Hoosier beat down

[Shooter McGavin]

The joke wrote itself


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/awards/men/atlantic-10-roy.html

Ha!  I stand corrected.  Thank you.

[MU82]

He may have, but getting 3 minutes in the first meaningful game wasn't a rousing endorsement.

Kinda knocking on its arse the theory some Scoopers have that Shaka always plays older guys over younger.

Same with Nigel. Shaka wants to win. He'll willingly play freshmen if they are better than the alternative.

[Class71]

All major teams other than Marquette use the portal. Cherry picking the top teams to support your position and ignoring the bottom teams is where I have a problem with your take. There is nothing inherently beneficial in using the portal.

Portal players have a track record and the portal increases the pool of players to choose from. Statistically a larger selection pool and a known track record at the college level is a positive if the scouting is sound. I have no desire to convince anyone here. Believe what you will. It is your choice. Looks like we will have some data points over the coming year or two to see if portal or no portal is a better choice. Shaka is potentially betting his career path. Far more than I.

[MU82]

Portal players have a track record and the portal increases the pool of players to choose from. Statistically a larger selection pool and a known track record at the college level is a positive if the scouting is sound. I have no desire to convince anyone here. Believe what you will. It is your choice. Looks like we will have some data points over the coming year or two to see if portal or no portal is a better choice. Shaka is potentially betting his career path. Far more than I.

Lots and lots of P5 transfers come from non-P5 schools, so there is still plenty of reason to wonder if their track records will translate. But certainly some programs have done a good job of analyzing these players and getting good production from those who "transfer up."

[DoctorV]

As others (at least @DoctorV) has said, RGV is a package.  R&G won't continue without the V.  With, or without Shaka (and Duh, I'm talking about more than one year of V problems, of which isn't even certain this year).

There were no V problems tonight

[DoctorV]

It's exhausting, because we have had these discussions ad nauseam about the portal and I always ask, "who?".  The discussion never gets off the ground about "who?", so basically, it's the want Shaka to do something to do something argument and any discussion over who always fizzles.

Shaka should be held accountable for having a team that needs to make baskets to play the way he wants this team to play.  That is on his staff and him.  They can't shoot below average to play as aggressive as it appears he wants them to play on defense. 

The idea the portal is a panacea flies in the face of reality.  There are as many poorly assembled rosters full of transfers as there are good rosters full of transfers.  One bad transfer class and the same people currently blasting this roster would blast that roster.  It's the nature of the beast.

I'm sure Creighton scoop is in free fall this morning and asking questions about McDermott's desire now that he's in retirement mode and about this roster he constructed.  It's the nature of the beast.

Given your posting history I always thought there was something wrong with you...

This is pretty well thought out, however. Color me impressed.
I read it and wondered to myself "who"?

[DoctorV]

I think, lost in all of this is that Tre HAS improved.  Sure, the minutes have been limited, but I think he may have taken a step forward.

Just trying to be positive here.

Yes, he has, and so has fetch.

Hopefully they keep improving to make their 6-12mpg effective.

They work hard and have good attitudes from what it seems, but they just need to star in their roles

[Newsdreams]

Given your posting history I always thought there was something wrong with you...

This is pretty well thought out, however. Color me impressed.
I read it and wondered to myself "who"?

You're extremely lost!

[WhiteTrash]

You keep making stuff up, but carry on.

What did I make up? Shaka is as capable as Painter?

Some posters claiming Shaka will not use the portal?

I tried to advance the notion that Shaka would look to the portal, but I was shut down as foolish.

Some here are convinced Shaka is out of the transfer market, some think he is willing to explore that avenue again. I don't know what is true, but the fact is there are people on both sides, which is not made up.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

What did I make up? Shaka is as capable as Painter?

Some posters claiming Shaka will not use the portal?

I tried to advance the notion that Shaka would look to the portal, but I was shut down as foolish.

Some here are convinced Shaka is out of the transfer market, some think he is willing to explore that avenue again. I don't know what is true, but the fact is there are people on both sides, which is not made up.

I don't think anyone is convinced Shaka is out of the transfer market.  I think that group of people, myself included, believe it will only happen under very specific circumstances.

[tower912]

Nobody called you foolish, either.

[WhiteTrash]

Nobody called you foolish, either.

I'm confusing Scoop with my wife and kids. 

[muwarrior69]

My favorite transfers:

For pure immediate impact, it's hard to top Robert Jackson. We desperately needed a center, and he not only filled that need but filled it superbly as one of the important players on a Final Four team.

Kolek obviously exceeded even the loftiest expectations people had for him. I think sometimes folks forget that his first season with Marquette had nearly as many downs as ups - he couldn't shoot, he often suffered from lack of confidence, Shaka had to bench him a couple of times, the general feeling after the season was that we needed better PG play to take the next step. Thankfully, he went on to provide sensational PG play and leadership.

Jamil was a disappointment most of his time at Marquette, but he came through big-time at the end of the Elite Eight season.

Rowsey was fun to watch. He played defense about as well as I would now, but he had stones and a flare for the dramatic.

OMax was a major contributor to a 2-seed.

Morsell brought skill and toughness to Shaka's first team.

Lockett just did his job game after game after game. Scoopers for some reason expected more, especially at first, so they didn't appreciate how reliable and tough he was.

Reinhardt came through in the upset of Nova, and he was always willing to take the big shot. It was only one season, but he really seemed to like being at MU.

My favorite Transfer:

Jerome Whitehead, If he did not make that final basket in the semi-finals, no Natty.