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Mr. Nielsen

Friday, November 21

Butler vs South Carolina - 1:00 p.m. (CBSSN)
Jack Benjamin & Anne O'Neil

Greenbrier Tip-Off • White Sulphur Springs, W. Va.
Line: Butler  -1.5/154.5

Xavier vs Georgia - 8:00 p.m. (ESPN2)
John Schriffen & Scott Williams

Shriners Children's Charleston Classic in Charleston, S.C
Line: Georgia-10.5/164
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Mr. Nielsen

Saturday, November 22

Wagner at Georgetown - 11am (ESPN+)
Jeremy Huber and Martin Bahar
Line: Georgetown -23.5/137

Central Michigan at Marquette - 2:00 p.m. (truTV, HBO Max)
Brian Anderson, Grant Hill and Lauren Jbara
Line: Marquette -21.5/152

Penn State vs Providence - 4:00 p.m. (truTV, HBO Max)
Mohegan Sun, Connecticut
Brandon Gaudin, Robbie Hummel and Gared Greenberg
Line: Providence -4.5/160
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Mr. Nielsen

Sunday, November 23

Butler vs Virginia, 1pm (CBSSN)
Greenbriar Tip-Off final
Jack Benjamin & Anne O'Neil
Line: Virginia -6.5/154

West Virginia vs Xavier, 2:30pm (ESPN)
Charleston Classic
John Schriffen and Scott Williams
Line: West Virginia -6.5/140

Bryant at 3 Connecticut, 5pm (TruTV)
Brendan Glashenn, Steve Smith and Jahmni Webster
Line: Connecticut  -37.5/143

Detroit at DePaul, 5pm (ESPN+)
Evan Stockton and Jerel McNeal
Line: DePaul  -18.5/147
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

wadesworld

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on November 22, 2025, 09:18:41 PMSunday, November 23

Butler vs Virginia, 1pm (CBSSN)
Greenbriar Tip-Off final
Line: Virginia -6.5/154

West Virginia vs Xavier, 2:30pm (ESPN)
Charleston Classic
John Schriffen and Scott Williams
Line: West Virginia -6.5/140

Bryant at 3 Connecticut, 5pm (TruTV)
Brendan Glashenn, Steve Smith and Jahmni Webster
Line: Connecticut  -37.5/143

Detroit at DePaul, 5pm (ESPN+)
Evan Stockton and Jerel McNeal
Line: DePaul  -18.5/147

But Butler took a transfer. How are they not a favorite here?

Mr. Nielsen

Monday, November 24

Creighton vs Baylor - 1:00 p.m. (truTV, HBO Max)
Players Era, Las Vegas
Brian Anderson, Grant Hill and Lauren Jbara
Line: Baylor  -4.5/153

25 NC State vs Seton Hall - 1:30 p.m. (ESPN2)
Maui Invitational
Dan Shulman & Jay Bilas
Line: NC State  -10.5/143

14 St. John's vs 16 Iowa State - 3:30 p.m. (truTV, HBO Max)
Players Era, Las Vegas
Brian Anderson, Grant Hill and Lauren Jbara
Line: Iowa State  -1.5/160.5
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-Bill Walton

Mr. Nielsen

#30
Tuesday, November 25

Creighton vs 15 Iowa State - 1:00 p.m. (truTV, HBO Max)
J.B. Long, Candace Parker and Autumn Johnson
Line: Iowa State  -9.5/150

14 St. John's vs Baylor - 3:30 p.m. (truTV, HBO Max)
JB Long, Candace Parker and Autumn Johnson
Line: St. John's  -5.5/162

Seton Hall vs USC - 4:00 p.m. (ESPN)
Maui Invitational
Dan Shulman and Jay Bilas
Line: USC -7.5/147

Old Dominion at Villanova - 6:00 p.m. (ESPN+)
Matt Martucci and Phil Martelli
Line: Villanova  -20.5/145
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-Bill Walton

wadesworld

Lots of coaches who actually want to win that take in transfers taking losses and being underdogs in our conference.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on November 25, 2025, 10:11:24 AMLots of coaches who actually want to win that take in transfers taking losses and being underdogs in our conference.

Well aren't you selling out on hyperbole today...

wadesworld


The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on November 25, 2025, 11:20:44 AMJust what I've heard here.

No. You are knowingly and repeatedly exaggerating the point.
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wadesworld

Quote from: The Sultan on November 25, 2025, 02:05:26 PMNo. You are knowingly and repeatedly exaggerating the point.

Sure.  But multiple posters have brought up Creighton as the example that Shaka should be modeling his program after and/or wondering why Creighton can figure this era out while Marquette can't.

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on November 25, 2025, 02:54:03 PMSure.  But multiple posters have brought up Creighton as the example that Shaka should be modeling his program after and/or wondering why Creighton can figure this era out while Marquette can't.

Who are these multiple posters?

wadesworld

#37
Quote from: Pakuni on November 25, 2025, 03:45:44 PMWho are these multiple posters?

Maybe if I have a couple hours to go through all the threads I'll find them for you, but you're honestly saying that you didn't read posts lamenting how Creighton can land big time transfers when Dix and Freeman committed there this summer when Marquette can't, questioning how Creighton is able to compete with Marquette in terms of NIL money, or saying that UCONN, SJU, and Creighton have separated themselves from the rest of the Big East and there's no reason we can't at least be Creighton?  Maybe if you were a relatively infrequent poster here who just stops by after games or once in a while, but I can't imagine you missed all of that.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on November 25, 2025, 03:59:05 PMUCONN, SJU, and Creighton

You seem to have taken it very personally.  In the case of UConn & SJU, it appears true.  Creighton may or may not be significantly better than MU this year.

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on November 25, 2025, 03:59:05 PMMaybe if I have a couple hours to go through all the threads I'll find them for you, but you're honestly saying that you didn't read posts lamenting how Creighton can land big time transfers when Dix and Freeman committed there this summer when Marquette can't, questioning how Creighton is able to compete with Marquette in terms of NIL money, or saying that UCONN, SJU, and Creighton have separated themselves from the rest of the Big East and there's no reason we can't at least be Creighton?  Maybe if you were a relatively infrequent poster here who just stops by after games or once in a while, but I can't imagine you missed all of that.

Oh, I've seen plenty of posts suggesting that MU should be able to compete financially with Creighton. I've probably said that. And I think that's true .... MU can compete in the transfer market with the majority of programs on its level, and chooses not to.
But you wrote that multiple posters want Shaka to model his program after Creighton, and I'm not sure that's true. I think almost nobody here wants see significant roster turnover every year. Some of us just want to see Shaka take advantage of all available avenues to improve the team, and it's clear he refuses to do that. He's getting lost in the fight ... with one arm tied behind his back.

The usual retort here is something along the lines of "he never said he won't ever take transfers." And while that may be true, actions speak louder than words. He had the makings of team that could have made a deep tourney run last year with a little more depth at the point and in the post, but he chose not to add that depth and wore his team into the ground. He went into this season with an obviously flawed team (my kingdom for a shooter!), but chose not to address those flaws. Maybe this year's struggles force him to change, but it's pretty clear he's shut the door on the portal as a tool.

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on November 25, 2025, 04:18:53 PMOh, I've seen plenty of posts suggesting that MU should be able to compete financially with Creighton. I've probably said that. And I think that's true .... MU can compete in the transfer market with the majority of programs on its level, and chooses not to.
But you wrote that multiple posters want Shaka to model his program after Creighton, and I'm not sure that's true. I think almost nobody here wants see significant roster turnover every year. Some of us just want to see Shaka take advantage of all available avenues to improve the team, and it's clear he refuses to do that. He's getting lost in the fight ... with one arm tied behind his back.

The usual retort here is something along the lines of "he never said he won't ever take transfers." And while that may be true, actions speak louder than words. He had the makings of team that could have made a deep tourney run last year with a little more depth at the point and in the post, but he chose not to add that depth and wore his team into the ground. He went into this season with an obviously flawed team (my kingdom for a shooter!), but chose not to address those flaws. Maybe this year's struggles force him to change, but it's pretty clear he's shut the door on the portal as a tool.

The rest of the italicized remark was and/or wondering why Creighton can figure this era out while Marquette cannot.

I don't disagree with most of what you are saying.  Shaka went all in on recruit, retain, develop.  It worked for the first four seasons (and yes, 2 of his crown jewels were transfers he brought in in year one).  He thought it would work for year five.  He misread his roster.  I trust that the guy who has been a very good college basketball coach for a long time will continue to be one.  Will that be by bringing in transfers?  Maybe, maybe not.  Will it be by upping the talent of high school kids he recruits?  Maybe, maybe not.  But I believe that Shaka will figure this thing out.  Probably not as quickly as Scoopers want, but I trust he will.

MU82

Looking at the last two posts, I'd say lots of Scoopers (maybe even most?) agree with what both Pak and wades are saying. I know I do.
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Mr. Nielsen

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Wednesday, November 26

Seton Hall vs Washington State- 4:30pm (ESPN2)
Maui Invitational
Dan Shulman and Jay Bilas

14 St. John's vs 21 Auburn - 7:00pm (TruTV)
Players Era
Brandon Gaudin and Robbie Hummel, Nabil Karim
Line: St. John's  -5.5/167
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Mr. Nielsen

Happy Thanksgiving !
Thursday, November 27th

Oregon vs Creighton- 1:00pm (TruTV)
Players Era
Brandon Gaudin, Robbie Hummel and Jared Greenberg
Line: Oregon -1.5/155

Wisconsin vs Providence- 4:30pm (FS1)
Rudy's Children's Invitational, San Diego
Cory Provus and Donny Marshall
Line:

Dayton vs Georgetown - 6:30pm (ESPN2)
ESPN Invitational, Orlando
Rich Hollenberg and Fran Fraschilla
Line: Georgetown  -1.5/147
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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Mr. Nielsen

#44
Friday, November 28

13 Illinois vs 5 UConn - 11:30 a.m. (FOX)
MSG, New York
Kenny Albert and Steve Smith
Line: Connecticut  -2.5/155

Wright State at Butler - 1:00 p.m. (ESPN+)
Greg Rakestraw & Joey Brunk
Line: Butler  -14.5/152

Oklahoma vs Marquette - 1:00 p.m. (NBC, Peacock)
John Fanta, Nick Bahe and Cayleigh Griffing
Line: Oklahoma  -2.5/161.5

Providence vs 10 Florida- 2:00pm (FOX)
Rudy's Children's Invitational, San Diego
Cory Provus and Donny Marshall

Texas A&M-Corpus Christi at Xavier - 4:30 p.m. (ESPN+)
Paul Fritschner and Steve Wolf
Line: Xavier  -

DePaul vs Georgia Tech - 6:00 p.m. (CBSSN)
Emerald Coast Classic
Alex De Barrio and Mike O'Donnell
Line: DePaul  -1.5/146

Georgetown vs Miami (Fla.) - 6:00pm (ESPN)
Orlando Invitational
Rich Hollenberg and Fran Fraschilla
Line: Miami -4.5/154

If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on November 25, 2025, 04:28:29 PMLooking at the last two posts, I'd say lots of Scoopers (maybe even most?) agree with what both Pak and wades are saying. I know I do.

Strange that this ended up in the scheduling thread, but...here we are.

There's a lot of good points in both posts. Shaka has chosen his path and, no matter how loud and frequently scoopers scream that he HAS go to the portal, he has not taken the advice from scoop as onepost stated that maybe he should. As if he could do so in the middle of the season, right? ::) He may , at the end of this season, go to the portal but I really, really hope it is not because he is relying upon scoop to guide him. If so, we are SO screwed!

A few points:

1) Instead of COLE this year, we have COPS-the Cult of Portal Strategists-who are totally obsessed with the portal and Shaka's decision to not use it.

2) In the pre portal days, coaches like Boeheim, Bennet, and others had their own versions of RGV and Bennett won a natty in 2019, so it can work. There may have been transfers, but if so, they came the "old way"-sit on the bench and lose a year of eligibility, so please...it was not a portal hybrid.

3) While Shaka's system is not inherently flawed, his current players have not shown anywhere near the promise we/he hoped for, and he was the one who chose them.

I'm really not sure what the COPS hope to accomplish, beating the subject of the portal like a dead horse, but of course they have every right to do so. ::) I cannot help but wonder if some are at least subconsciously enjoying the team's struggles because it validates them.

It is probably only a matter of time before a guy in Austin who bought up the remaining inventory of "Fire Shaka" T shirts for 50 cents a pop ships 3-4 pallets to Milwaukee where easily impressionable students will snap them up and wear them to the games.
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 09:13:02 AM"Fire Shaka" T shirts for 50 cents a pop ships 3-4 pallets to Milwaukee where easily impressionable students

If Shaka is smart (hah), next years acronym will be FIRE - Focus, Intensity, Resilience, Execution.  FIRE Shaka shirts for sale...

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