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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: JWags85 on December 02, 2025, 11:44:45 AMWas reading on X, kind of funny...Crumbl was founded/based in Logan, home of Utah St.  One of the two founders, Hemsley, is an Utah St alum and was attending when it started, and Crumbl always had tie-ins and promos at USU events.  But Hemsley isn't really a big sports guy. Meanwhile, the other founder, McGowan, is a high school dropout but a rabid BYU fan and booster and is throwing money to keep Sitake around.  Lot of people thought Crumbl success was gonna be a growth engine for USU athletics, 'afraid not.  The Legend Stew Morill weeps

another amusing twist to the whole BYU thing - Hemsley came out as gay this past summer and the  BYU policy prohibits same-sex romantic behavior, including dating, holding hands, and kissing, saying it is not compatible with the university's honor code. The current policy explicitly states that all sexual relations must be between a man and a woman in lawful marriage and bans any same-sex romantic behavior. 
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane




The Sultan

Klein is an alum, and their former OC who's done great work at A&M where he has been the last couple of years. Apparently Okie State looked at him. My guess is KSU wanted to make sure they got him and negotiated a "retirement" for Kileman, who has fell off the last couple of seasons.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 02, 2025, 06:00:22 PMSEC passion is real.


(real scarry)
Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 02, 2025, 06:00:22 PMSEC passion is real.

Or, more likely, Kiffin is a liar.

When he leaves LSU in 4-5 years, I'm sure he'll make up another sob story.


(real scarry)

MU82

"Don't get me started on Lane. He's been a snake since I met him." - Former Ole Miss defensive tackle Tariqious Tisdale, who played for Kiffin in 2020.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 02, 2025, 02:22:09 PManother amusing twist to the whole BYU thing - Hemsley came out as gay this past summer and the  BYU policy prohibits same-sex romantic behavior, including dating, holding hands, and kissing, saying it is not compatible with the university's honor code. The current policy explicitly states that all sexual relations must be between a man and a woman in lawful marriage and bans any same-sex romantic behavior. 

One more twist - Franklin served Crumbl cookies at his signing day press conference today.  ;D  ;D  ;D
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MU82

Crumbl cookies are massively overrated. Yesterday, my wife made peanut butter cookies with peanut butter chips that are 100 times better than Crumbl's best cookie.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on December 03, 2025, 11:08:38 AM"Don't get me started on Lane. He's been a snake since I met him." - Former Ole Miss defensive tackle Tariqious Tisdale, who played for Kiffin in 2020.
ole miss people are doing great job of showing why ole miss isn't a destination job.

Pakuni

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on December 03, 2025, 12:08:08 PMole miss people are doing great job of showing why ole miss isn't a destination job.

By acting like every other fanbase would in the same circumstance?

I mean, I think you need more happening in your life if you can spend a Sunday afternoon waiting around an airport to boo a departing college football coach, but Ole Miss people are acting no differently than other program's people would.

Pakuni


JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on December 02, 2025, 03:57:12 PMHa.

https://x.com/EliManning/status/1995962703886909881?s=20

Eli has a very underrated sense of humor that gets overshadowed by Peyton.  He's cracked me up a few times on Manningcast.

Quote from: The Sultan on December 03, 2025, 09:34:22 AMKlein is an alum, and their former OC who's done great work at A&M where he has been the last couple of years. Apparently Okie State looked at him. My guess is KSU wanted to make sure they got him and negotiated a "retirement" for Kileman, who has fell off the last couple of seasons.

I also wonder how hard of a sell it was for Kleiman.  In 8 years at NDSU, between DC and then as HC, won 7 nattys and made another semi.  Then gets to KSU and has had some tougher sledding with a lot more pressure.  He's made like $30MM+ at KSU.  Might be welcoming a step back and a cushy athletic department gig back at NDSU or maybe Northern Iowa.

I don't know Klein's reputation as a recruiter, but otherwise pretty much a home run hire.  Best QB in program history (no disrespect Michael Bishop)

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on December 03, 2025, 12:08:08 PMole miss people are doing great job of showing why ole miss isn't a destination job.

They are really trying to bank heavily on using people's prior feelings on Kiffin to force the narrative on this.  A successful and VERY well liked coach who elevated the program to its greatest heights leaving to an unquestionably better job at one of the top 5 programs of the last 25 years...suddenly everyone has always hated him, knows he sucked/is actually overrated, and knew he was actually a scumbag.  This coming from a school and AD who employed Hugh Freeze and tried to cover for him so aggressively that they got sued for defamation.

Not at all biased sour grapes...just like that quoted player who actually played for 2 seasons under Kiffin and stunk so bad he only played 11 games over those 2 years after being a starter on bad teams before.

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on December 03, 2025, 12:51:14 PMBrian Hartline is landing a HC gig, and it's not Penn State.

https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1996232186471563628?s=20

Smart move by Hartline, IMO.  He wasn't ready for a top P5 gig, IMO.  I don't think he was every gonna get PSU.  But I heard rumors of UK being interested.  But a lot easier to have success quickly at USF, especially for an elite recruiter like Hartline.  A lot has been invested in the program, easy conference, and one (arguably 2 if you include FSU) of the huge in-state powers in chaos.  Win 8-9 games for 2-3 years and he'll have a bunch of prime jobs to choose from.


Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on December 03, 2025, 03:14:07 PMRGIII is just trolling, right?

https://x.com/RGIII/status/1995956852895744243?s=20

If the Miami Hurricanes get snubbed for the CFP, Marco Rubio wants President Donald Trump to take over the selection committee. Is he trolling or sucking?

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Pakuni on December 03, 2025, 03:14:07 PMRGIII is just trolling, right?

https://x.com/RGIII/status/1995956852895744243?s=20
Quote from: Jockey on December 03, 2025, 03:31:43 PMIf the Miami Hurricanes get snubbed for the CFP, Marco Rubio wants President Donald Trump to take over the selection committee. Is he trolling or sucking?

JD Vance is jealous of how much service Little Marco is providing Dear Leader.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MU82

Quote from: Jockey on December 03, 2025, 03:31:43 PMIf the Miami Hurricanes get snubbed for the CFP, Marco Rubio wants President Donald Trump to take over the selection committee. Is he trolling or sucking?

I hadn't heard that, but it's the best reason yet to root for Miami to be the odd team out. Hell, now I'd even rather see ND get picked.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on December 03, 2025, 03:14:07 PMRGIII is just trolling, right?

https://x.com/RGIII/status/1995956852895744243?s=20

As a former RG3 fan, I don't know if he's trolling, but he's leaned so hard into his contrarian angles that I don't think he can see the forest for the trees anymore.

As for his argument before that wild kicker, I can see BYU over ND, but they don't really have a signature win (Utah is fine, nothing more) and got throttled by the only elite team they played.  Ole Miss beat OU and that Tulane win isn't much worse than the Utah win. Miami beat ND and has a significantly better differential than BYU despite having one more loss cause they beat the hell out of every mediocre team.

The interesting thing about calling out their P4 performance is the B10 and SEC are strong while the ACC/B12 are barely above G5 level.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: JWags85 on December 03, 2025, 04:50:14 PMThe interesting thing about calling out their P4 performance is the B10 and SEC are strong while the ACC/B12 are barely above G5 level.
I think the B12 has proven to be better than the ACC, but not close to B10 & SEC.

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on December 03, 2025, 04:50:14 PMAs a former RG3 fan, I don't know if he's trolling, but he's leaned so hard into his contrarian angles that I don't think he can see the forest for the trees anymore.

As for his argument before that wild kicker, I can see BYU over ND, but they don't really have a signature win (Utah is fine, nothing more) and got throttled by the only elite team they played.  Ole Miss beat OU and that Tulane win isn't much worse than the Utah win. Miami beat ND and has a significantly better differential than BYU despite having one more loss cause they beat the hell out of every mediocre team.

The interesting thing about calling out their P4 performance is the B10 and SEC are strong while the ACC/B12 are barely above G5 level.

Oh, you're just persecuting Christians.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: MU82 on December 03, 2025, 05:48:05 PMOh, you're just persecuting Christians.

are Mormons considered Christians? Do Christians consider them "Christian?" I know plenty of "Christians" who don't consider Catholics as being "Christian."
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

JWags85

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 03, 2025, 05:29:34 PMI think the B12 has proven to be better than the ACC, but not close to B10 & SEC.

Yea, there is a big fall off from B10 to B12 and then an even bigger one to the ACC.  I'd be pretty comfortable saying any of the top 4 teams in the American (UNT, Tulane, USF, Navy) would finish top 5 in the ACC this year easily.

Speaking of the ACC, kind of funky that neither team in the ACC Championship game played, much less beat, Miami this year.  And Duke, who didn't beat a team in the top 40 all season and didn't beat a team with a winning record in the ACC, wins the tiebreak on "conference opponent win percentage" cause their mediocre opponents were slightly less mediocre.  Funny enough, not playing FSU helped Duke's SOS.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on December 03, 2025, 08:13:03 PMYea, there is a big fall off from B10 to B12 and then an even bigger one to the ACC.  I'd be pretty comfortable saying any of the top 4 teams in the American (UNT, Tulane, USF, Navy) would finish top 5 in the ACC this year easily.

Speaking of the ACC, kind of funky that neither team in the ACC Championship game played, much less beat, Miami this year.  And Duke, who didn't beat a team in the top 40 all season and didn't beat a team with a winning record in the ACC, wins the tiebreak on "conference opponent win percentage" cause their mediocre opponents were slightly less mediocre.  Funny enough, not playing FSU helped Duke's SOS.

They really should use a CFP ranking tie breaker instead. Miami and Virginia guarantees an ACC team in the playoffs. A Duke win may keep the conference out - which is pretty embarrassing.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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