Hard to maintain interest

[Billy Hoyle]

Yikes

not really. The Power 4 football schools are allocating at least 70% of the $20.5 million towards football (most I've seen are higher) and around 15 percent on hoops, so that puts MU on par and even ahead of most of those programs. UCLA is one of the few outliers with a higher percentage dedicated to basketball. 

[WellsstreetWanderer]

When has Marquette basketball ever been on an even footing with Kentucky?

Back in Al's day we were.

[CountryRoads]

Didn't think it was worth a new thread but MU checks in at #167 in the initial NET rankings. Maryland is a Q4 loss currently.

[Billy Hoyle]

Back in Al's day we were.

When most of us here weren't born, or those who were were unable to legally enjoy a beer at the 'Lanche. Ok then.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Question posed;question answered

[Bahama]

My guess is a lot of that stuff is made after an order is placed and shipped directly from the manufactuer. I can't imagine they have all of that in stock.

I was at the Spirit Shop after the CMU game (20% discount for season ticket holders) and the RGV stuff was overwhelming and front and center once you walk in, it had the prime real-estate that historically had some of the coolest merch.

No one was buying it - the shelves were more full than any other section.

They definitely had a bunch of the other knick knacks like shot glasses/mugs with the logo in-person as well.

[Pakuni]

Back in Al's day we were.

Not really. We may have had similar success, but we never had their resources.

[The Sultan]

I was at the Spirit Shop after the CMU game (20% discount for season ticket holders) and the RGV stuff was overwhelming and front and center once you walk in, it had the prime real-estate that historically had some of the coolest merch.

No one was buying it - the shelves were more full than any other section.

They definitely had a bunch of the other knick knacks like shot glasses/mugs with the logo in-person as well.

Well, then they will figure out quickly that it doesn't have that much of a demand.

Really strange that they would go with something so niche.

[79Warrior]

Yikes

lol. Show us the budget.

[The Sultan]

When players play for a paycheck instead of a school, it's not the same game to me.

When you see that UK has a roster receiving over $20 million (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/kentucky/mens-basketball/2025/10/16/kentucky-wildcats-basketball-roster-cost-20-million/86732570007/), what is your expectation for MU? Shouldn't one's expectations be commensurate with the team's payroll?

I just root for the team and don't concern myself at all with their compensation.

[Viper]

What a genuine and completely reasonable thought to have. I'm sure someone on this board will find a way to tell you you're wrong.

the 2nd comment is your answer, which is typical. No substance, other than bs

[Zog from Margo]

I just root for the team and don't concern myself at all with their compensation.

That's what I have been doing.

It's interesting. College hoops is becoming more like MLB. In that world, MU would be the Brewers. The Brewers develop and don't have much to spend on FAs.

[cheebs09]

That's what I have been doing.

It's interesting. College hoops is becoming more like MLB. In that world, MU would be the Brewers. The Brewers develop and don't have much to spend on FAs.

I feel that's not totally new. There's always been the have's and the have nots. Whether it's facilities, under the table payments, etc.

[K1 Lover]

the 2nd comment is your answer, which is typical. No substance, other than bs

Didn't even notice that. I appreciate the laugh.

[Daniel]

There is nothing wrong with RGV - the teams before this year have seemed so connected and for each other.    Other coaches have said similar things about their teams.   We as fans focus on the V and of course, that what coaches get paid for.   But RG can help Vs.    this team seems. But disconnected, and that is a major issue. 

[brewcity77]

The problem is trying to market it. That assumes that your customer base cares as much about your internal philosophy as you do (they pretty much never do) and that you're okay making your internal philosophy bigger than your established brand ("Marquette University" doesn't appear on the front of the RGV merch).

I'm not sure if it's more a sign of idiocy or arrogance in thinking that was a smart move, but 99.9% of the people that see that merch in the wild will have zero clue it's promoting Marquette, and that's not good for branding.

[Xact]

If the shoe fits...

Fair Weather Fan = Someone who only supports a sports team when it's winning or doing well, but quickly loses interest or disappears when the team struggles. In other words, their loyalty depends on the team's success rather than genuine long‑term commitment.

[wadesworld]

I'm learning that I take college athletic team mottos way less seriously than a lot of people, it seems. Almost every college athletic team in every sport at every level has a (or often multiple) dumb phrase it lives by. GTST for Buzz at MU. Nobody cared about RGV when MU was winning. Just like nobody cared when Shaka was responded with some edge to him during post game interviews ("We take a back seat to nobody in this league").

Couldn't care much less about what term our coaches use as their motto. Apparently I'm in the minority.

[nyg]

I'm learning that I take college athletic team mottos way less seriously than a lot of people, it seems. Almost every college athletic team in every sport at every level has a (or often multiple) dumb phrase it lives by. GTST for Buzz at MU. Nobody cared about RGV when MU was winning. Just like nobody cared when Shaka was responded with some edge to him during post game interviews ("We take a back seat to nobody in this league").

Couldn't care much less about what term our coaches use as their motto. Apparently I'm in the minority.

Yeah, but Shaka has had a new one each year.

First it was "play with violence"
Then it was "culture", which has continued to nauseum of course.
Then it was EGB or EKG, whatever
Now it's RGV

Can't wait for next year's motto/theme. Almost like a narrative for nicknames for everyone in elementary school. 

[brewcity77]

Couldn't care much less about what term our coaches use as their motto. Apparently I'm in the minority.

No one cares what they use as the motto. The problem is reshaping the marketing to promote the motto over the University. For a month, the front page of the Spirit Shop was the 61 RGV items. If you go to the physical location. RGV dominates the front tables when you walk in.

GTST "marketing" was a free t-shirt with your section color on NMD. Win Every Day was a gold rally towel giveaway. This is cult of personality stuff.

[wadesworld]

Yeah, but Shaka has had a new one each year.

First it was "play with violence"
Then it was "culture", which has continued to nauseum of course.
Then it was EGB or EKG, whatever
Now it's RGV

Can't wait for next year's motto/theme. Almost like a narrative for nicknames for everyone in elementary school. 

RGV has been their catch phrase for years. They also use culture, violence, EGBs, etc.

[nyg]

RGV has been their catch phrase for years. They also use culture, violence, EGBs, etc.

Thanks, thought it was Growth, Development, Retention.  Guess that Development phrase got lost along the way. Can't wait for next one. 

[GoFastAndWin]

With all the angst of the MU fan base right now, if ever there was a time to
"Win Any Way" it is right now. And no, it's not "Anyway" because we are not playing connected basketball right now. And we will take ANY way of getting a W.

[CountryRoads]

RGV should just be quietly dropped. After being a nice team motto for a few years, it's now become a meme. There is no positive connotation to it anymore and never will be again.

[brewcity77]

RGV has been their catch phrase for years. They also use culture, violence, EGBs, etc.

Relationships Growth Victory was used. Not RGV. Otherwise the Rio Grande Valley jokes would've started years ago.