort"? The guy is from the south, now back in the south and on a solid b12 team with a well known coach/player.

[Mu8891]

JB - ok JAmichal.  You happy ?
Dream up ?  You think that little of Shaka ?  He couldn't sign this type of player ?  I thought HE is a " well known coach "

I thought MU had a well known coach who could recruit?  But ... if you are happy with the AWFUL team he's put out there then that's on you. 

[Zog from Margo]

I actually see a lot of progress in Hamilton. He had double digit rebounds last night. I think the issue is that it is too soon to expect him to play this many minutes.

[Jay Bee]

JB - ok JAmichal.  You happy ?
Dream up ?  You think that little of Shaka ?  He couldn't sign this type of player ?  I thought HE is a " well known coach "

I thought MU had a well known coach who could recruit?  But ... if you are happy with the AWFUL team he's put out there then that's on you. 

You still have his name wrong and you didn't answer the question. Good luck.

[CountryRoads]

I actually see a lot of progress in Hamilton. He had double digit rebounds last night. I think the issue is that it is too soon to expect him to play this many minutes.

Hamilton is Shaka's guy so I think realistically he has one of the lowest chances of portaling after this year. His role is way too big currently though.

[Jockey]

I actually see a lot of progress in Hamilton. He had double digit rebounds last night. I think the issue is that it is too soon to expect him to play this many minutes.

Parham has been disappointing this year, but the fact that his minutes are basically the same as Hamilton is coaching malfeasance.

[Zog from Margo]

Hamilton gets a lot of attention because he's playing, but he's probably exceeded any expectations I had for him heading into the season. The problem with this team for me is that so many players are playing below where I expected.

Owens is a guy that I thought would play a lot of minutes and he's been awful. He's regressed as a player and seems a bit flighty to me. Parham has just recently started to play with a bit of energy but I thought he had a chance to lead the team in scoring. Parham is living proof that Todd Smith is not the miracle worker some want to claim. Parham is pretty weak. Norman has no offensive game and is maybe solid on defense. Lowery can't finish at the rim unless it's an uncontested dunk.

I'd start James and Stevens going forward and play for next year. Both seem like solid players who play much tougher than their upperclass counterparts.

[panda]

I actually see a lot of progress in Hamilton. He had double digit rebounds last night. I think the issue is that it is too soon to expect him to play this many minutes.

I'm reminded of this clip every time ch is on the floor.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6PP4RT-vv-o&pp=4gcNEgtjaGF0Z3B0LmNvbQ%3D%3D

[MUbiz]

Hamilton gets a lot of attention because he's playing, but he's probably exceeded any expectations I had for him heading into the season.

You expected MUBB to be 19.8 points better per 100 possessions when Caedin is on the bench?  MUBB scores 111.6 points per 100 possessions when 18 is on bench and 91.8 points per 100 possessions when 18 is on the floor.

https://www.anonymouseagle.com/marquette-mens-basketball/33224/golden-eagles-caedin-hamilton-starter-rotation-shaka-smart

[Zog from Margo]

I remember when Chris Crawford traveled every time he touched the ball.

Hamilton has few basketball instincts. Those could come with experience. Maybe they won't. Owens has no fire in the belly. That doesn't usually change. Norman has fire in the belly but limited skills and athletic ability. Parham lacks physical strength and gets out of control. Lowery doesn't appear to have the mindset to be anything but a complementary player and he's never learned to finish at the rim.

Hamilton should not be playing as much as he is and he shouldn't be starting. Still, I expected little from him this year and others have been far bigger disappointments to me.

[onepost]

...but do we have the financial resources which I believe is the primary reason for RGV. Even if we get a decent transfer that is no guarantee of success. The dream of a MU Natty is pretty much out of reach unless we have a sugar donor to pony up and compete for top athletes.

For the hundredth time, we have the money.

[Pakuni]

I actually see a lot of progress in Hamilton. He had double digit rebounds last night. I think the issue is that it is too soon to expect him to play this many minutes.

Did you watch the game, or just read the box score?

Caedin's been in the program for three years. If three years is "too soon" to play 19 minutes per game, what's the point of bringing a player like this into the program? You're going to spend 4 years paying and developing a kid so he can maybe give you 25 decent minutes a night by year 5? That doesn't seem a very good use of Marquette's resources.

[Duane6]

How in the world is Hamilton exceeding expectations? He is the worst player I've ever seen at Marquette. Worse than froling and Wally ellenson. Hamilton can't play defense, can't shoot, can't score inside. He's literally horrible at everything, I don't care if he's rebounding vs Valpo. This type of player starting on Maquette let alone being on the roster is absolutely unacceptable

[Duane6]

We are top 10 in spending on college basketball in the country and we have Tre Norman and Caedin Hamilton playing big minutes. Just horrible

[Jay Bee]

We are top 10 in spending on college basketball in the country

#FakeNews #Lies

[jfp61]

We are top 10 in spending on college basketball in the country

Athletic Department burning money =/= NIL budget

[Biggie Clausen]

I remember when Chris Crawford traveled every time he touched the ball.

Hamilton has few basketball instincts. Those could come with experience. Maybe they won't. Owens has no fire in the belly. That doesn't usually change. Norman has fire in the belly but limited skills and athletic ability. Parham lacks physical strength and gets out of control. Lowery doesn't appear to have the mindset to be anything but a complementary player and he's never learned to finish at the rim.

Hamilton should not be playing as much as he is and he shouldn't be starting. Still, I expected little from him this year and others have been far bigger disappointments to me.

Chris Crawford played in the NBA for several years and probably would've stuck around longer if it hadn't been for injuries.  He was a pretty good player.

[Duane6]

Aware spending does not equal NIL budget. This is supposed to be a premier college basketball program, and not going after transfers and keeping these guys on the roster is malpractice.

[Biggie Clausen]

How in the world is Hamilton exceeding expectations? He is the worst player I've ever seen at Marquette. Worse than froling and Wally ellenson. Hamilton can't play defense, can't shoot, can't score inside. He's literally horrible at everything, I don't care if he's rebounding vs Valpo. This type of player starting on Maquette let alone being on the roster is absolutely unacceptable

Yeah, Christ, I mean, at least Wally Ellenson took away a track scholarship (or multiple partial scholarships) from more deserving student athletes just to shut his mom up after Wojo cut him, and then he dropped out of school anyway.  No way Hamilton would have the stones or the sway to pull off something like that.  Not advocating for Hamilton or his character at all here, btw.  Both him and Wally are/were awful players.

[Duane6]

Certainly not advocating for Wally or Henry ellenson. Just basing it off actual talent