Let's talk defense

[goldeneagle91114]

not sure if this was shared already:

https://painttouches.com/2025/11/17/whats-up-with-marquettes-defense-and-other-notes/

[Galway Eagle]

Caedin is not a D1 player. Offense, defense, rebounding.

I think this overestimates the quality you may see at a place like Chicago State

[The Sultan]

not sure if this was shared already:

https://painttouches.com/2025/11/17/whats-up-with-marquettes-defense-and-other-notes/

There is a whole topic about it.

[BM1090]

Caedin is not a D1 player. Offense, defense, rebounding.

Seems like a great guy with a great attitude, but playing a level too high.

He's absolutely a D1 player. He may not be a major guy though.

[Jockey]

not sure if this was shared already:

https://painttouches.com/2025/11/17/whats-up-with-marquettes-defense-and-other-notes/

Caedin & Clark are big reasons why. Parham isn't much better on D. That leaves Gold as our only decent defender over 6'5". Hard to stop teams at the rim with this.

[Jay Bee]

Shaka 2 zone so MP can play

[GoFastAndWin]

Josh Clark's capacity to learn on the job, and be able to block shots consistently, will determine whether Shaka can stick with the agressive/gambling overplaying perimeter D. It's a fun brand of basketball to watch, but only if and when there's an interior firewall. Imagine this team with a McIlvaine in the middle. Would lead the country in steals and blocks. We can dream.

[Jay Bee]

will determine whether Shaka can stick with the agressive/gambling overplaying perimeter D.

Maybe they can try an aggressive style instead?

[Jockey]

Josh Clark's capacity to learn on the job, and be able to block shots consistently, will determine whether Shaka can stick with the agressive/gambling overplaying perimeter D. It's a fun brand of basketball to watch, but only if and when there's an interior firewall. Imagine this team with a McIlvaine in the middle. Would lead the country in steals and blocks. We can dream.

Clark is not a high major player. He will have little effect on the defense.

[GoFastAndWin]

Maybe they can try an aggressive style instead?

Good catch. Lack of commas for my redundancy as well. Bench me for sloppy posting.

[Hards Alumni]

I understand they're trying to build his confidence with these types of statements but the question is why? The talent is non existent and we have players around him who actually know where to stand on the court etc.

The trouble is when the confidence has been built, but the player does not perform to the expectations placed by that confidence.  Eventually, they figure it out and they feel like they've been lied to, or are a let down.  It's a dangerous game.

[panda]

The trouble is when the confidence has been built, but the player does not perform to the expectations placed by that confidence.  Eventually, they figure it out and they feel like they've been lied to, or are a let down.  It's a dangerous game.

Agreed - nothing about it makes much sense.

[BM1090]

Clark is not a high major player. He will have little effect on the defense.

I've seen little to indicate that Clark isn't a high major player. Raw, sure. Inserted too soon out of necessity, yes. But he has had some blocks, dunks, and finishes through five games that we haven't seen from Caedin in 1+ years. I'd be surprised if he wasn't a 4 year contributor and good player down the line.

[MU82]

I've seen little to indicate that Clark isn't a high major player. Raw, sure. Inserted too soon out of necessity, yes. But he has had some blocks, dunks, and finishes through five games that we haven't seen from Caedin in 1+ years. I'd be surprised if he wasn't a 4 year contributor and good player down the line.

Yeah, I don't know if he will or won't be a good player for us ... but completely writing him off already as a wasted scholarship, as some Scoopers have, seems pretty crazy.

Those same folks would've written off Frank Kaminsky, too.

[Newsdreams]

Yeah, I don't know if he will or won't be a good player for us ... but completely writing him off already as a wasted scholarship, as some Scoopers have, seems pretty crazy.

Those same folks would've written off Frank Kaminsky, too.

I remember when they said the same about JFB

[MU82]

I remember when they said the same about JFB

Really? That was before my time on Scoop.

[Shooter McGavin]

JFB was always a hustle guy and had noticeable athleticism who could play defense even in limited minutes his first year.  We tend to remember the fringe scooper opinions and not those of the vast majority.