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Uncle Rico

#25
November 03, 2025, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2025, 03:55:01 PMThen you would love "The Game". It's about Baseball's power brokers - centering on Selig, Steinbrenner, and Don Fehr.



Read it.  Not as big a fan of this as Lords of the Realm but it covers the ground post LOTR very well.  Little too much Steinbrenner genuflecting but the history from '94 on behind the scenes is dominated by him in many ways, it fits
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

Jockey

#26
November 03, 2025, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 03, 2025, 04:00:57 PMRead it.  Not as big a fan of this as Lords of the Realm but it covers the ground post LOTR very well.  Little too much Steinbrenner genuflecting but the history from '94 on behind the scenes is dominated by him in many ways, it fits

I'll check out LOTR.

tower912

#27
November 03, 2025, 04:32:38 PM
Tolkien did a heckuva job.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

wadesworld

#28
November 03, 2025, 04:54:35 PM
Woody opts out of his deal and is a FA. Wonder if the Dodgers give him more than the $20MM option to come out of the pen for them.

Jockey

#29
November 03, 2025, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2025, 04:32:38 PMTolkien did a heckuva job.

Hobbits absolutely love baseball.

18thandWells

#30
November 03, 2025, 06:38:55 PM Last Edit: November 03, 2025, 06:53:16 PM by 18thandWells
Quote from: wadesworld on November 03, 2025, 04:54:35 PMWoody opts out of his deal and is a FA. Wonder if the Dodgers give him more than the $20MM option to come out of the pen for them.
He's the only Brewer that can hit postseason Dodger pitching.

ChuckyChip

#31
November 04, 2025, 06:46:26 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on November 03, 2025, 04:54:35 PMWoody opts out of his deal and is a FA. Wonder if the Dodgers give him more than the $20MM option to come out of the pen for them.

His option had a $10M buyout, so he only needs $10.1M to come out ahead.

The Sultan

#32
November 04, 2025, 07:50:50 AM
Quote from: ChuckyChip on November 04, 2025, 06:46:26 AMHis option had a $10M buyout, so he only needs $10.1M to come out ahead.

Right. Seems like a no-brainer move for him.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

#33
November 04, 2025, 08:09:38 AM
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

#35
November 04, 2025, 08:40:59 AM
They are making money with their model.   Spending money to make money.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

The Sultan

#36
November 04, 2025, 08:43:49 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 04, 2025, 08:36:33 AMBut the Dodgers are bad for baseball.


Yeah, I think its pretty obvious that dynasties are actually good for sports. Like it or not, people tune into the Dodgers. They tuned in to the Yankees during their run. They tuned in to the Bulls. They tune in to the Chiefs.

It's cool when the field is leveled so other fanbases can get involved, but as far as a large national audience, the dynasty is what draws in the casuals.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

#37
November 04, 2025, 08:51:14 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 04, 2025, 08:36:33 AMBut the Dodgers are bad for baseball.

How much did the Dodgers pay you for this snark?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

#38
November 04, 2025, 08:53:12 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on November 04, 2025, 08:43:49 AMYeah, I think its pretty obvious that dynasties are actually good for sports. Like it or not, people tune into the Dodgers. They tuned in to the Yankees during their run. They tuned in to the Bulls. They tune in to the Chiefs.

It's cool when the field is leveled so other fanbases can get involved, but as far as a large national audience, the dynasty is what draws in the casuals.

That's why I want them to win 4-5 in a row
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

Pakuni

#39
November 04, 2025, 09:12:11 AM
Quote from: MU82 on November 04, 2025, 08:51:14 AMHow much did the Dodgers pay you for this snark?

$5 today, but I'll get $10 million a year starting in 2035.

MU82

#40
November 04, 2025, 09:51:31 AM
For comparison sake ... The NBA Finals, despite a strong showing for Game 7, averaged just 10.3 million viewers this year.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

#41
November 04, 2025, 11:04:00 AM
It helps that the entire state of Canada was watching their Jays.

wadesworld

#42
November 04, 2025, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 04, 2025, 08:36:33 AMBut the Dodgers are bad for baseball.

Said nobody.

No salary cap is absurd.

Pakuni

#43
November 04, 2025, 11:35:54 AM Last Edit: November 04, 2025, 11:39:59 AM by Pakuni
Quote from: wadesworld on November 04, 2025, 11:17:29 AMSaid nobody.

A fan poll published in The Athletic last month:

Are the Dodgers, as the modern-day villain, good or bad for baseball?
Good for baseball - 28.4%
Bad for baseball - 55.2%
No opinion - 16.4%

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6744388/2025/10/24/mlb-world-series-dodgers-poll-blue-jays/

QuoteNo salary cap is absurd.

No salary floor is more absurd.

wadesworld

#44
November 04, 2025, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 04, 2025, 11:35:54 AMA fan poll published in The Athletic last week:

Are the Dodgers, as the modern-day villain, good or bad for baseball?
Good for baseball - 28.4%
Bad for baseball - 55.2%
No opinion - 16.4%

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6744388/2025/10/24/mlb-world-series-dodgers-poll-blue-jays/

No salary floor is more absurd.

Fair enough on the Athletic.  I agree on the salary floor.  That would obviously come if a cap was ever implemented.

Billy Hoyle

#46
November 04, 2025, 01:06:28 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 04, 2025, 11:35:54 AMA fan poll published in The Athletic last month:

Are the Dodgers, as the modern-day villain, good or bad for baseball?
Good for baseball - 28.4%
Bad for baseball - 55.2%
No opinion - 16.4%

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6744388/2025/10/24/mlb-world-series-dodgers-poll-blue-jays/

No salary floor is more absurd.

I don't think the Dodgers are "bad" for Baseball. Hell, the Jays should be the champs, not LA. If they were "bad for baseball," then they would have swept through every series and not needed a 9th inning HR off a gas can closer to save their season.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

jficke13

#47
November 04, 2025, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 03, 2025, 09:07:08 AMWill Brewers fans complain about other teams spending while their team only spends 40% of their revenue?

Curiously the most consistent complaint among my very wide circle of Brewers fan friends/family is that the Brewers don't spend enough, not that the Dodgers spend too much.

Pakuni

#48
November 04, 2025, 01:17:37 PM
Quote from: jficke13 on November 04, 2025, 01:10:50 PMCuriously the most consistent complaint among my very wide circle of Brewers fan friends/family is that the Brewers don't spend enough, not that the Dodgers spend too much.

Yeah, I know some Pirates fans and they're not worried about the Yankees or Dodgers stealing Skenes, they're worried about ownership being too cheap to pay him and giving him away like Gerrit Cole.

WhiteTrash

#49
November 04, 2025, 01:42:03 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on November 04, 2025, 01:17:37 PMYeah, I know some Pirates fans and they're not worried about the Yankees or Dodgers stealing Skenes, they're worried about ownership being too cheap to pay him and giving him away like Gerrit Cole.
And quite frankly, this whole amateur draft is silly too. Let the teams bid for the talent they want and let the chips fall where they may.
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