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MU82

Quote from: wadesworld on October 23, 2025, 03:33:40 PMI think Milwaukee exposed him some.  When he was in Portland he had the excuse of never really getting to play on a championship level roster.  Then the Bucks traded a true winner away for him, and the team got significantly worse.  Injuries kept the Bucks from potentially winning titles in 2022 and 2023 (less likely than 2022), and they might have won they title in 2020 if not for the pandemic interrupting the season (they were 52-8 through 60 games that year), plus they very easily could've won the title in 2019 (up 2-0 on Toronto and went to double overtime in game 3).  The Bucks were a much better team with Eric Bledsoe and Jrue Holiday at point guard than they were with Dame.

He's 5'9" and doesn't even try defensively.  When you're that little, you have to at least put in effort.  And the 35 foot side step 3s are awesome when they go in, and shooting them at a 25% or whatever clip is incredible given the difficulty, but that's still a horrendously inefficient possession, and that's how Dame loved to play.

Dame last season was a somewhat quicker version of Rowsey.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: Pakuni on October 23, 2025, 09:52:40 AMWhatever happened to personal responsibility?

I don't disagree with you about personal responsibility.  The problem however is a little different in this case.  When you have apps with easy access, as well as algorithms that can target kids, or even young college players that are making millions in NIL, it's arguably exploitation.  I equate it to Instagram targeting young girls and messing with their self-esteem.

Ironically I listened to the end of this press conference on NBA radio on the way to work.  After the presser concluded, there were two radio adds for online betting companies.  You can't make this up.  Young people are absolutely bombarded with this crap Pakuni.  It's not right and can lead to tremendous emotional destruction, or worse. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 07:10:07 PMI don't disagree with you about personal responsibility.  The problem however is a little different in this case.  When you have apps with easy access, as well as algorithms that can target kids, or even young college players that are making millions in NIL, it's arguably exploitation.  I equate it to Instagram targeting young girls and messing with their self-esteem.

Ironically I listened to the end of this press conference on NBA radio on the way to work.  After the presser concluded, there were two radio adds for online betting companies.  You can't make this up.  Young people are absolutely bombarded with this crap Pakuni.  It's not right and can lead to tremendous emotional destruction, or worse. 

Join me in boycotting the NBa
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

MuggsyB

Wemby was a lot of fun to watch yesterday.  I had a similar skill-set (with better handles) but am a few inches shorter than him.  :)   It sorta looks like he's playing nerf hoop in his basement.  He's a legit 7'4....maybe 7'5. 

Shaka Shart

Quote from: wadesworld on October 23, 2025, 03:33:40 PMI think Milwaukee exposed him some.  When he was in Portland he had the excuse of never really getting to play on a championship level roster.  Then the Bucks traded a true winner away for him, and the team got significantly worse.  Injuries kept the Bucks from potentially winning titles in 2022 and 2023 (less likely than 2022), and they might have won they title in 2020 if not for the pandemic interrupting the season (they were 52-8 through 60 games that year), plus they very easily could've won the title in 2019 (up 2-0 on Toronto and went to double overtime in game 3).  The Bucks were a much better team with Eric Bledsoe and Jrue Holiday at point guard than they were with Dame.

He's 5'9" and doesn't even try defensively.  When you're that little, you have to at least put in effort.  And the 35 foot side step 3s are awesome when they go in, and shooting them at a 25% or whatever clip is incredible given the difficulty, but that's still a horrendously inefficient possession, and that's how Dame loved to play.

Or dame was a very ball dominant player as you allude above and Giannis has taken a much more ball dominant role in recent years with a significantly higher usage rate than dame even before they played together. I don't think dame is as bad as you make him out to be, I think he's just a bad fit to be second fiddle
#BanGBWarrior

wadesworld

Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 23, 2025, 07:33:46 PMOr dame was a very ball dominant player as you allude above and Giannis has taken a much more ball dominant role in recent years with a significantly higher usage rate than dame even before they played together. I don't think dame is as bad as you make him out to be, I think he's just a bad fit to be second fiddle

It was for sure a bad fit, and I agree he's not made to be second fiddle. But I also don't think he's anywhere good enough to be the best player on a title team, like most thought he was prior to coming to Milwaukee.

I think he's a top 75 offensive player, but in my opinion, I don't see him being a top 75 player in the history of basketball like he has been named.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: wadesworld on October 23, 2025, 07:36:21 PMIt was for sure a bad fit, and I agree he's not made to be second fiddle. But I also don't think he's anywhere good enough to be the best player on a title team, like most thought he was prior to coming to Milwaukee.

I think he's a top 75 offensive player, but in my opinion, I don't see him being a top 75 player in the history of basketball like he has been named.

Plus he supports BLM. Disqualifying
#BanGBWarrior

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 23, 2025, 07:40:28 PMPlus he supports BLM. Disqualifying

That's why I'm boycotting the NBa
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 23, 2025, 07:40:28 PMPlus he supports BLM. Disqualifying
I can only speak for myself, but despite the obvious flaws, I support the Bureau of Land Management also.

MuggsyB

Lebron hasn't said anything yet.  I think he knows Damon Jones pretty well. 

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 07:10:07 PMI don't disagree with you about personal responsibility.  The problem however is a little different in this case.  When you have apps with easy access, as well as algorithms that can target kids, or even young college players that are making millions in NIL, it's arguably exploitation.  I equate it to Instagram targeting young girls and messing with their self-esteem.

Ironically I listened to the end of this press conference on NBA radio on the way to work.  After the presser concluded, there were two radio adds for online betting companies.  You can't make this up.  Young people are absolutely bombarded with this crap Pakuni.  It's not right and can lead to tremendous emotional destruction, or worse. 

In other words, personal responsibility doesn't matter to you. You prefer the Nanny State.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on October 23, 2025, 08:04:47 PMIn other words, personal responsibility doesn't matter to you. You prefer the Nanny State.
Seriously?

MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on October 23, 2025, 08:04:47 PMIn other words, personal responsibility doesn't matter to you. You prefer the Nanny State.

Lol.  I'm curious about your thoughts on Jay Jones?  Do you agree with Pritzker who said today, "he apologized," and "he meant it".  I guess that settles it.  How come there's been a grand total of one Democratic leader that has said he should resign?  Imagine if a Republican leader wrote those texts and get back to me.  And btw he actually knows those two little kids.  He saw them often.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:28:31 PMLol.  I'm curious about your thoughts on Jay Jones?  Do you agree with Pritzker who said today, "he apologized," and "he meant it".  I guess that settles it.  How come there's been a grand total of one Democratic leader that has said he should resign?  Imagine if a Republican leader wrote those texts and get back to me.  And btw he actually knows those two little kids.  He saw them often.

Wow, politics out of control here
#BanGBWarrior

Uncle Rico

#89
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:28:31 PMLol.  I'm curious about your thoughts on Jay Jones?  Do you agree with Pritzker who said today, "he apologized," and "he meant it".  I guess that settles it.  How come there's been a grand total of one Democratic leader that has said he should resign?  Imagine if a Republican leader wrote those texts and get back to me.  And btw he actually knows those two little kids.  He saw them often.

I can't imagine
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 23, 2025, 08:29:52 PMWow, politics out of control here

That's why I'm boycotting the NBA
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Shaka Shart on October 23, 2025, 08:29:52 PMWow, politics out of control here

You're correct.  I just responded to his post.  My apologies. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:03:58 PMLebron hasn't said anything yet.  I think he knows Damon Jones pretty
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:03:58 PMMichael Jordan hasn't said anything yet, either, and he got suspended by the NBA for gambling
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 23, 2025, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:03:58 PMLebron hasn't said anything yet.  I think he knows Damon Jones pretty
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:03:58 PMMichael Jordan hasn't said anything yet, either, and he got suspended by the NBA for gambling

Good point.   Although I don't think he was suspended because  of economic reasons. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:41:26 PMGood point.   Although I don't think he was suspended because  of economic reasons. 

No, he was suspended for gambling.  That's why his dad was shot.  Imagine getting your dad killed over a gambling debt?!?  SMDH
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 23, 2025, 08:43:25 PMNo, he was suspended for gambling.  That's why his dad was shot.  Imagine getting your dad killed over a gambling debt?!?  SMDH

I don't know all tbe facts on that one. 

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:37:18 AMOne other thing and I've mentioned this several times: we have a colossal gambling problem.  And it doesn't help that every 10 secs, we have athletes and celebrities pimping these companies.  The worst part about it is the access  young people have to it which can lead to addiction.  It's absolutely ridiculous and something needs to be done.

Oh....and now college athletes starting 11/1 can bet on NBA games?  Great.  How wonderful they can use their NIL money to bet now.  This is insane.  Addiction is real and these young kids are vulnerable. 

I agree. Gambling problems amongst young people is a bit out of control.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:38:33 PMYou're correct.  I just responded to his post.  My apologies. 

I've had it up to here with you Muggsy *gestures at a condescendingly low level that's clearly a derogatory comment about height.*
#BanGBWarrior

Shaka Shart

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:45:33 PMI don't know all tbe facts on that one. 

Terry bets everything facts?
#BanGBWarrior

JWags85

Quote from: wadesworld on October 23, 2025, 07:36:21 PMI think he's a top 75 offensive player, but in my opinion, I don't see him being a top 75 player in the history of basketball like he has been named.

Has he had a top 75 career?  Not sure.  Was he in his peak few years a top 75 player all time?  I'd argue yes.  But I wouldn't die on that hill.

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2025, 08:03:58 PMLebron hasn't said anything yet.  I think he knows Damon Jones pretty well. 

Obligatory whenever Damon Jones is mentioned for the rest of time...


In a career of a thousand quoatable quips and moments from NBA on TNT, its still one of my favorite ever.  Magic droning on about explaining the dunk and Chuck BEGGING them to move on and get the cameras back onto the sidelines.

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