Shaka's Response

[Shooter McGavin]

What's a post op indication? Do you mean contraindication? What were his contraindications, and how did he "stretch" them? (I've never heard the term stretch in this context before.)

Ha!  Maybe post op complications? 

[burger]

I don't have time to read this whole crap thread.

You said this.  you said that....Blah....Blah....Blah....

I can't believe you guys can type so much with only "one hand" free in your basements....

Here are the facts.

Tre was a miss......Sean is close to being a miss....We have a young team with little experience..... Our coaching is coaching the same old way with a team that needs different strategies.  We are a 6 win team in the Big East.  Relationships are not going to "float" for long.  Look how far both Seton Hall and Providence have come in one year with the coaching staff adapting.....Time for Shaka to adapt and change some things up.  The basketball team lives like they are top 10 program in amenities and et al.  Being a sub 100 team with a top 15 team investment wise is going to have a very short shelf life.

Happy T-Day.

Shaka gets paid a lot.  Figure it out.  Time to adapt... Or otherwise.....Become Wojo....

Shaka should not kid himself.....MU may be kindler and gentler now......But alumni from the 70's and 80's are "Warriors" and align more with the Al McGuire/Rick Majerus/Kevin O'Neil mode.   We are the silent majority that "has an edge"....This is not the Jesuit school where "rich go to play".....

[Scoop Snoop]

Happy T-Day.

And a Happy T-Day to you too Burger.

Edit: Hey, did you notice that Clark had a nice 8 minutes in the CMU game?

[Uncle Rico]

I don't have time to read this whole crap thread.

You said this.  you said that....Blah....Blah....Blah....

I can't believe you guys can type so much with only "one hand" free in your basements....

Here are the facts.

Tre was a miss......Sean is close to being a miss....We have a young team with little experience..... Our coaching is coaching the same old way with a team that needs different strategies.  We are a 6 win team in the Big East.  Relationships are not going to "float" for long.  Look how far both Seton Hall and Providence have come in one year with the coaching staff adapting.....Time for Shaka to adapt and change some things up.  The basketball team lives like they are top 10 program in amenities and et al.  Being a sub 100 team with a top 15 team investment wise is going to have a very short shelf life.

Happy T-Day.

Shaka gets paid a lot.  Figure it out.  Time to adapt... Or otherwise.....Become Wojo....

Shaka should not kid himself.....MU may be kindler and gentler now......But alumni from the 70's and 80's are "Warriors" and align more with the Al McGuire/Rick Majerus/Kevin O'Neil mode.  We are the silent majority that "has an edge"....This is not the Jesuit school where "rich go to play".....

Sure, Jan

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I don't have time to read this whole crap thread.

You said this.  you said that....Blah....Blah....Blah....

I can't believe you guys can type so much with only "one hand" free in your basements....

Here are the facts.

Tre was a miss......Sean is close to being a miss....We have a young team with little experience..... Our coaching is coaching the same old way with a team that needs different strategies.  We are a 6 win team in the Big East.  Relationships are not going to "float" for long.  Look how far both Seton Hall and Providence have come in one year with the coaching staff adapting.....Time for Shaka to adapt and change some things up.  The basketball team lives like they are top 10 program in amenities and et al.  Being a sub 100 team with a top 15 team investment wise is going to have a very short shelf life.

Happy T-Day.

Shaka gets paid a lot.  Figure it out.  Time to adapt... Or otherwise.....Become Wojo....

Shaka should not kid himself.....MU may be kindler and gentler now......But alumni from the 70's and 80's are "Warriors" and align more with the Al McGuire/Rick Majerus/Kevin O'Neil mode.   We are the silent majority that "has an edge"....This is not the Jesuit school where "rich go to play".....

Curious to hear more about how far Providence has come after 6 games and a 4-2 record. 

[wadesworld]

The basketball team lives like they are top 10 program in amenities and et al.

In what ways? You really think Humphrey Hall is a top 10 accommodation? The Al is nice, but there's a reason they were fundraising for a new practice facility before they started being able to pay players. Almost every high major charters flights. What makes them "live like they are top 10 program in amenities and et al?"

[panda]

What's a post op indication? Do you mean contraindication? What were his contraindications, and how did he "stretch" them? (I've never heard the term stretch in this context before.)

post op indication = after surgery rehab guideline

out of curiosity - what is your typical 0-2 week protocol for a BTB ACL reconstruction on a high level athlete? does it include jumping?

[MU82]

I don't have time to read this whole crap thread.

You said this.  you said that....Blah....Blah....Blah....

I can't believe you guys can type so much with only "one hand" free in your basements....

Here are the facts.

Tre was a miss......Sean is close to being a miss....We have a young team with little experience..... Our coaching is coaching the same old way with a team that needs different strategies.  We are a 6 win team in the Big East.  Relationships are not going to "float" for long.  Look how far both Seton Hall and Providence have come in one year with the coaching staff adapting.....Time for Shaka to adapt and change some things up.  The basketball team lives like they are top 10 program in amenities and et al.  Being a sub 100 team with a top 15 team investment wise is going to have a very short shelf life.

Happy T-Day.

Shaka gets paid a lot.  Figure it out.  Time to adapt... Or otherwise.....Become Wojo....

Shaka should not kid himself.....MU may be kindler and gentler now......But alumni from the 70's and 80's are "Warriors" and align more with the Al McGuire/Rick Majerus/Kevin O'Neil mode.   We are the silent majority that "has an edge"....This is not the Jesuit school where "rich go to play".....

I don't have time to read this whole crap post.

[MUDPT]

post op indication = after surgery rehab guideline

out of curiosity - what is your typical 0-2 week protocol for a BTB ACL reconstruction on a high level athlete? does it include jumping?

In almost 20 years of doing this, I've never heard that term used before.

Anyway, the second part. A lot of questions. Why would you use any other graft on a high level athlete? Is this incident the cause of why he was on crutches forever and his knee was locked in extension?

[panda]

In almost 20 years of doing this, I've never heard that term used before.

Anyway, the second part. A lot of questions. Why would you use any other graft on a high level athlete? Is this incident the cause of why he was on crutches forever and his knee was locked in extension?

Rule 1,2 and 3 of medicine - never stop learning.

I'll repeat since you didn't answer my question and it will help clarify your initial query "He re- tore it playing 2k and had another surgery?" - what is your typical 0-2 week protocol for a BTB ACL reconstruction on a high level athlete? does it include jumping?

To answer the question you presented from my question - some surgeons, not me, are more comfortable harvesting the gracilis and offers less post op anterior knee pain. Some consider the graft to be stiffer as well which in a vacuum I agree with however modern fixation methods allow the same or even greater stiffness with bone plugs and the patellar tendon. Different ways to skin a cat.

[hawk]

It would seem that 1 subpar year every 5 or 6 is tolerable if the next upswing is higher than the prior upswing.  Progress is rarily if ever uniform.  I would agree that Shaka needs to adapt but not just to the portal but to the players he has.  He needs to coach the team he has and not the team he wants.  James,Hamilton, Stevens and Parham are good players.  The futur of MU seems pretty bright to me is Shaka figures it out.

[Scoop Snoop]

It would seem that 1 subpar year every 5 or 6 is tolerable if the next upswing is higher than the prior upswing.  Progress is rarily if ever uniform.  I would agree that Shaka needs to adapt but not just to the portal but to the players he has.  He needs to coach the team he has and not the team he wants.  James,Hamilton, Stevens and Parham are good players.  The future of MU seems pretty bright to me is Shaka figures it out.

Very interesting sentence. It sounds so simple and direct, but I don't think it is. Please explain what the "team he has" is and why he should not turn them into "the team he wants." I'm not trying to give you a hard time. It's an honest question.

[MU82]

Very interesting sentence. It sounds so simple and direct, but I don't think it is. Please explain what the "team he has" is and why he should not turn them into "the team he wants." I'm not trying to give you a hard time. It's an honest question.

I'm not hawk, but I'll throw something out here ...

When I coach, I have an offensive system I like, as well as a full-court press I like to use. They were perfect for the conference-championship (middle school) team I coached. After a couple years as a HS assistant, I returned to MS level, though a far more competitive one. I really wanted that team to use my offense and press, but I learned fairly quickly that the personnel simply couldn't run the press, and they weren't very good at executing the offense, either. So I chucked the press - went with more of an half-court trap - and made numerous changes to the offense. I coached the team I had, not the one I wanted.

I'm interpreting what hawk said, at least in part, to Shaka still running a 3-heavy offense even though we're not a good shooting team, and a defense in which our 5 hedges 40 feet from the hoop even though it has mostly yielded poor results so far this season. Is he coaching the team he wants? Maybe.

[Newsdreams]

Rule 1,2 and 3 of medicine - never stop learning.

I'll repeat since you didn't answer my question and it will help clarify your initial query "He re- tore it playing 2k and had another surgery?" - what is your typical 0-2 week protocol for a BTB ACL reconstruction on a high level athlete? does it include jumping?

To answer the question you presented from my question - some surgeons, not me, are more comfortable harvesting the gracilis and offers less post op anterior knee pain. Some consider the graft to be stiffer as well which in a vacuum I agree with however modern fixation methods allow the same or even greater stiffness with bone plugs and the patellar tendon. Different ways to skin a cat.

Seems AI generated

[Scoop Snoop]

I'm not hawk, but I'll throw something out here ...

When I coach, I have an offensive system I like, as well as a full-court press I like to use. They were perfect for the conference-championship (middle school) team I coached. After a couple years as a HS assistant, I returned to MS level, though a far more competitive one. I really wanted that team to use my offense and press, but I learned fairly quickly that the personnel simply couldn't run the press, and they weren't very good at executing the offense, either. So I chucked the press - went with more of an half-court trap - and made numerous changes to the offense. I coached the team I had, not the one I wanted.

I'm interpreting what hawk said, at least in part, to Shaka still running a 3-heavy offense even though we're not a good shooting team, and a defense in which our 5 hedges 40 feet from the hoop even though it has mostly yielded poor results so far this season. Is he coaching the team he wants? Maybe.

I appreciate your reply, but I think the old "apples and oranges" cliche' comes into play here, in the sense that you did not recruit your team, right? Jim Boeheim had his version of the zone defense that was the foundation of his Syracuse teams, and they played it exceptionally well. He once said that he recruited players who he thought could play defense the way he wanted them to, and added that he would "coach them up" to playing offense if that was necessary.

I remember Al McGuire once saying something along the lines of "I've got horses, so I'm going to let them run."

So... where is Shaka in this "coach the team you have, not the one you want?" Do they need to adapt to what he wants, or does he need to accept them with the talents (or lack thereof) that they have demonstrated? For now, let's try to avoid the answer "somewhere in between the two", even though that may be true. I'm interested in a debate between the two.

[panda]

Seems AI generated

Seems like you don't know ball

[Newsdreams]

Seems like you don't know ball

Bot?

[panda]

Bot?

Have an ounce of faith dreamer

[Newsdreams]

Have an ounce of faith dreamer

An ounce of weed is better, faith is woke

[panda]

An ounce of weed is better, faith is woke

Tell it to St. Peter

[Newsdreams]

Tell it to St. Peter

He was a junkie like major Tom