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Next up: Central Michigan

Marquette
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Marquette vs.
Central Michigan
Date/Time: Nov 22, 2025, 1:00pm
TV: TruTV
Schedule for 2025-26
Dayton
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 06:54:42 AMWe seem to have fundamental flaws on both ends.

Offensively, we prioritize threes, but haven't developed shooters. We're taking over 43% of our shots from deep but hitting just 31.2%. in 2022-24, the shooting came around in conference play, but last year it didn't and it's hard to see where it improves this year.

Beyond that, the ball movement and maybe more important off ball movement isn't enough to create looks. At the rim, we're making just 58.4% of our shots. That's 166th nationally. Where's the big man pick & roll, the back door cuts, the other actions that made this offense successful? L'Etang took away so much at the rim and we kept driving, hoping the next wild shot would find its way over and in.

Defensively, Dayton was a poor shooting team but we left them wide open, rarely fighting over screens effectively. What use is a weekly Jrue Holiday award if no one will go over a screen? We're not forcing teams deep into the shot clock.

And for the love of god, challenge shots! We've played three non-cupcake opponents. Our eFG% allowed is 60.6% (IU), 60.0% (MD), and 60.2% (Dayton). Giving up 60+ eFG every time you play an opponent with a pulse is a recipe for disaster.

The passes don't come quick enough.  The offense is this:  drive until you're stuck, then jump pass or plant, spin, and pass.  There is no secondary cutting or motion.  Four Marquette guys standing around waiting for the outlet pass.  Every defender sees it coming.  Help defense down low and let Marquette shoot threes all day because they can't make them.

It's very basic to defend against Marquette right now because the offense is about as dynamic as the three man weave.

The Sultan

Quote from: DoctorV on November 19, 2025, 09:28:47 PM9) You know it's gotten bad when you're begging for a freshman in overtime. Ben gets hurt, best play is to go small with Parham at the 5 and Adrien in a small lineup. That's on the staff, and the lack of growth/improvement in the offseason.

This is what I was hoping for. Caedin just isn't a top level post player. He has developed some decent moves on offense, but defensively...oy.  Maybe a 10 minute change of pace guy at best.

BTW, putting in a zone was a smart coaching move, but it also is exactly opposite from how Shaka likes to defend. He has no choice though because the rotations right now are terrible.
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Viper

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 19, 2025, 09:47:14 PM5 & 6 are true for sure.

Ben tweaking his ankle at end of regulation probably led to Hamilto being out there in OT.
Agree 13 would have been the better call.

The saddest thing, to me, is that despite this display of ineptitude by multiple people Owens couldn't get a sniff. I was really optimistic that with him healthy we'd see a player.
thought the same re: Owens. 3 mins of PT. Curious what he's not doing in practice that Shaka needs to see change/improve to get more run time
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The Sultan

Quote from: Viper on Today at 07:59:50 AMthought the same re: Owens. 3 mins of PT. Curious what he's not doing in practice that Shaka needs to see change/improve to get more run time

Defensively he's pretty bad.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 08:07:10 AMDefensively he's pretty bad.

He's also extremely careless with the ball.  He also tries to force points every time he gets the ball.

MU Fan in Connecticut

After having time to digest, other than the freshman, this team for the most part are players who have been role players or subs for the last 3 years.  They seem to still have the same mentality and are waiting for Kam or Tyler or Oso or Jop or Stevie to bail them out of a play. 

brewcity77

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on Today at 10:00:22 AMAfter having time to digest, other than the freshman, this team for the most part are players who have been role players or subs for the last 3 years.  They seem to still have the same mentality and are waiting for Kam or Tyler or Oso or Jop or Stevie to bail them out of a play. 

Jop was at the game last night and I was desperately hoping they'd find a way to get him in.

Nukem2

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on Today at 10:00:22 AMAfter having time to digest, other than the freshman, this team for the most part are players who have been role players or subs for the last 3 years.  They seem to still have the same mentality and are waiting for Kam or Tyler or Oso or Jop or Stevie to bail them out of a play. 
Yep, Nigel seems to be the only one who could be an alpha, but he is just getting his feet wet as a frosh.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Nightmares returned from watching the Knegele Knight game.

wadesworld

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 19, 2025, 11:20:30 PMI find it cringe worthy because I genuinely want Shaka to be the guy long term and I don't know that he'll get the time necessary to survive bad years. People have the expectation of winning around here, and rightfully so. This program has so much that others don't. It should be a winner.

When we were rolling it was so much fun and I'm not sure why he is limiting himself so much with his roster construction. The growth mindset still works with transfers. You can still have great relationships with transfers. It's ok that he's not winning right now, that happens, but he's just capping his potential so much. I really think he has what it takes to dominate both the high school recruiting and the portal. He has that ability.

Sure.  Shaka has not won here and Marquette prior to Shaka is immune to down years.  Let's move on.  Unfortunate situation as Shaka is likeable, but his results here aren't good enough for this fanbase.

::)

Winning should be expected here.  Shaka has done a lot of that here.  He clearly didn't do a good enough job of putting together the roster, and the team is not coached well enough this year.  If this fanbase wants to move on from him because of this year then we'll I'm not sure where we turn for our next coach.  We aren't Kentucky, UNC, Duke, etc.  Any decent coach is going to look at Marquette and be like, "Shaka took a program that hadn't won a Tourney game in a decade, won a BE regular season and Tournament title, went to 4 straight Tournaments, had the program's 2 best seeds ever, and with one bad year the fanbase wants him gone?  Yeah, I'll stay where I am, thank you."

All of this said, not sure what any of that has to do with his answers being "cringe worthy."

wadesworld

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 10:05:04 AMJop was at the game last night and I was desperately hoping they'd find a way to get him in.

With college rules these days, might as well have just put him in.  Anybody can play.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 10:31:24 AMSure.  Shaka has not won here and Marquette prior to Shaka is immune to down years.  Let's move on.  Unfortunate situation as Shaka is likeable, but his results here aren't good enough for this fanbase.

::)

Winning should be expected here.  Shaka has done a lot of that here.  He clearly didn't do a good enough job of putting together the roster, and the team is not coached well enough this year.  If this fanbase wants to move on from him because of this year then we'll I'm not sure where we turn for our next coach.  We aren't Kentucky, UNC, Duke, etc.  Any decent coach is going to look at Marquette and be like, "Shaka took a program that hadn't won a Tourney game in a decade, won a BE regular season and Tournament title, went to 4 straight Tournaments, had the program's 2 best seeds ever, and with one bad year the fanbase wants him gone?  Yeah, I'll stay where I am, thank you."

All of this said, not sure what any of that has to do with his answers being "cringe worthy."

We are falling back towards the middle of this conference and he is doubling down on a philosophy that is outdated and clearly not working. I cringed because his comments make it seem like he has 0 room for adjustment of his plan. I'm rooting for him to be right on this, but it is hard to see that being the case.
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MUbiz

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 10:42:48 AMWe are falling back towards the middle of this conference and he is doubling down on a philosophy that is outdated and clearly not working. I cringed because his comments make it seem like he has 0 room for adjustment of his plan. I'm rooting for him to be right on this, but it is hard to see that being the case.

Falling back into the middle of this conference - which is one of the weakest BE conference seasons that I can remember. Not good.

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