Hoosier beat down

[Daniel]

There literally was no D today.    Frustrating.  We have given up 235 points in three games.    Yikes. 

[We R Final Four]

Where is DO?

Looks like a frosh.

[Jay Bee]

Why was our 3fga/fga % so low when playing from behind most of the game? Staff. o confident? ugh

[tower912]

Where is DO?

Looks like a frosh.

That is one of the issues.

[SonOfWarrior]

It will be interesting to see who is going to be the leader on this team. So far, no one has taken over.

[1SE]

It's really sad to see someone who spent so much time working to come back play so poorly, but if Sean doesn't figure it out soon I can't imagine there will be much PT in his future.

[Daniel]

It's really sad to see someone who spent so much time working to come back play so poorly, but if Sean doesn't figure it out soon I can't imagine there will be much PT in his future.

I think Shaka will start Sean maybe every game.    Maybe he win stay in long if he does not figure it out, but that's what Shaka will do.  Loyalty.   But so far our point play is helter skelter vs controlled. 

[willie warrior]

As long as we disagree, I feel like I am in a safe space.

Yes, feelings are very important. I feel this team has issues.

[GoldenEagles03]

It's really sad to see someone who spent so much time working to come back play so poorly, but if Sean doesn't figure it out soon I can't imagine there will be much PT in his future.

Who are they going to play instead? Tre?

Sean will have to play out of necessity. Nigel looks very real but he can't go 40. He might not even be able to go 25 this early in his career. He will have his own Freshman growing pains too.

[willie warrior]

As long as we disagree, I feel like I am in a safe space.

Yes feelings are important. I feel this team has big time issues.

[Viper]

Which big word did your BIL not explain to you?

...why the vitriol? I am simply asking why you are optimistic.

[The Equalizer]

Who are they going to play instead? Tre?

Sean will have to play out of necessity. Nigel looks very real but he can't go 40. He might not even be able to go 25 this early in his career. He will have his own Freshman growing pains too.

Dominic James played 32 MPG as a frosh. Tony Miller logged 34 mpg. I don't buy the idea that a freshman can't give us more than 25 mpg. 

[tower912]

I am always optimistic.  It is who I am. 

[Zog from Margo]

Where is DO?

Looks like a frosh.

I think DO needs to show he's physical enough for BE basketball. He's certainly athletic enough.

[Markusquette]

Roster lacks experience and BE level talent. Unless James turns out to be a stud it could be rough given the lack of a true floor general. Kam filled in nicely for Kolek. The senior class is a lot weaker and that trickles down in terms of how the younger guys play.

The big men are as-expected. Gold's a first big off the bench type guy. No hate as he's been doing his thing. Odd that Royce doesn't even start over Hamilton. Really need Sheek to be a big time get for years to come.

Norman continues to be a total non-factor and Lowery has always been streaky. Owens looks lost and unplayable right now.

I think my favorite part of the very young season so far has been Phillips' three straight triples the other night.

[GoldenEagles03]

Roster lacks experience and BE level talent. Unless James turns out to be a stud it could be rough given the lack of a true floor general. Kam filled in nicely for Kolek. The senior class is a lot weaker and that trickles down in terms of how the younger guys play.

The big men are as-expected. Gold's a first big off the bench type guy. No hate as he's been doing his thing. Odd that Royce doesn't even start over Hamilton. Really need Sheek to be a big time get for years to come.

Norman continues to be a total non-factor and Lowery has always been streaky. Owens looks lost and unplayable right now.

I think my favorite part of the very young season so far has been Phillips' three straight triples the other night.

James is already a stud.

[Viper]

I am always optimistic.  It is who I am.

👌solid.

[Johnny B]

Roster lacks experience and BE level talent. Unless James turns out to be a stud it could be rough given the lack of a true floor general. Kam filled in nicely for Kolek. The senior class is a lot weaker and that trickles down in terms of how the younger guys play.

The big men are as-expected. Gold's a first big off the bench type guy. No hate as he's been doing his thing. Odd that Royce doesn't even start over Hamilton. Really need Sheek to be a big time get for years to come.

Norman continues to be a total non-factor and Lowery has always been streaky. Owens looks lost and unplayable right now.

I think my favorite part of the very young season so far has been Phillips' three straight triples the other night.

Surprised Norman is still on this roster tbh. Kind of a blown scholarship. 4 years of being glued to the bench

[cnse70]

Just posted in game thread:

Marquette's continuity roster got its ass kicked by Indiana's portal roster.

Love what Shaka is doing, but today, I have to agree. I was up front and in person for this one and IU looked super connected like they have playing together for years (which of course they haven't).  MU, not so much.  Only one game, but I'm hoping we see MUCH more ball movement going forward. Portal strategy won in this game hands down.  Hopefully, we can win the long match.

[JustinLewisFanClubPres]

Where is DO?

Looks like a frosh.

That is one of the issues.

Yes. He is a liability out there. Selfish on O and doesn't get back on D. And he has the physical tools to be a stud. Hopefully, he can find the maturity needed to excel but he needs a gut check because he doesn't seem upset to be glued to the bench with freshman playing ahead of him.


And, what am I missing re Parham for those who like him? He's a back hole and bad decision maker who looks for himself first and foremost. He made some plays when the game was over but he has irrational confidence in his abilities considering his limited athleticism. He also plays flat footed and has no explosion. Looks like a great rec leaguer.

Sean lacks in all things that a PG should excel in. Gets into the paint without a plan. Doesn't catch the ball ready to shoot. Dribbles too much. And his D close outs were embarrassing today. Where has he gotten better while sitting out for two years? Did he bother to talk to Tyler at all about how to control tempo and an offense?

Shaka needs a better offensive coach on the bench. You can only give NBA level control to players with NBA level abilities. And we had none of those. So in game coaching matters all the more and unfortunately that is Shaka's biggest weakness. It pains me to say it because I love Shaka and his approach and want it to work. But that was Game 2 with a wholly new roster for Devries and IU and they made us look like we don't belong.

[nyg]

Like someone said the portal guys beat the culture guys.  They had Larry Bird in first half and a Steph Curry in second. Add in about five lob passes to bigs for dunks and game over.

The offense is just not good right now.  It consists of Jones or Ross dribbling around the perimeter.  Not your typical Shaka offense of live or die from three, only took 16.  Almost 40% of their 77 points came from the free throw line and the 10 total assists to IU's 27 is not good.

Big turnaround came when Nigel James was taken out of game with MU up 24-22.  He was playing great.  Jones came in and IU went on 8-0 run with Jones missed three, turnover and another drive in lane blocked.  After that, lead went to 18 and it was done.

MU I thought much better offense with James on floor not Jones.  Each played 20 minutes:
Jones zero points, 3 assists
James 16 points, 3 assists, 2 steals.


Thought Hamilton was most improved, but turnovers, ugh
Norman, Clark, and Owens at end of rotation as of now, maybe 2 minutes each half.  A high recruit, Owens I guess under performing with Stevens clearly ahead of him.
See how Shaka adjusts after a stinker.  Long season

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Who are they going to play instead? Tre?

Sean will have to play out of necessity. Nigel looks very real but he can't go 40. He might not even be able to go 25 this early in his career. He will have his own Freshman growing pains too.

Sean, like Derrick of yesteryear, would be a good back up, capable of 10-12 minutes a game. James looks significantly better IMO. Start him, let Jones sub in.

[GoldenEagles03]

Sean, like Derrick of yesteryear, would be a good back up, capable of 10-12 minutes a game. James looks significantly better IMO. Start him, let Jones sub in.

Ya. I'm fine with that, but Sean's still gonna play.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Some of our fans are truly the worst but I suppose that's true for every team. 

Maybe it make make sense to see how this and next year (that's right) progress before losing your sh*t.