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The Sultan

Quote from: Xact on December 01, 2025, 09:54:17 PMIf the shoe fits...

Fair Weather Fan = Someone who only supports a sports team when it's winning or doing well, but quickly loses interest or disappears when the team struggles. In other words, their loyalty depends on the team's success rather than genuine long‑term commitment.

There's nothing inherently wrong with being a fair weather fan. I most certainly am when it comes to the Brewers for instance.

But most here aren't fair weather.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Shooter McGavin

Yep, I don't think scoopers fit the definition of fair weather fans. 

willie warrior

Quote from: Pakuni on November 30, 2025, 11:52:22 PMWhen has Marquette basketball ever been on an even footing with Kentucky?
When Al was coach. He'll they kicked Kentuckys ass with Crean and Wade in the elite 8.
So yeah there is no reason we cannot be on an even footing. But right now many things have to change.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

rgoode57

Since I started this thread, I feel compelled to make one more comment.

It is obvious that many of you share my frustration and declining enthusiasm. It is truly hard to watch this team and see them lose to teams like Dayton, Maryland, and Oklahoma. I shudder to think how lopsided the score may be in the Purdue game - or maybe even the WI game. The team will start the BE season with a losing record, and I will say again that it is hard to imagine more than a handful of conference wins.

I would be perfectly ok with a bad season as long as the youngsters were getting lots of playing time and showing obvious improvement. But, I have doubt that Owens is ever going to really come around, and Hamilton simply does not look like a guy to anchor the front line of a  BE team. Parham may continue to improve, but I am not sure how high his ceiling really is. That leaves James and Stevens and another group of freshmen for next year.

I do not fully understand how much money MU has to pay players, and I think the whole pay system has really messed up college sports. Perhaps Shaka really limits himself to high school recruits simply because it is the cheaper way to go and money is limited. Maybe the new reality is that conferences like the BE and A10 cannot remain relevant, but I certainly hope not.

For this year, I will watch games when it is convenient to do so but will make no special effort to do it.

RGV? Shaka needs to be concerned about retaining the fan base as well as players.

Pakuni

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 08:03:56 AMWhen Al was coach. He'll they kicked Kentuckys ass with Crean and Wade in the elite 8.
So yeah there is no reason we cannot be on an even footing. But right now many things have to change.

We may have won some games against Kentucky over the years, but MU has never been on their level in terms of resources at the program's disposal and ability to invest in players.

Billy Hoyle

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Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 08:03:56 AMWhen Al was coach. He'll they kicked Kentuckys ass with Crean and Wade in the elite 8.
So yeah there is no reason we cannot be on an even footing. But right now many things have to change.

yeah, we beat Kentucky in 2003. Equal footing! Al was also 2-3 against UK, 2-2 in the NCAA tournament, losing to them the last time the teams played, the second round of the 1975 NCAA tourney.

Does that mean we're behind Dayton, considering they've beaten us the last four times we've played and seven of the last eight, including in the 2002-03 season?
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Viper

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 10:09:40 AMyeah, we beat Kentucky in 2003. Equal footing! Al was also 2-3 against UK, 2-2 in the NCAA tournament, losing to them the last time the teams played, the second round of the 1975 NCAA tourney.

Does that mean we're behind Dayton, considering they've beaten us the last four times we've played and seven of the last eight, including in the 2002-03 season?
I want Marquette to be on level with Duke. Dayton guy wants Dayton to be on level with Marquette. We are not...they are not.
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willie warrior

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 09:39:53 AMWe may have won some games against Kentucky over the years, but MU has never been on their level in terms of resources at the program's disposal and ability to invest in players.
But we should be.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

The Sultan

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 12:13:54 PMBut we should be.

We should be able to compete with Kentucky. But schools like Kentucky are going to be regularly better than us. That's just how it is.
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 12:13:54 PMBut we should be.

why *should* we be? And if we *should* be, how do we get there?
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