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Next up: Central Michigan

Marquette
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Marquette vs.
Central Michigan
Date/Time: Nov 22, 2025, 1:00pm
TV: TruTV
Schedule for 2025-26
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Vander Blue Man Group

We have a thread on "Shaka's Mess" but I'm curious to see what his response is in a number of areas. 

While there have obviously been challenges at times during his first 4 seasons, I think most would agree that they're very happy with the results, aside from the earlier than expected exits as 2 seeds. 

This is the first time at Marquette he's faced some real adversity in terms of his approach, the team's performance, the media, the fans, etc. 

For example, I love watching his pressers and interviews.  I didn't see the presser after the Dayton game but it sounds like he may have gotten a little snippy with Ben Steele, which is out of character for him.

Very curious to see what his response will be in terms of:

-Starting lineup:  Will he replace Caedin?  Does Nigel continue to start when Sean comes back?
-Rotation:  He's already tightened that up a bit but will that continue?  Can Owens eventually earn some minutes? Will Stevens play more?  Can Phillips carve out a role if his defense improves?
-Defensive approach: Our man defense has obviously been horrendous.  Will he play more zone?  When in man, will he stop hedging with Ben so far away from the basket?
-Development:  Will anything click with any of the guys we were all hoping to see much more from? Especially Owens & Parham. This will go a long way towards the expectations for next season.
-Interactions with the media: What sounds insightful when you're winning can take on a different tone when you're losing.  Shaka is a smart dude - will we see that accountability, awareness, and introspection if things continue to go poorly.

Looks, this sucks.  No one expected this and I think it's led to some overreactions but many of the concerns are valid based on what we've seen so far. 

What are you looking for out of Shaka the rest of the way?

CountryRoads

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I'll just take it one game at a time. Things I'd like to see tomorrow:

1. Tight rotation with only 8 players getting more than 10 minutes. Our starters need as many possible minutes on the court together. I have no interest in seeing Clark, Phillips, etc get extended run at this point. I don't want hockey line changes with random lineups.
2. Minimal press. We could get 50 deflections against this garbage team tomorrow but it's a waste of time. Less Gold 40 feet from the basket even if it would work against this cupcake.
3. Hamilton loses his starting spot. Shaka needs to drop his weird mission of "trying to prove people wrong" with him (reference last press conference). It's throwing things out of whack. The closer he goes to 0 minutes, the better we'll be and things will look more normal.

Scoop Snoop

Agree with just about all of CountryRoads, but I think Clark should be given a chance to show what he can do while Hamilton watches from the bench. I'm NOT talking starter-just a few minutes here and there. It's worth a try, and a cupcake game is the time to take the chance. To be clear, I do not have high hopes that Clark will shine, but stranger things have happened.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 05:36:54 PMAgree with just about all of CountryRoads, but I think Clark should be given a chance to show what he can do while Hamilton watches from the bench. I'm NOT talking starter-just a few minutes here and there. It's worth a try, and a cupcake game is the time to take the chance. To be clear, I do not have high hopes that Clark will shine, but stranger things have happened.

I think we can agree Clark has a higher upside due to his size and more years of eligibility.  I'm more than fine carrying him to see what he can be as a junior and senior. 

The staff's talent evaluation and development worked so well with the recent core.  Yes, some were Wojo recruits and transfers but Shaka had to identify or re-recruit and development all that talent. 

That wasn't just luck but did the staff get a little high on their own supply after all of that success? 

Have their been some blinders on with the current roster based on what happened previously? 

panda

I've said it in another thread and I'll say it again here - if I'm Royce parham and Caedin Hamilton keep starting over me, I'm high tailing it straight out of town at the end of the year. Boost up parham and let Clark acquaint himself with the pine. 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: panda on Today at 05:51:05 PMI've said it in another thread and I'll say it again here - if I'm Royce parham and Caedin Hamilton keep starting over me, I'm high tailing it straight out of town at the end of the year. Boost up parham and let Clark acquaint himself with the pine. 

Parham is playing more MPG. 

I think he should be starting, too, but he's getting minutes and has not been particularly good. 

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 06:09:18 PMParham is playing more MPG. 

I think he should be starting, too, but he's getting minutes and has not been particularly good. 

There just seems to be more upside with Parham.  So I think Shaka should continue to give him more minutes.

Could Caedin be used for offensive sets down on the block? Play him 5-10 minutes a game and run some plays for him? I know that's not Shaka's style but he does look like he has a couple moves. 

MU82

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 06:09:18 PMParham is playing more MPG. 

I think he should be starting, too, but he's getting minutes and has not been particularly good. 

Parham has played at crunch time, too. The only time Caedin did was when Gold was hurt.
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wadesworld

Hire onepost as GM would be the start. If he's unwilling to do that, let's find someone who will use all the resources at his disposal to do this job. MUBB is above missing the NCAA Tournament.

Markusquette

Light a fire under these guys and tell them to stop playing timid (yeah, easier said than done). Hand the keys to James to run the offense as a full time starter. He'll be the best player on the team next year if Shaka doesn't enter the portal. Jones can be a spark plug off the bench when he comes back.

Keep Gold around the basket more on both ends. We need work the ball into the paint more to break up the stagnant offense that is so reliant on Chase. Unfortunate reality is all of the big men don't look too capable in the low post right now. Would like to see more aggression from Lowery offensively.

For the short term...more Stevens, less Norman. I still want to know if one of Owens or Phillips can offer something, because MU will need to rely on depth.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 06:09:18 PMParham is playing more MPG. 

I think he should be starting, too, but he's getting minutes and has not been particularly good. 

"Not been particularly good" is a euphemism for abysmal.  He has to get his act together, and that goes for Caedin as well if he's on the floor.  We should be seeing a much higher level of intensity from both of them, especially defensively and on the glass.  Parham is absolutely capable.  He simply must wake up.

Farley36

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 04:57:30 PMWe have a thread on "Shaka's Mess" but I'm curious to see what his response is in a number of areas. 

While there have obviously been challenges at times during his first 4 seasons, I think most would agree that they're very happy with the results, aside from the earlier than expected exits as 2 seeds. 

This is the first time at Marquette he's faced some real adversity in terms of his approach, the team's performance, the media, the fans, etc. 

For example, I love watching his pressers and interviews.  I didn't see the presser after the Dayton game but it sounds like he may have gotten a little snippy with Ben Steele, which is out of character for him.

Very curious to see what his response will be in terms of:

-Starting lineup:  Will he replace Caedin?  Does Nigel continue to start when Sean comes back?
-Rotation:  He's already tightened that up a bit but will that continue?  Can Owens eventually earn some minutes? Will Stevens play more?  Can Phillips carve out a role if his defense improves?
-Defensive approach: Our man defense has obviously been horrendous.  Will he play more zone?  When in man, will he stop hedging with Ben so far away from the basket?
-Development:  Will anything click with any of the guys we were all hoping to see much more from? Especially Owens & Parham. This will go a long way towards the expectations for next season.
-Interactions with the media: What sounds insightful when you're winning can take on a different tone when you're losing.  Shaka is a smart dude - will we see that accountability, awareness, and introspection if things continue to go poorly.

Looks, this sucks.  No one expected this and I think it's led to some overreactions but many of the concerns are valid based on what we've seen so far. 

What are you looking for out of Shaka the rest of the way?


No one expected this?  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Everyone who's not a giant homer man baby expected this.

PointWarrior

" He'll be the best player on the team next year if Shaka doesn't enter the portal."

and as long as James does not enter the portal...

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Farley36 on Today at 06:50:42 PMNo one expected this?  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Everyone who's not a giant homer man baby expected this.

Thank you for your insightful response, Fartley69.

Markusquette

Quote from: PointWarrior on Today at 06:55:40 PM" He'll be the best player on the team next year if Shaka doesn't enter the portal."

and as long as James does not enter the portal...

Would be surprised given the opportunity he has to play here.

panda

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 06:09:18 PMParham is playing more MPG. 

I think he should be starting, too, but he's getting minutes and has not been particularly good. 

Starting is entirely different mentality, in a positive way. Every undeserved superlative thrown at Hamilton is an insult to parham. Need to encourage parham and Clark, not Hamilton.

panda

Quote from: Farley36 on Today at 06:50:42 PMNo one expected this?  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Everyone who's not a giant homer man baby expected this.

Trust me - not many people expected this team to be poor. I gave my opinion last year and was almost crucified when I said Sean was going to struggle after two years off, Hamilton has no business on this roster, chase is going to struggle in a lead role and Ben wouldn't develop into anything more than what he already is.

MU82

Quote from: PointWarrior on Today at 06:55:40 PM" He'll be the best player on the team next year if Shaka doesn't enter the portal."

and as long as James does not enter the portal...

Shaka has never lost a rotation player to the portal. Why would his starting PG, who has been handed the keys to the offense, enter the portal?
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panda

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 07:41:30 PMShaka has never lost a rotation player to the portal. Why would his starting PG, who has been handed the keys to the offense, enter the portal?

The v part of rgv

MU82

Quote from: panda on Today at 07:46:58 PMThe v part of rgv

I guess he'll transfer to the same school Sean did after last season.
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