Redshirts

[Its DJOver]

Sean's not coming back and scoring 20ppg. Ive said this all of the past year.

Everyone remembers Sean with rose colored glasses, he was never THAT guy. He was a 5'8 defensive guy with speed. Now hes a 5'8 guy without speed.

I know one guy that thought that he should have been #unleashed.

[#UnleashNigel]

I know one guy that thought that he should have been #unleashed.

Im on the Nigel train now!

[MU82]

If the staff determined Phillips was the more college ready and his shooting isn't getting him in, Miletic isn't dropping a redshirt to get into games. And Nash isn't even here yet.

If there are answers on this roster, it's from the guys we've already seen on the floor.

This. If Shaka can't even find a few minutes here or there for Phillips, who has beautiful shooting form and already has swished several 3s in garbage/limited time, then obviously Miletic isn't ready.

At this point, I'd give Phillips the few minutes now going to Owens. He can't be much worse defensively, and he at least has a chance to bust a zone.

[Jay Bee]

At this point, I'd give Phillips the few minutes now going to Owens. He can't be much worse defensively

Well......

[CountryRoads]

I think all of the redshirts make sense individually. Just a bit unsettling to me to have 3 of them on a team that is not exactly trending upwards to say the least. Could have been more valuable to add a player on this team that could help on the court and just having 2 of those guys join next year. The jury is still out on how much value there really is on getting guys here a year early.

[MU82]

Well......

Yeah, I absolutely could be wrong, though the sample size isn't enough to really say. Shaka only gave Owens 3 minutes last night, so it's not as if the coach is bursting with confidence about D.O.'s ability to contribute on either end of the court.

[Jay Bee]

Yeah, I absolutely could be wrong, though the sample size isn't enough to really say. Shaka only gave Owens 3 minutes last night, so it's not as if the coach is bursting with confidence about D.O.'s ability to contribute on either end of the court.

To be clear, I'd love to find a way to get MP some minutes, but the defense is just so rough. I think this year it's either (a) a foul or (b) blow by waiting to happen... maybe there's a way to hide him, in a zone or something, but it's rough going right now. I think in a year or two he can be fine and I want the shooting.. but the cost on the other side of the ball is too high right now.

[brewcity77]

I know it's three redshirts once Nash arrives, but it's probably more accurate to think of it as 2 & an empty scholarship. A foreign freshman arriving in January is about as likely to play as Joey was when he came early to rehab.

[MU82]

To be clear, I'd love to find a way to get MP some minutes, but the defense is just so rough. I think this year it's either (a) a foul or (b) blow by waiting to happen... maybe there's a way to hide him, in a zone or something, but it's rough going right now. I think in a year or two he can be fine and I want the shooting.. but the cost on the other side of the ball is too high right now.

Reasonable.

[Nukem2]

I know it's three redshirts once Nash arrives, but it's probably more accurate to think of it as 2 & an empty scholarship. A foreign freshman arriving in January is about as likely to play as Joey was when he came early to rehab.

One could dream that his long range sniping will look so good that Shaka will need him to play right away. But, the stuff of dreams.........

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I know it's three redshirts once Nash arrives, but it's probably more accurate to think of it as 2 & an empty scholarship. A foreign freshman arriving in January is about as likely to play as Joey was when he came early to rehab.

Shaka essentially used the two extra roster spots on Sheek and Nash.

And Sheek should still be a senior in HS. He's here to get a much needed year in the weight room.

Nash and Sheek will line up with their regular recruiting class, but with a bit of a head start.

[willie warrior]

If Miletic could make a difference he wouldn't be redshirting. Shaka can't possibly be that dumb

Are some of the other guys really making a difference?

[brewcity77]

Are some of the other guys really making a difference?

Should we just start pulling fans out of the audience to see if they can be more effective?

Clearly this isn't good, no one is really happy with where things stand, but we haven't hit rock bottom. There is lower than this. Wojo's first year, Shaka's 11-22 season at Texas, the Piano Man, DePaul's last two decades, etc.

[CountryRoads]

Missing the tournament is a failed season to me. I don't care how bad it gets after that. Probably actually worse to finish 17-14 or whatever as it may lead to the staff just thinking they can run back again with the same group.

[onepost]

My only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette.  Shaka has a habit of keeping guys in the program who have no business keeping a scholarship at this level for 2 and 3 years (Ellis, Amadou, Itejere, Norman, Hamilton).

We know Nigel, Adrien, and Royce (very discouraged by his lack of development, though) are core pieces going forward.  So the fact that we're gonna be playing for nothing meaningful, postseason-wise, the rest of this season I want to know if Damarius, Michael, Josh, and Ian are good enough to play at Marquette.  But we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.

[GoldenEagles03]

My only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette.  Shaka has a habit of keeping guys in the program who have no business keeping a scholarship at this level for 2 and 3 years (Ellis, Amadou, Itejere, Norman, Hamilton).

We know Nigel, Adrien, and Royce (very discouraged by his lack of development, though) are core pieces going forward.  So the fact that we're gonna be playing for nothing meaningful, postseason-wise, the rest of this season I want to know if Damarius, Michael, Josh, and Ian are good enough to play at Marquette.  But we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.

Hate to break it to you, but the likelihood of them all being back is greater than the likelihood of them not.

[Scoop Snoop]

My only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette.  Shaka has a habit of keeping guys in the program who have no business keeping a scholarship at this level for 2 and 3 years (Ellis, Amadou, Itejere, Norman, Hamilton).

We know Nigel, Adrien, and Royce (very discouraged by his lack of development, though) are core pieces going forward.  So the fact that we're gonna be playing for nothing meaningful, postseason-wise, the rest of this season I want to know if Damarius, Michael, Josh, and Ian are good enough to play at Marquette.  But we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.

You really should review your posts before hitting the button and edit out comments like the bolded. It's laughable that you state that you want redshirts pulled...because WHY?         As if your approval is needed?

[wadesworld]

But we'll continue to trot out Caedin, Tre, Sean for extended minutes instead so it doesn't matter what I want.

Do you really expect for what you want to matter?

[onepost]

You really should review your posts before hitting the button and edit out comments like the bolded. It's laughable that you state that you want redshirts pulled...because WHY?         As if your approval is needed?

Where did I state MY approval is needed?  The staff holding on to bad players who get no playing time is a big reason we absolutely suck.  Seeing what upside our younger players have can expedite their decision-making rather than having a roster where half the players should be playing at a mid or low major.

[onepost]

Do you really expect for what you want to matter?

We're on a unnatural carnal knowledgeing message board.  I'm simply giving my thoughts, Semantics Sammy.

[The Sultan]

My only point in suggesting Ian alone pulling a redshirt is that I would like to get a sense of which underclassmen belong at Marquette. 

So you think Shaka should pull Ian's redshirt because of your curiosity?

[MU82]

I guess it's ok to say unnatural carnal knowledgeing now. That's cool, it's a useful word. Motherunnatural carnal knowledgeing is even better. K.O. would be so proud of us!

I just hope Shaka checks out this motherunnatural carnal knowledgeing thread so he knows which players onepost wants to see the rest of the unnatural carnal knowledgeing season and which ones he wants Shaka to cut.

[onepost]

So you think Shaka should pull Ian's redshirt because of your curiosity?

I see Creighton pulling Hudson Greer's redshirt one game after announcing it and he came in to get 7 rebounds and 4 assists.  So I guess I want to see our young players play a lot of minutes since we aren't playing for tournament hopes this year.

[onepost]

I just hope Shaka checks out this motherunnatural carnal knowledgeing thread so he knows which players onepost wants to see the rest of the unnatural carnal knowledgeing season and which ones he wants Shaka to cut.

Shaka could learn a thing or unnatural carnal knowledgeing two from this board!  But humility can be a motherunnatural carnal knowledgeer.

[onepost]

They changed it back! Boooooooooo