Lineups - just bizarre. Would like to see the contract.

[79Warrior]

Something is definitely up with DO. He should be playing much more but isn't.

How about perhaps he just is not that good.

[panda]

How about perhaps he just is not that good.

Have you watched Caedin Hamilton

[Pakuni]

You are a piece of work.

Shaka.....I am playing DO less minutes.

Pakuni.....DO SHOULD PLAY MORE!

cool.......but Shaka is the coach and hes playing less, not more cuz some guy on the internet just thinks he should. Odd.

We R Final Four ... no one should question any of Shaka's decisions. He's pressing all the right buttons right now.

[We R Final Four]

Seems to be a common theme with this team.

[We R Final Four]

We R Final Four ... no one should question any of Shaka's decisions. He's pressing all the right buttons right now.

Certainly not the case......but wishing for a guy to be better than he is doesn't sound like a viable plan.

[BCHoopster]

Have you watched Caedin Hamilton

I have watched enough hoops this weekend, to say MU's bigs might be the worst I have seen.  Caedin really is the worst center maybe in MU history.  I hope he can pull it together.  Shaka really tries hard to sell us on his improvement.  If he has improved he must have been really bad.  Instead of 10,000 hook shots he worked on maybe a mid range jumper would have been better!

[Johnny B]

I have watched enough hoops this weekend, to say MU's bigs might be the worst I have seen.  Caedin really is the worst center maybe in MU history.  I hope he can pull it together.  Shaka really tries hard to sell us on his improvement.  If he has improved he must have been really bad.  Instead of 10,000 hook shots he worked on maybe a mid range jumper would have been better!

Idk if he's the worst big we've had but he's probably the worst starter MUs had in the last 20 plus years. Idk what Shaka was thinking. I don't think he'd play more than garbage time mins on any other big east team but here he is starting for us. It's a joke

[Pakuni]

Certainly not the case......but wishing for a guy to be better than he is doesn't sound like a viable plan.

Nobody said this.

[HutchwasClutch]

I have watched enough hoops this weekend, to say MU's bigs might be the worst I have seen.  Caedin really is the worst center maybe in MU history.  I hope he can pull it together.  Shaka really tries hard to sell us on his improvement.  If he has improved he must have been really bad.  Instead of 10,000 hook shots he worked on maybe a mid range jumper would have been better!

Lloyd Moore
Roman Muller
Rod Grosse
Greg "Biggie" Clausen
Jon Mueller
Chris Grimm
Mike Kinsella
Yous Mbao

I'm sure I missed a couple guys. Stop with the hyperbole. 

[Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist]

Lloyd Moore
Roman Muller
Rod Grosse
Greg "Biggie" Clausen
Jon Mueller
Chris Grimm
Mike Kinsella
Yous Mbao

I'm sure I missed a couple guys. Stop with the hyperbole. 

Richard Shaw, Jarred Lovette, Brett Roseboro, Liam McNeely

[HutchwasClutch]

Richard Shaw, Jarred Lovette, Brett Roseboro, Liam McNeely

I thought Lovette was ok.

[We R Final Four]

Nobody said this.

LOL...ok I'll leave it at that.

[BCHoopster]

Richard Shaw, Jarred Lovette, Brett Roseboro, Liam McNeely

I figured somebody would analysis the center position, there has been bad ones for sure, Caedin belongs in that group!

[BM1090]

Caedin belongs nowhere near that group. And I agree he's been bad.

[#UnleashNigel]

How about perhaps he just is not that good.

Golds getting 35 minutes all the time 

[Hards Alumni]

At this point I'd reduce Gold (12 minutes per) and park Hamilton. Go with Ross, James, Lowery, Steven's, Phillips, Clark for Hamilton, Parham, Jones & Norman are tbd's based on starter fatigue, game flow and foul trouble. Basically, Gold's minutes are cut, Hamilton and Owens on the pine. From where MU currently sits, it can't get much worse. Looking ahead, we'll beat Valpo. Wisconsin is a loss, but RED isn't to be feared. Purdue will be an asss kick. Painter will call off the dogs up 30 having eclipsed 100.

That's why you're a poster on a message board that anyone can join and not a college basketball coach.

Apologies, this isn't personal, it's like 75% of the board at this point.

[MU82]

That's why you're a poster on a message board that anyone can join and not a college basketball coach.

Apologies, this isn't personal, it's like 75% of the board at this point.

You got that right. Although a few are calling for the guy who's averaging 8 boards to have PT reduced to 15 mins a game.

[We R Final Four]

Yes....and there are some on here who believe certain bench players deserve more playing time........even though when they get a chance yo prove themselves.....Shaka yells at them for setting up on the wrong side of the court......right out of a timeout.

[Pakuni]

Yes....and there are some on here who believe certain bench players deserve more playing time........even though when they get a chance yo prove themselves.....Shaka yells at them for setting up on the wrong side of the court......right out of a timeout.

#fakenews #lies

[We R Final Four]

Shaka didn't yell at your guy for setting up on the left side of the court....when he Shaka directed him to go to the right side??

[Pakuni]

Shaka didn't yell at your guy for setting up on the left side of the court....when he Shaka directed him to go to the right side??

I didn't write that he "deserves more playing time."
But you can't help yourself.

[We R Final Four]

Still think he should be getting more opportunities?

[Pakuni]

Still think he should be getting more opportunities?

Yeah, of course. The Valpo game only further confirmed my belief that winning important games isn't in the cards this season and the remaining schedule should be about building and developing the roster for next year and beyond. That includes deciding who should and shouldn't be part of the team next year and beyond.
Unlike some players who haven't been glued to the bench, I still think DO has a shot at being a Big East-caliber player. Doesn't mean he will be - he may very well continue to stink - but there's a plausible scenario in which it happens.

If you could convince me that burying DO on the bench significantly improves this team's chances of knocking off Bucky or Purdue, or making a run in the Big East, then by all means, bury him. But I don't believe that's true. That being the case, I'd give him more run. It's not going to make a difference in this year's outcome anyhow.
If he remains bad, he remains bad. It's not like Zaide or Phillips are out there killing it.

[The Sultan]

Yeah, of course. The Valpo game only further confirmed my belief that winning important games isn't in the cards this season and the remaining schedule should be about building and developing the roster for next year and beyond. That includes deciding who should and shouldn't be part of the team next year and beyond.
Unlike some players who haven't been glued to the bench, I still think DO has a shot at being a Big East-caliber player. Doesn't mean he will be - he may very well continue to stink - but there's a plausible scenario in which it happens.

If you could convince me that burying DO on the bench significantly improves this team's chances of knocking off Bucky or Purdue, or making a run in the Big East, then by all means, bury him. But I don't believe that's true. That being the case, I'd give him more run. It's not going to make a difference in this year's outcome anyhow.
If he remains bad, he remains bad. It's not like Zaide or Phillips are out there killing it.

I mean DO's been out there and has largely looked bad. Why should he get any more minutes than he has?

[Pakuni]

I mean DO's been out there and has largely looked bad. Why should he get any more minutes than he has?

Several players have been out there and largely looked bad. If Shaka didn't play all the players who've largely looked bad, he'd struggle to field a team. Shaka continues to start multiple players who've largely looked bad. Including the guy who starts ahead of him (and no, I'm not suggesting DO starts).

I don't think anyone disagrees that DO's play has been really poor this year. IMO, he showed enough flashes last year that I wouldn't give up on him now that the season is for all intents over anyhow. Playing him 10 minutes a night isn't going to damage this team's tournament chances.