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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 28, 2025, 04:15:47 PMI understand this is tremendously upsetting.  Would you completely start over?  I was just curious.

I'd supplement. James is a keeper, you can win with Parham, Stevens looked good in the first half and has potential, probably off the bench next ueart. There's two definite starters for next year. Bring in a shooter and a 5 man for next year who can help develop Sheek.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MuggsyB

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 28, 2025, 04:22:18 PMI'd supplement. James is a keeper, you can win with Parham, Stevens looked good in the first half and has potential, probably off the bench next ueart. There's two definite starters for next year. Bring in a shooter and a 5 man for next year who can help develop Sheek.

I think it's now obvious we have to get some immediate ballers from the portal.

MuggsyB

I can actually live without having a Hakeem like big.  That said, MU has to be a team with multiple guys that can do damage off the bounce, and at least 1 lights out spot shooter.  My wish has always been a 6'5 Rowsey that can defend like Ginobli. 

Johnny B

Quote from: onepost on November 28, 2025, 04:10:13 PMIn Shaka's 5 seasons, he's had one (1) recruit who's truly developed: Chase Ross. What led you to believe he was capable of developing his own guys in a meaningful way? The fact Hamilton, Gold, Norman have all improved and still absolutely suck tells you all you need to know.

He either can't develop heralded recruits (Ellis, Owens, Amadou, Norman, Jones) that they transfer out or don't belong or his recruits are so bad (Gold, Hamilton, Clark, Itejere) that even modest improvement makes them largely unplayable or clear that they don't belong.
sure Ross has developed. But hell is freshman Ross the best player on this team right now? Maybe ..

MarquetteMike1977

 Are we fighting with 2 hands tied behind our back

BCHoopster

Bringing in kids to redshirt was fine years ago, today no.  Bring in transfers that can play right away.  Caedin, Clark now Sheek and Militic, I hope those 2 can play, those early recruits can not.  Trimble at NC wanted to transfer here but Shaka was to stubborn.

Nukem2

Quote from: BCHoopster on November 28, 2025, 04:36:12 PMBringing in kids to redshirt was fine years ago, today no.  Bring in transfers that can play right away.  Caedin, Clark now Sheek and Militic, I hope those 2 can play, those early recruits can not.  Trimble at NC wanted to transfer here but Shaka was to stubborn.
To be sure, Sheek and Ian are different level guys who have skills. Hamilton and Clark were and still are projects.

Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Elonsmusk

Quote from: onepost on November 28, 2025, 04:00:42 PMLook who killed us today:
- Pack: transfer 6th year senior
- Reid: transfer sophomore
- Davis: transfer senior
- Nwanko: transfer senior

Frustrated with the loss but alternatively you could say a team with the following composition led by as many as 13, led for 31 minutes of a 40 minute game, but lost by 1 point:

Freshman PG
Junior G
Senior G
Senior F
Sophomore C

And a freshman (Stevens) and sophomore (Parham) who made good contributions.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 28, 2025, 05:15:09 PMFrustrated with the loss but alternatively you could say a team with the following composition led by as many as 13, led for 31 minutes of a 40 minute game, but lost by 1 point:

Freshman PG
Junior G
Senior G
Senior F
Sophomore C

And a freshman (Stevens) and sophomore (Parham) who made good contributions.

With all due respect, leading for 31 mins and losing by 1 is irrelevant.  We also didn't have a FG from like the 13 min mark till the 6:30 mark. 

onepost

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Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 28, 2025, 05:15:09 PMFrustrated with the loss but alternatively you could say a team with the following composition led by as many as 13, led for 31 minutes of a 40 minute game, but lost by 1 point:

Freshman PG
Junior G
Senior G
Senior F
Sophomore C

And a freshman (Stevens) and sophomore (Parham) who made good contributions.

And I would say I don't care about moral victories against average HM teams. Maybe 5-10 years ago, but it's a new sport now and the losing product we're trotting out each game is unacceptable.

Cool, we actually led today for a bit as opposed to the Indiana crap kicking. Yet we blew that 13 point lead with an incredible scoring drought, scrapped to even be in the game late, and pissed down our legs with 17 seconds for the second time in a week. That's pathetic.

nyg

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 28, 2025, 05:18:13 PMWith all due respect, leading for 31 mins and losing by 1 is irrelevant.  We also didn't have a FG from like the 13 min mark till the 6:30 mark. 

Yes, those players he mentioned did not score a point for the last four minutes of first half.  Then there was a five minute period in second half, when they were up that 13 points, where they did not score a field goal.  Thats nine minutes or 25% (one quarter), with no field goals made. 

MuggsyB

Our team doesn't handle pressure particularly well and we're wildly inconsistent with practice jumpers.  What I'm specifically referring to are the wide as the Pacific Ocean triples Zaide and Ben missed during the Oklahoma run.  Those must be drilled at a very high percentage.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: onepost on November 28, 2025, 04:01:55 PMIt's been obvious since Jan 1st, 2025. We were Weekend at Bernie's the last 3 months of last season.
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HutchwasClutch

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 28, 2025, 05:27:22 PMOur team doesn't handle pressure particularly well and we're wildly inconsistent with practice jumpers.  What I'm specifically referring to are the wide as the Pacific Ocean triples Zaide and Ben missed during the Oklahoma run.  Those must be drilled at a very high percentage.
Especially from a senior.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 28, 2025, 05:27:22 PMOur team doesn't handle pressure particularly well and we're wildly inconsistent with practice jumpers.  What I'm specifically referring to are the wide as the Pacific Ocean triples Zaide and Ben missed during the Oklahoma run.  Those must be drilled at a very high percentage.
Yes our team is like clueless manatees
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Newsdreams on November 28, 2025, 07:23:11 PMYes our team is like clueless manatees

Manatees handle anxiety and stress quite well if the situation isn't life threatening.  Again, this is a species that should never be mocked or ridiculed.  They adapt and perform their daily routines calmly.  They're basically sea Newfoundlands or St.Bernards, with a little extra weight.

Biggie Clausen

Quote from: onepost on November 28, 2025, 04:00:42 PMLook who killed us today:
- Pack: transfer 6th year senior
- Reid: transfer sophomore
- Davis: transfer senior
- Nwanko: transfer senior

It ain't like we lost to one of Bo Ryan's Final Four teams, where all the starters were upperclassmen who'd been deeply entrenched in the program and culture for years.  The guys you listed are just a random assortment of hired guns who came to Oklahoma to collect a paycheck.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 28, 2025, 07:53:25 PMManatees handle anxiety and stress quite well if the situation isn't life threatening.  Again, this is a species that should never be mocked or ridiculed.  They adapt and perform their daily routines calmly.  They're basically sea Newfoundlands or St.Bernards, with a little extra weight.
They're fat, slow & dumb, pigs of the seas
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

MuggsyB

Quote from: Newsdreams on November 28, 2025, 08:03:44 PMThey're fat, slow & dumb, pigs of the seas

Pigs are quite intelligent for starters, and Manatees are significantly faster than they look.  They're also naturally heavy as are Walruses. 

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 28, 2025, 08:08:03 PMPigs are quite intelligent for starters, and Manatees are significantly faster than they look.  They're also naturally heavy as are Walruses. 
Manatees are best fried, very delicious, taste like bacon.
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Viper

Quote from: Big Papi on November 28, 2025, 03:32:40 PMIts been a long time since I've written off MU having a chance to make the Big Dance in November.
Dukiet era?
Better dead, than RED

Viper

Quote from: onepost on November 28, 2025, 04:00:42 PMLook who killed us today:
- Pack: transfer 6th year senior
- Reid: transfer sophomore
- Davis: transfer senior
- Nwanko: transfer senior
Helen Keller agrees
Better dead, than RED

Viper

Better dead, than RED

Billy Hoyle

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Quote from: Viper on November 28, 2025, 08:12:41 PMDukiet era?

Deane's last season, maybe Wojo's first?

And even in those seasons we weren't celebrating moral victories like "we led most of the game."
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

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