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rocky_warrior

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 30, 2025, 10:22:34 PMCreighton moves to 3-0 in conference play. I guess they're not as bad as we are

I noticed you didn't highlight the "PC & X are showing improvement.  I think Creighton will too." part.

McDermott has made adjustments.  Marquette is clearly the worst in the big east.  Every other team at least plays hard every game.

Billy Hoyle

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Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 30, 2025, 10:28:11 PMI noticed you didn't highlight the "PC & X are showing improvement.  I think Creighton will too." part.

McDermott has made adjustments.  Marquette is clearly the worst in the big east.  Every other team at least plays hard every game.

I only mentioned Creighton because I had just finished watching their game. It wasn't as much your post (I was not calling you out, sorry if it came off that way) but the conventional wisdom of the board that CU was going to be awful.

X has improved from what we thought they would be when this post was made, when some here had them in the 0-20 DePaul zone. I have not seen PC play this season so I can't speak to them
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MU82

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 30, 2025, 10:28:11 PMMarquette is clearly the worst in the big east.  Every other team at least plays hard every game.

Didn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?

Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 11:24:20 AMDidn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?

Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.

For sure they played hard for much of the game.  But not all of it.  And really, the key in my original quote was "every game".  Many times chase just stands around hoping others will create.  I shouldn't single out Chase, it really goes for the entire team.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 11:24:20 AMDidn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?

Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.

Playing hard for AT LEAST 40 minutes a night is the bare minimum need for winning teams. It's very hard to do, but it's the bare minimum.

I thought we improved in that area last night but still wasn't a full 40 and the scoreboard showed it in the end.
VIOLENCE!

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 11:24:20 AMDidn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?

Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.
I am no expert and could be totally wrong, but especially in the 1st half there seemed to be lot of lazy passing by SH that past MU teams would have turned into easy baskets. Maybe its a talent issue but could also be an effort issue.

Nukem2

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 31, 2025, 11:51:33 AMFor sure they played hard for much of the game.  But not all of it.  And really, the key in my original quote was "every game".  Many times chase just stands around hoping others will create.  I shouldn't single out Chase, it really goes for the entire team.
Think some of that dates back to the last 2 seasons when Tyko, Oso, Kam, Jop and Stevie were the alphas and the the others were late options in the offense. Kind of a carryover?

PointWarrior

Yeah, we played hard last night.

Maybe we will start playing good as well.


Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 11:24:20 AMDidn't you think Marquette played hard last night? During which stretches did our players just coast?

Not trying to just nitpick. I seriously thought we played pretty hard, but I allow that I might have missed something.

Billy Hoyle

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Quote from: PointWarrior on December 31, 2025, 01:22:03 PMYeah, we played hard last night.

Maybe we will start playing good as well.



The last 7 minutes were hard to watch.
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Markusquette

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 31, 2025, 12:01:28 PMPlaying hard for AT LEAST 40 minutes a night is the bare minimum need for winning teams. It's very hard to do, but it's the bare minimum.

I thought we improved in that area last night but still wasn't a full 40 and the scoreboard showed it in the end.

Some stacked teams can give a half-assed effort and still win a lot. With MU's lack of talent, they need to be right on point for almost the entire game.

MU82

Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 31, 2025, 11:51:33 AMFor sure they played hard for much of the game.  But not all of it.  And really, the key in my original quote was "every game".  Many times chase just stands around hoping others will create.  I shouldn't single out Chase, it really goes for the entire team.

Thanks for the response.

I am usually pretty critical of what I see as slacking off or not giving full effort, and I can't think of any instances of guys not playing hard last night. Or even in most other games. But it's certainly possible I missed some examples.

Mostly, I just think we're not good enough, from our coach this season down to our 11th man.
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: MU82 on December 31, 2025, 08:07:09 PMI am usually pretty critical of what I see as slacking off or not giving full effort, and I can't think of any instances of guys not playing hard last night. Or even in most other games. But it's certainly possible I missed some examples.

I've been focusing more on offensive effort (than I usually would) because we've been so awful.

Billy Hoyle

Butler once again learning Big East play is no joke. Nova looking legit, they could be the third team from the BE in the Dance
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MuggsyB


Billy Hoyle

St John's melts down at MSG against Providence. They have no go to scorer other than Zuby in the post. No creators. Nova will the the second BE team in the tourney, not the third.
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BM1090

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 03, 2026, 01:35:57 PMSt John's melts down at MSG against Providence. They have no go to scorer other than Zuby in the post. No creators. Nova will the the second BE team in the tourney, not the third.

Willard is a good coach. Not great. Doubt he ever makes a final four. But he has his vision and philosophy and sticks with it, and it's usually pretty effective.

Nukem2

Quote from: BM1090 on January 03, 2026, 01:55:17 PMWillard is a good coach. Not great. Doubt he ever makes a final four. But he has his vision and philosophy and sticks with it, and it's usually pretty effective.
??   Willard is at Nova.

BM1090

Quote from: Nukem2 on January 03, 2026, 02:10:29 PM??   Willard is at Nova.

I know. The post I quoted was about Nova being the 2nd or 3rd best team in the BE

Nukem2

Quote from: BM1090 on January 03, 2026, 02:11:32 PMI know. The post I quoted was about Nova being the 2nd or 3rd best team in the BE
Read too fast. Focused on St. john's game

nyg

Meltdown at home not the word.
 
Zuby goes for 33 and 15, but leaves 9 points at the free throw line. Can't wait for Hamilton, Parham matchup.....

Three starters shoot 7 for 44 from the field.  Not good, but have seen that from another team recently.


MU82

With the wins by Providence and DePaul, our alma mater is now the only winless team in the Big East.

But that changes tomorrow!
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on January 03, 2026, 04:13:51 PMWith the wins by Providence and DePaul, our alma mater is now the only winless team in the Big East.

But that changes tomorrow!
Penalty:This is an optimistic free zone. >:(

MU82

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2026, 04:24:03 PMPenalty:This is an optimistic free zone. >:(

I admit - more sarcasm than optimism.

Still, upsets do happen. Seton Hall beat UConn last season. Providence just won at MSG.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on January 03, 2026, 04:29:40 PMI admit - more sarcasm than optimism.

Still, upsets do happen. Seton Hall beat UConn last season. Providence just won at MSG.
45% 3pts, 55% from the field is maybe enough to overcome not playing defense?

MuggsyB

Having watched a few mins of XU/DePaul, it sure looks we're the worst team in our conference.  Our best chances for W's will be against those two teams at home, but I can't say I'm super confident that will happen.  My guess is our ceiling is 4-16.....but astonishingly our floor is 0-20 unless we see a resurrection.  :(

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