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18thandWells

If you would have told me ten years ago Kyle Schwarber would be signing $150M contracts, I'd be very surprised.

wadesworld

Quote from: 18thandWells on Today at 10:44:49 AMIf you would have told me ten years ago Kyle Schwarber would be signing $150M contracts, I'd be very surprised.

How about if I told you the Dodgers' weak bullpen just added the best closer in baseball (that isn't in the middle of a gambling scandal) without giving up a single prospect from their #1 farm system in baseball?  Believable?

18thandWells

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 10:51:35 AMHow about if I told you the Dodgers' weak bullpen just added the best closer in baseball (that isn't in the middle of a gambling scandal) without giving up a single prospect from their #1 farm system in baseball?  Believable?
1.) I'm sorry the Brewers scored 4 runs in the NLCS. The World Series was incredible; maybe try to make that your lasting memories of the '25 playoffs?
2.) Why did the Dodgers have a weak bullpen last year? They recently get rich?
3.) That is a hell of a parenthetical.

MU82

I saw this:

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 10:38:36 AMHuh.

And this:

Quote from: 18thandWells on Today at 10:44:49 AMIf you would have told me ten years ago Kyle Schwarber would be signing $150M contracts, I'd be very surprised.

... and I did a Google search of Schwarber Dodgers, thinking he had signed with L.A.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: 18thandWells on Today at 10:44:49 AMIf you would have told me ten years ago Kyle Schwarber would be signing $150M contracts, I'd be very surprised.

10 years ago?  That was his rookie year in 2015.  He was absolutely showing flashes and he was great in the playoffs.  And then coming back from injury in 2016, he raked in the WS.  He had all the makings of a potential slugging star.

Now in 5 years ago in 2020 before the Cubs traded him?  Sure.  He was not playing great.  But even still, given what he did in 2018-2019, most Cubs fans were sad to see him go cause he was still in short of his prime and had so much potential.

I don't think I ever expected him to finish second in the MVP race like he did last year, but given the premium the league has put on 3 outcome hitting, him getting a big payday never seemed that crazy.

MUBurrow

Saw yesterday that NYY and NYM both inquired on Trevor Megill's availability.  I think Megill is the coolest and would hate to see him dealt, but based on the Diaz and Williams deals, the price looks higher today than it would have a couple weeks ago.

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 10:51:35 AMHow about if I told you the Dodgers' weak bullpen just added the best closer in baseball (that isn't in the middle of a gambling scandal) without giving up a single prospect from their #1 farm system in baseball?  Believable?

Good to see a team that reinvests its revenues into the ballclub.

wadesworld

#133
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 12:22:59 PMGood to see a team that reinvests its revenues into the ballclub.

The Cardinals were 15th in revenue in 2024, dead center of the 30 teams.  If the Dodgers reinvested, say, 47.4% of their revenue back into their payroll (which is what the Twins, at 15th in Payroll/Revenue, "reinvest"), the Cardinals would have to reinvest 95.6% of it's revenue to have the same payroll.

Or, put another way, if the Cardinals reinvested the same 73% of their revenue that the Dodgers do, their payroll would still have been $276.7MM behind the Dodgers' 2025 payroll.

Nothing wrong with the system at all.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 10:51:35 AMHow about if I told you the Dodgers' weak bullpen just added the best closer in baseball (that isn't in the middle of a gambling scandal) without giving up a single prospect from their #1 farm system in baseball?  Believable?

Makes me hate the Dodgers even more. 

18thandWells

Signing with LA for only $3M more, I think Edwin just wanted to leave.


Pakuni

#136
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 02:09:50 PMThe Cardinals were 15th in revenue in 2024, dead center of the 30 teams.  If the Dodgers reinvested, say, 47.4% of their revenue back into their payroll (which is what the Twins, at 15th in Payroll/Revenue, "reinvest"), the Cardinals would have to reinvest 95.6% of it's revenue to have the same payroll.

Or, put another way, if the Cardinals reinvested the same 73% of their revenue that the Dodgers do, their payroll would still have been $276.7MM behind the Dodgers' 2025 payroll.

Nothing wrong with the system at all.

Per Forbes, the Dodgers operating income was $21 million in 2024, good for 13th in MLB.
You know who made more?
The Brewers at $24 million.
Reds, $29 million
Tigers, $30 million
Rays, $32 million
Marlins, $38 million
Pirates, $47 million

When small market teams stop raking in profits that exceed those of the world champs, I'll take their cries of poor more seriously. Most of these teams receive far more via revenue sharing than they invest in payroll.
I'm not opposed to additional revenue sharing, but some of these teams aren't using the revenue they already get on payroll. What makes you think that would change with more?
MLB should be more interested in getting the frugal teams to spend more than putting restrictions on the big spenders.

As for the Cardinals, maybe they need to put a better product on the field. Their yearly attendance has dropped by more than a million over the past decade while their payroll has remained largely stagnant. Perhaps there's a correlation?





MU82

The Schwarber contract gives the players' union yet another argument against a salary cap. Numerous teams - including the Pirates! - were competing to throw outrageous sums of money at a DH, and he ended up getting a humongous contract that will take him into his late 30s.

The money is there, as is the willingness to spend it. What incentive do the players have to help protect the owners from each other?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

I had a muted ten minute sabbatical quietly watching Roch Cholowsky YouTube clips just now.

GB Warrior

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 04:17:56 PMThe Schwarber contract gives the players' union yet another argument against a salary cap. Numerous teams - including the Pirates! - were competing to throw outrageous sums of money at a DH, and he ended up getting a humongous contract that will take him into his late 30s.

The money is there, as is the willingness to spend it. What incentive do the players have to help protect the owners from each other?

Just a devastating loss that Schwarber didn't want to go to Pittsburgh for 3 years/$300,000

Pakuni

#140
Quote from: Dish on Today at 05:08:30 PMI had a muted ten minute sabbatical quietly watching Roch Cholowsky YouTube clips just now.

Can we celebrate?
I think Roch is the strongest lock for 1-1 since Rutschman, but then again, this time a year ago it was definitely going to be Ethan Holliday or Jace Laviolette.
Assuming he's the pick (or Emerson, for that matter) that loads up the system with four high-end shortstops/prospects under 24. Interesting to see who moves positions and/or is dealt. Guessing Montgomery moves to third, Bonemer to the outfield and Carlson gets traded.

Pakuni


Dish

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 05:20:38 PMCan we celebrate?
I think Roch is the strongest lock for 1-1 since Rutschman, but then again, this time a year ago it was definitely going to be Ethan Holliday or Jace Laviolette.
Assuming he's the pick (or Emerson, for that matter) that loads up the system with four high-end shortstops 24 and under. Interesting to see who moves positions and/or is dealt. Guessing Montgomery moves to third, Bonemer to the outfield and Carlson gets traded.

It'd be a good problem to have with having too many great SS prospects. With no disrespect to Meidroth, I wonder if they would move Carlson to 2B.

Roch/both Montgomery's/Carlson/Bonemer/Teel/Quero is a heck of a core moving forward.

Pakuni

Quote from: Dish on Today at 05:47:28 PMIt'd be a good problem to have with having too many great SS prospects. With no disrespect to Meidroth, I wonder if they would move Carlson to 2B.

Roch/both Montgomery's/Carlson/Bonemer/Teel/Quero is a heck of a core moving forward.

I think he definitely could play second (probably Bonemer as well), but I'm wondering that with his one elite tool being his glove, he might have more value for another team at short, and get the Sox a decent return.
Either way, you're right ... good problem to have.

18thandWells

White Sox are hoping to draft "the next Andrew Vaughn."

WhiteTrash

Thank you Pope Leo.

Love, White Sox Fans

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