Shaka’s mess

[Uncle Rico]

Right. Just think what would have happened if Mary Magdalene would have become an accountant.

Shudders at the thought. We'd probably have seen broads knees in public a lot earlier in history. 

[GoldenWarrior11]

I am bracing for the reality that this might very well be Shaka's worst season (W/L-wise) in his career (he went 11-22 at Texas in his second year).  It could very well also be the worst Marquette season since the 80's (right now, we are projected to be 13-15, and 10-10 in BE play (I have seen nothing from the first six games that would lead me to believe that we should project for ten wins in conference play). 

As we continue to dissect and over analyze the metrics and deficiencies of this team, another evaluation question for the staff to ponder is why did we not schedule lighter in non-con (if there was the significant drop off in talent from last year)?  I guess it answers itself by the intentional decision to not enter the transfer portal and run it back with the group from last year (that also did not show much in the way projected difference makers). 

Would have loved to replace the Indiana and Oklahoma games as one-offs.  Dayton, Maryland and Purdue would the second part of home/homes.  I guess, to nit-pick, did we really need another two high-major games after Wisconsin, Purdue and Maryland (won't include Dayton in that group, despite them beating us twice)?

[The Sultan]

I am bracing for the reality that this might very well be Shaka's worst season (W/L-wise) in his career (he went 11-22 at Texas in his second year).  It could very well also be the worst Marquette season since the 80's (right now, we are projected to be 13-15, and 10-10 in BE play (I have seen nothing from the first six games that would lead me to believe that we should project for ten wins in conference play). 

As we continue to dissect and over analyze the metrics and deficiencies of this team, another evaluation question for the staff to ponder is why did we not schedule lighter in non-con (if there was the significant drop off in talent from last year)?  I guess it answers itself by the intentional decision to not enter the transfer portal and run it back with the group from last year (that also did not show much in the way projected difference makers). 

Would have loved to replace the Indiana and Oklahoma games as one-offs.  Dayton, Maryland and Purdue would the second part of home/homes.  I guess, to nit-pick, did we really need another two high-major games after Wisconsin, Purdue and Maryland (won't include Dayton in that group, despite them beating us twice)?

Oh hell no. Play a tough schedule regardless. Don't dumb down the season.

[cheebs09]

It's not like this was a crazy tough schedule. Purdue and Wisconsin are good. Are Maryland and Dayton even bubble teams?

[CountryRoads]

Oh hell no. Play a tough schedule regardless. Don't dumb down the season.

Agree. No interest in 8 buy games. Sooner or later, the flaws of this team were going to be exposed. May as well happen in the first two weeks.

[Uncle Rico]

Oh hell no. Play a tough schedule regardless. Don't dumb down the season.

Good thing we're afraid to play UWM or this year would have been a problem

[WhiteTrash]

It's not like this was a crazy tough schedule. Purdue and Wisconsin are good. Are Maryland, IU and Dayton even bubble teams?

[NCMUFan]

The Scoop Mushrooms.

[onepost]

Sorry but you are wrong.

We have a shot at an at-large bid. If you want me to make a prediction, I would guess the odds are pretty heavy we don't get one. But to claim the season is over and we have no chance is factually wrong.

Remember that my initial response on this is to someone who thinks we should tear off redshirts and play the young guys because the season is "over." Six games in!!!

Hilarious you think this team has ANY shot at being in the at-large conversation.
Are we even watching the same sport?? What are you smoking?

[onepost]

But that's not what onepost et. al. were aruging. They were arguing that Shaka should remove the redshirts and play the young guys because the season is over and we need to see if they can play. The implication is that some of the better players would have their time cut for the sake of the younger players.

Nowhere am I saying guys like Chase, Ben, Zaide should not be playing as many minutes as they deserve.  I'm embarrassed I have to even clarify that.  What I'm saying is that now is the time to see what you have and get the young guys as much game experience as you possibly can.  Otherwise next season is gonna be even worse than this dumpster fire.

And to reiterate, nowhere did I say Sheek should get a redshirt pulled.  He's 100 pounds soaking wet and moved up a class (the main reason Marquette was able to land him), so of course he needs the season to get stronger.  I'm saying we need to find out if Damarius, Michael, Josh can cut it here.  If Damarius continues to be a complete disaster against good teams despite extended PT, time to move on rather than keep him on this team and waste a scholarship.

[NCMUFan]

Good thing we're afraid to play UWM or this year would have been a problem

If Rico says it, I have to believe it.

[The Sultan]

Hilarious you think this team has ANY shot at being in the at-large conversation.
Are we even watching the same sport?? What are you smoking?

Of course they have a shot. Do I think they will?  Likely not, but to claim they don't have a shot after six games is a loser's mentality.

[The Sultan]

Nowhere am I saying guys like Chase, Ben, Zaide should not be playing as many minutes as they deserve.  I'm embarrassed I have to even clarify that.  What I'm saying is that now is the time to see what you have and get the young guys as much game experience as you possibly can.  Otherwise next season is gonna be even worse than this dumpster fire.

How do you get young guys "as much game experience as you possibly can," without playing Chase, Ben and Zaide "as many minutes as they deserve?" Are you suggesting 6 on 5?

You are just saying sh*t that doesn't make any sense and isn't how any coach thinks.

[onepost]

Of course they have a shot. Do I think they will?  Likely not, but to claim they don't have a shot after six games is a loser's mentality.

I would argue a loser's mentality is being ok with this product when today's landscape allows you to be good every single season.

A loser's mentality, in my opinion, is accepting this plan and realizing we won't be a true contending team until 2027-2028.

[The Sultan]

I would argue a loser's mentality is being ok with this product when today's landscape allows you to be good every single season.

A loser's mentality, in my opinion, is accepting this plan and realizing we won't be a true contending team until 2027-2028.

Agreed with the first sentence.

Regarding the second, what choice to I have other than to "accept this plan?" I guess I could just not watch, but I'm not a season ticket holder, so...what...write a sternly worded letter?

[onepost]

How do you get young guys "as much game experience as you possibly can," without playing Chase, Ben and Zaide "as many minutes as they deserve?" Are you suggesting 6 on 5?

You are just saying sh*t that doesn't make any sense and isn't how any coach thinks.

The two are not mutually exclusive.  Good God, I forgot how literal this board takes everything.
Play the younger guys more minutes to get them game reps and see how they fit: literally all I'm saying.

[onepost]

Agreed with the first sentence.

Regarding the second, what choice to I have other than to "accept this plan?" I guess I could just not watch, but I'm not a season ticket holder, so...what...write a sternly worded letter?

Yeah at the end of the day, the second point is where my annoying bitching and moaning comes from.
I find Shaka's plan unacceptable at a school like Marquette.  And I'm yelling to the void since none of us have any influence to change it.

[The Sultan]

The two are not mutually exclusive.  Good God, I forgot how literal this board takes everything.
Play the younger guys more minutes to get them game reps and see how they fit: literally all I'm saying.

You are saying two things that are indeed mutually exclusive. But I guess you don't understand that...

[onepost]

You are saying two things that are indeed mutually exclusive. But I guess you don't understand that...

I understand that.  I guess that's easier than saying "don't play Sean, Caedin, or Tre any more minutes since I don't believe they deserve to play/can stay healthy enough to play meaningful minutes for Marquette".

[MU82]

I would argue a loser's mentality is being ok with this product when today's landscape allows you to be good every single season.

A loser's mentality, in my opinion, is accepting this plan and realizing we won't be a true contending team until 2027-2028.

Who is "accepting" anything? What do you want any of us to do about it?

If it's OK with you, I'm gonna keep watching our games this season. I'm even making the long trip to go to a couple games in January. I'll pull for the team. I'll get frustrated plenty, as has already been the case. Hopefully there also will be some good things that give me more hope. The other option - just not watching or caring - isn't an option for me.

[NCMUFan]

Sure we are all MU fans.
This is what fans do.

[Hards Alumni]

Folks who are upset, the boat has left the port.  We sail with who we have this year.

No amount of bitching on this board changes that.  In fact, no amount of bitching on this board changes anything, period.

[panda]

Folks who are upset, the boat has left the port.  We sail with who we have this year.

No amount of bitching on this board changes that.  In fact, no amount of bitching on this board changes anything, period.

What about all of the hilarious jokes geeko makes? Does that change anything?

[onepost]

Who is "accepting" anything? What do you want any of us to do about it?

The people just shrugging off a terrible season with no stakes and buying into a model that will leave us even worse next season. That's what I take issue with.

Nothing! Literally what is the point of a message board then? Nothing we say matters anyway so what's the point in saying it at all?

[Uncle Rico]

The people just shrugging off a terrible season with no stakes and buying into a model that will leave us even worse next season. That's what I take issue with.

Nothing! Literally what is the point of a message board then? Nothing we say matters anyway so what's the point in saying it at all?

Apathy is worse than bitching.  When apathy sets in, then the program is truly in trouble.  Negative passion isn't always helpful or good but people caring because they want to see better results beats apathy.