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brewcity77

Dr. Ah Yung released the following statement.

Dear Marquette community,

I am writing to you with deep sadness to share the news that two Marquette University students died this evening in a near-campus vehicular accident. Two other Marquette students were injured in the accident — they are being treated at a local hospital. Out of respect for the students' families, no additional information is being shared at this time.

We grieve with the students' families and friends, as well as faculty, staff and fellow students here on campus who were touched by these students during their time in our community. I ask that you keep the families in your prayers. Such a loss is difficult to comprehend, and I know that the coming days will be difficult for our community.

A Mass will be held Saturday, Sept. 6, at 1 p.m. in the Chapel of the Holy Family for our Marquette community to gather. The Lunda Room and Henke Lounge in the AMU will be available from noon to 3 p.m. for Marquette community members to come together.

Counseling services and pastoral support are available on campus for all faculty, staff and students.

Members of the university's Counseling Center and Campus Ministry are available to provide support services to students for coping with grief and loss. Counseling Center staff are available 24/7 by calling (414) 288-7172.
The Marquette Employee Assistance Program is available 24/7 for all employees and members of their households. You may reach LifeMatters by calling 1-800-634-6433 or through their website. Use Password: MU1.
Grief affects each of us differently. As a university community, the connections and bonds we share are important in these difficult times. Please check in with your classmates, friends, colleagues and family members as we navigate this time of sorrow together. May God bless you and the entire Marquette community.   

Sincerely,

Dr. Kimo Ah Yun
President


https://today.marquette.edu/2025/09/mourning-the-loss-of-two-marquette-students/

Jay Bee

That is awful and sad. What do we know about the arrested driver?
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brewcity77

It's been released that both players were on the men's lacrosse team. Sophomores Noah Snyder and Scott Michaud.

As far as the other driver, she left the scene in handcuffs.

wadesworld

Awful. Thoughts and prayers for the victims, their family and friends, and others involved.

Jay Bee

Quote from: brewcity77 on September 06, 2025, 07:54:35 AMIt's been released that both players were on the men's lacrosse team. Sophomores Noah Snyder and Scott Michaud.

As far as the other driver, she left the scene in handcuffs.

Wow. I think I found her on the Milwaukee County jail roster. Has some abrasions on side of face. OWI for now, I'm sure more charges coming. Not going to name her because I'm not certain it's the one.

Rest in peace, Noah and Scott. 
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: brewcity77 on September 06, 2025, 07:54:35 AMIt's been released that both players were on the men's lacrosse team. Sophomores Noah Snyder and Scott Michaud.

As far as the other driver, she left the scene in handcuffs.

all home athletic events are cancelled for the weekend. A very sad situation.

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MuggsyB

Quote from: brewcity77 on September 06, 2025, 07:54:35 AMIt's been released that both players were on the men's lacrosse team. Sophomores Noah Snyder and Scott Michaud.

As far as the other driver, she left the scene in handcuffs.

Freaking awful. 

muwarrior69

#7
I lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

MuggsyB

Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

How horrible.  I'm very sorry for you loss and pain. 

tower912

That is a nightmare.  That never goes away.
Fearless and cheerful because it is so much fun.

Jay Bee

Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

Sorry, brother. I can't imagine. Life is precious. We are lucky to be here imo.

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Scoop Snoop

#11
Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

My wife's son died in a house fire at the age of 17. Although she never expects more than a brief conversation from them, she finds some comfort when she is in the presence of teen boys and is able to chat briefly with them about any subject.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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MU82

Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

Very sad - any parent's nightmare. I feel for you, my friend.
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jutaw22mu

Devasting loss for their families and the Marquette community.  May they rest in peace.


forgetful

Saw a couple classy posts from UW social media regarding this. Maybe there is still some good in the world that we can all recognize tragedy and support each other in difficult times.

Avenue Commons

Quote from: muwarrior69 on September 06, 2025, 03:22:08 PMI lost my 17 year old son in car accident 25 years ago. Hearing this just brings it all back. There are no words, but a hug would be nice.

I am deeply sorry for your loss. I can only imagine your pain. Here's a digital hug as much as there is such a thing. I'd give you the biggest bear hug if I could.
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CountryRoads

Devastating for the 2 MU kids. Sounds like it was a dangerous but common traffic scenario. The jeep w/ the MU players was traveling at an extremely high rate of speed for the location which can impact the decision making of other drivers, especially impaired ones.

wadesworld

Quote from: CountryRoads on September 10, 2025, 07:32:45 PMDevastating for the 2 MU kids. Sounds like it was a dangerous but common traffic scenario. The jeep w/ the MU players was traveling at an extremely high rate of speed for the location which can impact the decision making of other drivers, especially impaired ones.

Maybe impaired people should simply not operate a vehicle.

CountryRoads

Quote from: wadesworld on September 10, 2025, 07:39:04 PMMaybe impaired people should simply not operate a vehicle.

Can't argue with that.

mu_hilltopper

So if I'm reading that article correctly .. the kids were trying to make the yellow light, and the lady took a left in front of them?

Also curious of the kids in the Jeep, the seatbelt usage. 

I remember while I was at MU, a friend of mine's sister was killed, 5 kids in the car, 4 wearing seatbelts survived.

This is all heartbreaking .. just trying to make sense of the sadness.

lostpassword

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 10, 2025, 08:52:54 PMSo if I'm reading that article correctly .. the kids were trying to make the yellow light, and the lady took a left in front of them?


The article doesn't do a great job of describing exactly what happened.  The students were southbound at 53 mph (speed limit 30).  Woman was presumably northbound, was turning left to go west on St. Paul and accelerated "into the intersection from a stopped position while the light was yellow".  Not sure if she was already pulled into the intersection somewhat (as is common when turning left).  Not sure if the students sped up to make the yellow.  Not sure if she thought they were going to stop or if she thought she had time to complete the turn before they arrived or if she thought anything because of intoxication.

Terrible.

Scoop Snoop

Excerpts from an online story (Men's Journal):

An officer at the scene said Brunner displayed "bloodshot and glassy eyes, slurred speech, and difficulty keeping her balance. Also, officers recovered a grinder with a green leafy substance that tested positive for THC.

Testing revealed Brunner's blood-alcohol content to be 0.133, which is beyond Wisconsin's legal limit to drive of 0.08. CBS affiliate WISC-TV reported that Brunner has four prior convictions for operating a vehicle under the influence."


And yet she apparently still had a valid driver's license. WHY?

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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rocky_warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 11, 2025, 01:11:48 PMAnd yet she apparently still had a valid driver's license. WHY?

She should not have been driving intoxicated, and certainly not allowed to for the...4th time??

But...absent that info...when two cars collide in an intersection during a yellow light, one traveling 11mph (19mph under the speed limit), and the other traveling 53mph (23mph over the speed limit)...which driver would you blame for the deaths in the accident?

Scoop Snoop

#25
Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 11, 2025, 01:50:27 PMShe should not have been driving intoxicated, and certainly not allowed to for the...4th time??

But...absent that info...when two cars collide in an intersection during a yellow light, one traveling 11mph (19mph under the speed limit), and the other traveling 53mph (23mph over the speed limit)...which driver would you blame for the deaths in the accident?

No question that speeding places some of the blame on the Jeep driver, but if we are getting technical, failure to yield places the blame (by law) on the driver turning left into oncoming traffic.

A sober driver, seeing the other driver trying to beat a red light, would very likely have stayed and waited to turn.

It reminded me of an accident many years ago when 15-year-old me was in the front passenger seat and my mother was making a turn into a parking lot when a speeding car came right at us. The reason I remember it so well is because the car was heading straight for me. I yelled FLOOR IT! and she did, so we got hit very hard at the rear door rather than the one I was sitting by. The driver was extremely drunk and, after a few minutes drove off but not before I wrote down his tag number. No ticket was issued to either party as he was drunk and left the scene of an accident and, we later learned, a friend of the cop.

So, if your point is that, even with the drunk driving, there may be some blame assigned to the sober driver...fair enough. My point is that I doubt it would ever had happened without the driver being drunk and who should have had her license at least suspended if not permanently revoked due to the previous DUIs.  My scare as a teen when our car was demolished where we were hit is difficult to forget. No drunk, no accident, no close call.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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rocky_warrior

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Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 11, 2025, 02:16:36 PMSo, if your point is that, even with the drunk driving, there may be some blame assigned to the sober driver...fair enough. My point is that I doubt it would ever had happened without the driver being drunk and who should have had her license at least suspended if not permanently revoked due to the previous DUIs.

I'm not exactly certain of my "point" - and as I mentioned it is surprising she was still even allowed to drive.

Certainly failing to yield is the cause of the accident.  Though if the accident were to happen at posted speed limits, I do question whether anyone would have died.

Similar to you, I was a passenger in a car heading one way at about 25-30mph.  We got t-boned on my side by another car that failed to yield (didn't see the stop sign) at 25-30mph.  Fortunately only cars totaled, and I had a stiff neck for a few weeks.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 11, 2025, 02:20:52 PMI'm not exactly certain of my "point" - and as I mentioned it is surprising she was still even allowed to drive.

Certainly failing to yield is the cause of the accident.  Though if the accident were to happen at posted speed limits, I do question whether anyone would have died.

Very fair.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Jay Bee

Quote from: rocky_warrior on September 11, 2025, 01:50:27 PMShe should not have been driving intoxicated, and certainly not allowed to for the...4th time??

But...absent that info...when two cars collide in an intersection during a yellow light, one traveling 11mph (19mph under the speed limit), and the other traveling 53mph (23mph over the speed limit)...which driver would you blame for the deaths in the accident?

Looks like the answer to your question is, "both". Such a sad loss of lives.

https://www.fox6now.com/news/marquette-students-killed-milwaukee-crash-charges-051926.amp
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The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

#UnleashThePortal

Ahhh the American justice system. Where we try and ruin even more lives from an accident!

The Sultan

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on May 20, 2026, 10:01:57 AMAhhh the American justice system. Where we try and ruin even more lives from an accident!


Are you seriously suggesting that someone driving a car 20 mph over the speed limit where multiple people were killed, should go unpunished?

Not to mention it was packed beyond capacity.
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#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: The Sultan on May 20, 2026, 10:08:21 AMAre you seriously suggesting that someone driving a car 20 mph over the speed limit where multiple people were killed, should go unpunished?

Not to mention it was packed beyond capacity.

Are you seriously suggesting charging a 21 year old with homicide doing what every young adult in the city also does?

Who exactly benefits from that?

The Sultan

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on May 20, 2026, 10:32:24 AMAre you seriously suggesting charging a 21 year old with homicide doing what every young adult in the city also does?

Who exactly benefits from that?


Every young adult kills their passengers while driving their car?? That's news to me.

And your second question is nonsense. You don't charge someone because it may or may not "benefit" someone. You charge them because they allegedly committed a felony where people lost their lives.

Should they receive leniency because of mitigating circumstances? Of course. But to simply not charge them at all? That's ridiculous.
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NCMUFan

Lots of bad decisions that I am sure everyone wishes they could go back in time to make a better decision.  Prayers for the families and friends.

#UnleashThePortal

Quote from: The Sultan on May 20, 2026, 10:37:35 AMEvery young adult kills their passengers while driving their car?? That's news to me.

And your second question is nonsense. You don't charge someone because it may or may not "benefit" someone. You charge them because they allegedly committed a felony where people lost their lives.

Should they receive leniency because of mitigating circumstances? Of course. But to simply not charge them at all? That's ridiculous.

Part a, you knew exactly what I was talking about,  but making mountains out of molehills is what you do, so carry on.

Part b, do you actually think a 21 year old deserves up to 10 years in prison (with a permanent murder charge on their record) because he MAY* have been going 53mph to beat a light, while a drunk driver floored it across the intersection?

Im sure countless people have done the same thing to beat a light before, but I'm sure NO ONE on scoop has ever done this.


*speedometers are often inaccudatw, and even more so at high acceleration. i guess they could pull the GPS data possibly though.


Uncle Rico

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on May 20, 2026, 11:02:24 AMPart a, you knew exactly what I was talking about,  but making mountains out of molehills is what you do, so carry on.

Part b, do you actually think a 21 year old deserves up to 10 years in prison (with a permanent murder charge on their record) because he MAY* have been going 53mph to beat a light, while a drunk driver floored it across the intersection?

Im sure countless people have done the same thing to beat a light before, but I'm sure NO ONE on scoop has ever done this.


*speedometers are often inaccudatw, and even more so at high acceleration. i guess they could pull the GPS data possibly though.



He broke the law and people died.  Reckless driving in Milwaukee is a massive problem and people are going to be made an example of.  My sympathy for him is low having witnessed reckless driving throughout the city.

It's a pretty safe bet this never makes it to trial, anyway, but he's going to have time to serve.

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The Sultan

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on May 20, 2026, 11:02:24 AMPart a, you knew exactly what I was talking about,  but making mountains out of molehills is what you do, so carry on.

You seem to think he was charged simply because he was driving 20 mph over the limit. He was charged because he was speeding and people were killed.


Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on May 20, 2026, 11:02:24 AMPart b, do you actually think a 21 year old deserves up to 10 years in prison (with a permanent murder charge on their record) because he MAY* have been going 53mph to beat a light, while a drunk driver floored it across the intersection?

I'm not sure why the age of the guy is relevant here.

I think a driver in this situation should be charged. I also think that, with mitigating factors, that he shouldn't serve ten years in prison. He very likely will not.


Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on May 20, 2026, 11:02:24 AMIm sure countless people have done the same thing to beat a light before, but I'm sure NO ONE on scoop has ever done this.

Again, I am not sure why you think this matters. He wasn't charged because he tried to beat a light. He was charged because he tried to beat a light and people were killed in the process.
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StillAWarrior

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Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on May 20, 2026, 11:02:24 AMPart b, do you actually think a 21 year old deserves up to 10 years in prison (with a permanent murder charge on their record) because he MAY* have been going 53mph to beat a light, while a drunk driver floored it across the intersection?

He doesn't have a "murder charge" on his record. He's accused of negligence resulting in the death of two people. That'll get you a charge...and it should. If he is convicted, I would think that mitigating factors will result in far less than 10 years...as they should.
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NCMUFan

Reckless driving is a problem everywhere.
Tragic events occur when two reckless drivers meet.

Jay Bee

Quote from: StillAWarrior on May 20, 2026, 12:08:00 PMHe doesn't have a "murder charge" on his record. He's accused of negligence resulting in the death of two people. That'll get you a charge...and it should. If he is convicted, I would think that mitigating factors will result in far less than 10 years...as they should.

If we want to be precise, then do that. He's charged with two counts of felony homicide.

Not 'negligence resulting in...'.. rather negligence CAUSING.
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StillAWarrior

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Quote from: Jay Bee on May 20, 2026, 02:32:31 PMIf we want to be precise, then do that. He's charged with two counts of felony homicide.

Not 'negligence resulting in...'.. rather negligence CAUSING.

Fair enough; my comment lacked precision. Your Unleash's claim he had a murder charge on his permanent record was simply wrong.

Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

The Sultan

Quote from: StillAWarrior on May 20, 2026, 02:42:40 PMFair enough; my comment lacked precision. Your claim he had a murder charge on his permanent record was simply wrong.

That wasn't JB.

That was #unleash.
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StillAWarrior

Quote from: The Sultan on May 20, 2026, 02:44:21 PMThat wasn't JB.

That was #unleash.

Doh!

My apologies, JB.
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