Pray for Charlie Kirk

[Skatastrophy]

But why so much yappin upon their death?

This dude's death has been blamed on democrats and is being used to further the fascist takeover of our country by the current administration. They're using this death to further limit free speech (unconstitutional), and send the military into states (unconstitutional). So it is an existential threat.

All of that with overtones of whitewashing this dudes past behavior and trying to stand him up as a saint with a military funeral, and the white house hosting his show after his death. The white house has literally endorsed his show, his racism, his antisemitism, his misogyny, and his hate for the lgbtq community.

The current admin are using his death as a tool to further their political goals, and those goals are attacking the left in the country.

Normally you could talk about "hey this dude was racist and an overall shitbag so don't put him on a pedastal" and people would be like, "yeah you're right" and that's it. Instead it's led to a crackdown on the disenfranchised in this country just like all the other crap from this admin.

So it's got nothing to do with Charlie really. It's that crazies in power are using him as a tool to leverage their way to getting what they want. And how do you argue against that other than trying to get them to acknowledge reality? But they won't. They think he was a good dude. Because they're fucked in the head.

[Uncle Rico]

This dude's death has been blamed on democrats and is being used to further the fascist takeover of our country by the current administration. They're using this death to further limit free speech (unconstitutional), and send the military into states (unconstitutional). So it is an existential threat.

All of that with overtones of whitewashing this dudes past behavior and trying to stand him up as a saint with a military funeral, and the white house hosting his show after his death. The white house has literally endorsed his show, his racism, his antisemitism, his misogyny, and his hate for the lgbtq community.

The current admin are using his death as a tool to further their political goals, and those goals are attacking the left in the country.

Normally you could talk about "hey this dude was racist and an overall shitbag so don't put him on a pedastal" and people would be like, "yeah you're right" and that's it. Instead it's led to a crackdown on the disenfranchised in this country just like all the other crap from this admin.

So it's got nothing to do with Charlie really. It's that crazies in power are using him as a tool to leverage their way to getting what they want. And how do you argue against that other than trying to get them to acknowledge reality? But they won't. They think he was a good dude. Because they're fucked in the head.

They're literally calling it their "Reichstag Fire"

[Jay Bee]

Is this a serious question?

The President of the United States has ordered flags to be flown at half-staff for a private citizen and is using it as a pre-text to take political retribution on his political "enemies" and carry out his anti-democratic agenda and you're wondering why people are "yappin"?

You started talking wild well before the flag stuff. Stop.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

They're literally calling it their "Reichstag Fire"

And in a positive way.

They are openly using the Nazi playbook, calling it the Nazi playbook, but all upset when they get called Nazis.

[MU82]

This dude's death has been blamed on democrats and is being used to further the fascist takeover of our country by the current administration. They're using this death to further limit free speech (unconstitutional), and send the military into states (unconstitutional). So it is an existential threat.

All of that with overtones of whitewashing this dudes past behavior and trying to stand him up as a saint with a military funeral, and the white house hosting his show after his death. The white house has literally endorsed his show, his racism, his antisemitism, his misogyny, and his hate for the lgbtq community.

The current admin are using his death as a tool to further their political goals, and those goals are attacking the left in the country.

Normally you could talk about "hey this dude was racist and an overall shitbag so don't put him on a pedastal" and people would be like, "yeah you're right" and that's it. Instead it's led to a crackdown on the disenfranchised in this country just like all the other crap from this admin.

So it's got nothing to do with Charlie really. It's that crazies in power are using him as a tool to leverage their way to getting what they want. And how do you argue against that other than trying to get them to acknowledge reality? But they won't. They think he was a good dude. Because they're fucked in the head.

Put cancel culture, bigotry, hatred of the Constitution and fascism in a blender.

[wadesworld]

This sounds like politics. You should be banned again, unless certain people don't play by the rules. Your hate is evident. Jah bless.

By the way, speaking of being banned, aren't you the alpha who sent another Scooper a screenshot of your permaban and had him come here to complain about how unfair it is? Think of how good at pickleball you'd be if you just accepted the permaban you claimed to have against you and spent your Scoop time on the manliest of all sports.

[cheebs09]

It will be interesting to hear the evidence in a court of law. When looking at those text messages, I was surprised the Dodds messaging style has made it to the youths.

[forgetful]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tyler-robinson-text-messages-roommate-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-rcna231732

The Charging Document is in this report which includes his confession to his room mate.

Thank you! I figured the full charging document was published somewhere, but couldn't find it.

It looks like, at least in terms of what was released so far, that the only evidence they have related to "far-left extremisms" is his mom saying that he had become "more political and started to lean more to the left - becoming more pro-gay and trans rights oriented?"

And the evidence released in the charging documents seem to contradict the published statements by the Governor and FBI that he was deeply indoctrinated with far-left ideologies.

Unless of course you find being pro gay and trans rights far left.

I also want to clarify. I point this out, because there was a deliberate narrative before any evidence was collected that this was the fault of left-wing politics, and anyone remotely on the left has been targeted since then. When some of the evidence trickled in, I brought up the fact that this looked like it stemmed more from the deep recesses of the internet from people that were not left or right, but warped from the dark-areas of the web. This seems to be the case. And it is appalling that people are taking this murder and shaping it as a weapon to go after their political opponents.

I find the weaponization of his death as disgraceful and insensitive as those celebrating a murder.

[TallTitan34]

It will be interesting to hear the evidence in a court of law. When looking at those text messages, I was surprised the Dodds messaging style has made it to the youths.

Even Steve Bannon was questioning the messages.

[#UnleashSean]

Lots of you are crazy anti-Kirk... I mean, degrading the guy after he got shot and killed in public... why didn't you say much when he was alive? Seems bizarre. To celebrate and/or disregard a life so much.. but not much of a whimper prior to his death.

Don't understand. Nonetheless, probably will never understand many of you with such hate in their hearts. God Bless.

I was pretty open about my hatred of Charlie Kirk when he was alive.

Im shocked at how shocked you are that a majority of the world doesn't feel sad that a man full of hate found a hole in his neck.

[muwarrior69]

Thank you! I figured the full charging document was published somewhere, but couldn't find it.

It looks like, at least in terms of what was released so far, that the only evidence they have related to "far-left extremisms" is his mom saying that he had become "more political and started to lean more to the left - becoming more pro-gay and trans rights oriented?"

And the evidence released in the charging documents seem to contradict the published statements by the Governor and FBI that he was deeply indoctrinated with far-left ideologies.

Unless of course you find being pro gay and trans rights far left.

I also want to clarify. I point this out, because there was a deliberate narrative before any evidence was collected that this was the fault of left-wing politics, and anyone remotely on the left has been targeted since then. When some of the evidence trickled in, I brought up the fact that this looked like it stemmed more from the deep recesses of the internet from people that were not left or right, but warped from the dark-areas of the web. This seems to be the case. And it is appalling that people are taking this murder and shaping it as a weapon to go after their political opponents.

I find the weaponization of his death as disgraceful and insensitive as those celebrating a murder.

I am sure that the suspect who was in love with a transgendered person was the motivating factor in killing Charlie Kirk. Leaving the politics aside this is a very disturbed individual who could not contol his rage and should be held accountable for his actions. It was personal for him.

[Uncle Rico]

I am sure that the suspect who was in love with a transgendered person was the motivating factor in killing Charlie Kirk. Leaving the politics aside this is a very disturbed individual who could not contol his rage and should be held accountable for his actions. It was personal for him.

You're sure about a lot of stuff that isn't true

[Jay Bee]

By the way, speaking of being banned, aren't you the alpha who sent another Scooper a screenshot of your permaban and had him come here to complain about how unfair it is? Think of how good at pickleball you'd be if you just accepted the permaban you claimed to have against you and spent your Scoop time on the manliest of all sports.

No, but sadly I'm injured and unable to play. It's a... sore subject.

[Jay Bee]

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Im shocked at how shocked you are that a majority of the world doesn't feel sad that a man full of hate found a hole in his neck.

I wouldn't expect others to feel any way about it - that's personal. But I wouldn't expect others hope they would celebrate his death loudly. It's sick.

[Uncle Rico]

Wasn't Charlie Kirk a champion of free speech?

https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lyyqtzb7ns2m

Bow down to your state

[muwarrior69]

You're sure about a lot of stuff that isn't true

According to the charging document Tyler Robinson intentionally selected Charlie Kirk because of Tyler Robinson's beliefs and perception regarding Charlie Kirk's political expression. We know that much is true. We know Charlie's beliefs regarding the LGBTQ community and we know Tyler's hatred toward Charlie so how could it not be a contributing factor knowing Tyler's love for his transgender room mate.

I am sure Tyler's motive will come out at trial if there is one.

[Uncle Rico]

According to the charging document Tyler Robinson intentionally selected Charlie Kirk because of Tyler Robinson's beliefs and perception regarding Charlie Kirk's political expression. We know that much is true. We know Charlie's beliefs regarding the LGBTQ community and we know Tyler's hatred toward Charlie so how could it not be a contributing factor knowing Tyler's love for his transgender room mate.

I am sure Tyler's motive will come out at trial if there is one.

Given how poorly Casino Kash and Ding-A-Ling Dan have run the investigation, defense lawyers ought to have an easy time avoiding trial

[jesmu84]

Candace says the texts/digital conversations are fake.

I don't know if they're fake.

But they're awfully strangely worded and structured for a super online young guy

[Jockey]

I am sure that the suspect who was in love with a transgendered person was the motivating factor in killing Charlie Kirk. Leaving the politics aside this is a very disturbed individual who could not contol his rage and should be held accountable for his actions. It was personal for him.

I am sure that you are not too bright.

[muwarrior69]

I am sure that you are not too bright.

I guess you did not read the charging document.

[forgetful]

According to the charging document Tyler Robinson intentionally selected Charlie Kirk because of Tyler Robinson's beliefs and perception regarding Charlie Kirk's political expression. We know that much is true. We know Charlie's beliefs regarding the LGBTQ community and we know Tyler's hatred toward Charlie so how could it not be a contributing factor knowing Tyler's love for his transgender room mate.

I am sure Tyler's motive will come out at trial if there is one.

Based on the charging document you are correct. I highlighted the above though for a particular reason. There is significant room for debate on whether anti- or pro- LGBTQ+ is a political ideology.

Given that there are LGBTQ+ supporters of Trump and the MAGA movement (admittedly not a lot), being pro- or anti LGBTQ+ does not align one with a specific political party.

But the problem we have, and what exhausts me right now, is that with all the problems in the world, there is so much effort to divide people based on demographics. Pushing the idea that some humans, based on who they were born as, are not worthy of the same rights, privileges, compassion and love. And that so many people are perfectly ok with this intentional division and hate, because they perceive the identity that they belong to as winning. In that world, we all lose.

[Shaka Shart]

Based on the charging document you are correct. I highlighted the above though for a particular reason. There is significant room for debate on whether anti- or pro- LGBTQ+ is a political ideology.

Given that there are LGBTQ+ supporters of Trump and the MAGA movement (admittedly not a lot), being pro- or anti LGBTQ+ does not align one with a specific political party.

But the problem we have, and what exhausts me right now, is that with all the problems in the world, there is so much effort to divide people based on demographics. Pushing the idea that some humans, based on who they were born as, are not worthy of the same rights, privileges, compassion and love. And that so many people are perfectly ok with this intentional division and hate, because they perceive the identity that they belong to as winning. In that world, we all lose.

You can convince people to be ok with less and lower quality of life if those that are different them that are the "enemy" are treated even worse.

[Jay Bee]

So you link a NY-post article, whose only source is an anonymous "leak," where no evidence is provided, including comments that the roommate was not trans, and they weren't "partners." Other articles say neighbors say they had never seen anything to indicate that the roommate was trans, or that they were a couple.

Seems like an extremely reckless and un-sourced article that puts peoples lives at risk.

Still reckless?... or simply reality MM didn't want to report on?

[Billy Hoyle]

You can convince people to be ok with less and lower quality of life if those that are different them that are the "enemy" are treated even worse.

THIS!

People are more than happy with higher grocery prices, increased unemployment and stagnating wages if it means arresting and deporting foreign and foreign-looking people, even if they are legal citizens.

[Uncle Rico]

This is what some people want, including a few posters above

https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lyzt2eal7c2m