9/11, again

[tower912]

The 24th anniversary.  In my mind, it is forever linked with the OKC bombing. An example of man's inhumanity toward man.  Another reminder, as if we needed one today, that some believe that violence and death are the answers. 

[Uncle Rico]

The 24th anniversary.  In my mind, it is forever linked with the OKC bombing. An example of man's inhumanity toward man.  Another reminder, as if we needed one today, that some believe that violence and death are the answers. 

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[MU Fan in Connecticut]

The 24th anniversary.  In my mind, it is forever linked with the OKC bombing. An example of man's inhumanity toward man.  Another reminder, as if we needed one today, that some believe that violence and death are the answers. 

Break out Bruce Springsteen.
Lonesome Day

[tower912]

Indeed.  Required listening today. 

[Skatastrophy]

I wished my wife a happy 9/11 this morning. 

I have such horrible memories of that day it's still hard to wrap my head around watching all of those people take a header out of the towers while they were on fire. One after another. I get why they did it, but it's horrible.

I sometimes wonder if it would benefit society if it were required to watch videos of the atrocities occurring as they happen. Seeing the humanity and the horror of it all could ground people, maybe? Idk.

[JWags85]

I sometimes wonder if it would benefit society if it were required to watch videos of the atrocities occurring as they happen. Seeing the humanity and the horror of it all could ground people, maybe? Idk.

20 years ago I might have agreed with you, but there is so much horrific and emotionally scarring video online these days that I don't know if it matters.  I feel like online media has become like online spending, a level of detachment from the tangible.  I watch a few of the videos every few years for some reason or another and am struck by just how chilling and soul snatching they still are.  The video of second plane swooping into view from overhead and hitting the second tower still shivers my spine in a way I can't think of many things can, despite nearly 25 years passing and countless viewings.

My biggest takeaway from the last few years around 9/11 is being completely and utterly thankful social media wasn't present at the time.  Related to the above, as a junior in HS, I remember kids being fascinated with the destruction and borderline wishing for the second tower to fall cause it was the next phase of shock and excitement in the day.  They had no real understanding or advanced cognitive processing of the absolute death and tragedy going on, but on the screen it was horrifyingly engaging.

If it happened today, there would be unhinged bloodlust for revenge, Gen Z idiots cheering that we got what we deserve, disgusting jokes across the board, and some of the worst snap takes and opinionated monologues you've ever seen.

As we get further away, you'd hope that some of the historical context and gravity can take hold with those who weren't alive or old enough to appreciate it, maybe through the videos you speak of, but we have scores of people who have begun to cheapen, mock, and attempt to edit/discredit/erase the magnitude and absolute evil of the Holocaust, so I don't really know.

[Jay Bee]

No doubt, some Scoopers think 9/11 was great. Disgusting, vile people.

[Pakuni]

[Uncle Rico]

No doubt, some Scoopers think 9/11 was great. Disgusting, vile people.

No doubt, some scoopers are racists, transphobes and homophobes.  Disgusting, vile people.

[tower912]

No doubt, some Scoopers think 9/11 was great. Disgusting, vile people.

#fakenews
#incessantlies
#rampanthypocrisy
Name names. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

No doubt, some Scoopers think 9/11 was great. Disgusting, vile people.

A Ghostbusters-Stay-Puft-Marshmello-man-sized strawman. Heckuva job, BJ.

[tower912]

Break out Bruce Springsteen.
Lonesome Day

Always been partial to 'Into the Fire.'

[Shaka Shart]

No doubt, some Scoopers think 9/11 was great. Disgusting, vile people.

[Shaka Shart]

That aside, I'm currently on a business trip with a guy who served two tours in Afghanistan and he's been very candid about his experiences there and the societal mood impacts it's had on his military community and fellow soldiers.

It was valuable to me personally to hear first hand accounts of his experiences as a result of this day. Lasting effects for his lifetime and many many others.

[Johnny B]

No doubt, some Scoopers think 9/11 was great. Disgusting, vile people.

Was this guy always this whacky

[Johnny B]

For better worse seems every of year fewer and fewer people mention 9/11. Obviously Kirk dying overshadows it this year but still eventually people just move on.

[Shaka Shart]

Was this guy always this whacky

The closet doors are rattling pretty hard right now so the homophobia/transphobia is really ratcheting up

[tower912]

They won't, and they shouldn't.  But time moves on.  Allegiances change.

[The Sultan]

Was this guy always this whacky

He has a history of hyperbole.

[Skatastrophy]

He has a history of hyperbole.

Honestly it's valuable for the board to have a heel. Otherwise we'll all turn on the moderators.

[tower912]

I like JB.  He has his easy buttons.

[Shaka Shart]

I like JB.  He has his easy buttons.

Some say pickleball is like hitting the easy button on exercise

[tower912]

In honor of my firefighting brethren, John 15:13

[Billy Hoyle]

Always been partial to 'Into the Fire.'

IMO, fbe most incredibly powerful version

https://youtu.be/ng7tD1LXRhs?si=-KsPrUsXsN5XzxqE

[MU82]

Laura Loomer says 9/11 was an inside job.

[tower912]

That has never not been stupid.

[Skatastrophy]

A girl I grew up with, Caroline, happened to film 9/11 while she was at NYU. She went on to write/produce shows like Smallville and Vampire Diaries so she stuck with the film thing despite the trauma.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

A girl I grew up with, Caroline, happened to film 9/11 while she was at NYU. She went on to write/produce shows like Smallville and Vampire Diaries so she stuck with the film thing despite the trauma.

PMed you

[Skatastrophy]

PMed you

I appreciate the feet pics but I'm not going to pay you

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I appreciate the feet pics but I'm not going to pay you

I just wanted you to reciprocate

[cheebs09]

I just wanted you to reciprocate

[Shaka Shart]

Looking forward to this year's Famous alumni's feet pregame threads

[nyg]

Typical Scoop, just like class clown Rico turning every thread into a comedy.  This one into a feet discussion.  RIP to the 3,000 lost and the hundreds of first responders and civilians who were lost due to airborne chemicals.

RIP to my friends in the North Tower:

John O'Neill
Paul Sarle
George Morell

[Shaka Shart]

Typical Scoop, just like class clown Rico turning every thread into a comedy.  This one into a feet discussion.  RIP to the 3,000 lost and the hundreds of first responders and civilians who were lost due to airborne chemicals.

RIP to my friends in the North Tower:

John O'Neill
Paul Sarle
George Morell

I hope your friends are at peace.

But man this wasn't derailed by comedy, but by bad faith whining.

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[tower912]

And humor and cheap comedy are more important than ever.

[The Sultan]

I mean, if you are coming to Scoop for serious discussion about 9/11 24 years after the fact, I don't know what you are expecting.

[Warriors4ever]

I'm in NYC right now, and went to the Memorial pools between 9 and 10 pm last night. Lots and lots of people, but I was struck by how many would have no personal memory, due to their age... and many were taking photos just like any tourist attraction. I chose not to, as I was there as an observance and to reflect.Amy flowers, flags and pictures and notes left at individual names.
What was very disconcerting was that there was a group of very loud motorcyclists that kept circling and then pulled over, and also were blaring music that really was not appropriate for the day and location.
On several occasions several of us would just stand there, look at each other, and go What the F?$@@?
The. There was a pipe and drum group that was marching through, clearly planned, and at least drowned out the motorcyclists.
Did find out that there is now an area set aside for those first responders who have subsequently died of ailments like cancer that resulted from their exposure at the site - I made sure to go there as well.

[Skatastrophy]

Typical Scoop, just like class clown Rico turning every thread into a comedy.  This one into a feet discussion.  RIP to the 3,000 lost and the hundreds of first responders and civilians who were lost due to airborne chemicals.

RIP to my friends in the North Tower:

John O'Neill
Paul Sarle
George Morell

Great point. @mods should ban Rico for always discussing #feet

[Uncle Rico]

Great point. @mods should ban Rico for always discussing #feet

I hate feet.  They're disgusting and men should never wear sandals

[Skatastrophy]

I hate feet.  They're disgusting and men should never wear sandals

Socks-with-sandals enjoyer, Rico. How am I not surprised?

You sure you didn't go to UW-Madison? Mr. Birkenstocks with wool socks?

[Biggie Clausen]

Has anyone been to the 9/11 museum?  If not, it's a must.  An absolutely stunning, moving experience.  The room with photos of everyone who died, along with a story of each person from a loved one if you pick up a phone, is almost too much to take. 

[Uncle Rico]

Socks-with-sandals enjoyer, Rico. How am I not surprised?

You sure you didn't go to UW-Madison? Mr. Birkenstocks with wool socks?

Wool socks save us from seeing each others feet

[MU82]

Has anyone been to the 9/11 museum?  If not, it's a must.  An absolutely stunning, moving experience.  The room with photos of everyone who died, along with a story of each person from a loved one if you pick up a phone, is almost too much to take. 

My wife and I went to the museum in 2015 during the same trip we went to see MU win the Barclays event. You are right about it being an intense experience.

[tower912]

As a training class, I got to listen to the fire radio traffic while watching synced up video.  I'm good.

[Skatastrophy]

As a training class, I got to listen to the fire radio traffic while watching synced up video.  I'm good.

Yeah, I'm not sure I need to dwell further on my own memories. I'm sure it's an excellent museum with great storytelling, though.