2025 College Football Thread

[JWags85]

There are really no reasons for CSU to be this bad outside of poor leadership and coaching hires. Nice campus, great new stadium and facilities, strong fan support, and Ft. Collins is an awesome town.

I mean, they are in a mid major conference and the unquestioned number 2 program in the state, not to mention they have no real football history to speak of.  2 coaches there in the last 70 years have had winning records, and one (McElwain) was only there 3 years. Even with CU sucking for awhile, CSU is still little brother...in a state that doesn't produce a ton of D1 talent 

[Pakuni]

I mean, they are in a mid major conference and the unquestioned number 2 program in the state, not to mention they have no real football history to speak of.  2 coaches there in the last 70 years have had winning records, and one (McElwain) was only there 3 years. Even with CU sucking for awhile, CSU is still little brother...in a state that doesn't produce a ton of D1 talent 

How dare you call The Conference of Champions^TM a mid-major.

[cheebs09]

If Kiffin was staying, he would have said so by now right? I feel otherwise he's just allowing a big distraction.

[MUBurrow]

If Kiffin was staying, he would have said so by now right? I feel otherwise he's just allowing a big distraction.

I've come around to agreeing with this.  Lane's a unique cat, so I could see all of this just being set up for him to post the Wolf of Wall Street meme, but there's been enough smoke of a quiet pissing match with the Ole Miss administration that I think he's gone.

[MU82]

LeBron Lane Kiffin to announce The Decision tomorrow.

[MUBurrow]

Just an awful ref showing early in Michigan-OSU. First instigating a personal foul that would make an MLB ump blush, then a bizarre late TD call on the goal line.

[CreightonWarrior]

Really want Michigan to win just to see Ohio state fans call for Ryan Day's head in the middle of a back to back Natty pursuit.

[Shaka Shart]

Is James Madison just HC U at this point?

[MU82]

Belichick wrapped up a helluva first season. Genius, one might even say.

[BM1090]

Texas the latest example that scheduling tough non conference games isn't worth it. A 10-2 Texas team is in the playoff. Out because they lost to OSU.

It's a non issue if they beat Florida. Still dumb. No margin for error because they chose to challenge themselves.

[The Sultan]

Texas the latest example that scheduling tough non conference games isn't worth it. A 10-2 Texas team is in the playoff. Out because they lost to OSU.

It's a non issue if they beat Florida. Still dumb. No margin for error because they chose to challenge themselves.

I guess. Florida is just a really bad loss though.

[The Sultan]

So it seems like we have the following locks:

Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Big 12 Champion, and two of the ACC, American and Sun Belt champions. (If Duke wins the ACCCG, the ACC could be shut out.)

If BYU wins the Big 12, it looks like Texas Tech would take the last spot.

But if Tech wins, it's probably Notre Dame, but Texas and Vandy have better claims IMO.

[Pakuni]

So it seems like we have the following locks:

Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Big 12 Champion, and two of the ACC, American and Sun Belt champions. (If Duke wins the ACCCG, the ACC could be shut out.)

If BYU wins the Big 12, it looks like Texas Tech would take the last spot.

But if Tech wins, it's probably Notre Dame, but Texas and Vandy have better claims IMO.

Notre Dame, I think, is in no matter what. Given the rankings to date, it's clear the committee wants them in.
Will be interesting to see what happens to Bama if they lose to Georgia in the SEC championship. Are they going to get punished for losing what's essentially a road game against a top 5 team they've already beaten once on the road?
I think they're still in, but if BYU knocks off Texas Tech, things could get interesting. Miami is the other team rooting hard for Texas Tech this weekend.

[MUBurrow]

Notre Dame, I think, is in no matter what. Given the rankings to date, it's clear the committee wants them in.

Agree, and while I hate ND as much as the next scooper, they probably should be.  Their two losses are to playoff teams (or a playoff team and the first team out) in the first two games of the year by a combined four points.

Will be interesting to see what happens to Bama if they lose to Georgia in the SEC championship. Are they going to get punished for losing what's essentially a road game against a top 5 team they've already beaten once on the road?

This is what I was thinking as Bama was having trouble with Auburn yesterday.  My head spins trying to come up with the exact permutation, but if something like Georgia, BYU, and UVA all win, it gets really crowded at the bottom.

[The Sultan]

Agree, and while I hate ND as much as the next scooper, they probably should be.  Their two losses are to playoff teams (or a playoff team and the first team out) in the first two games of the year by a combined four points.

Notre Dame has the same record, and significantly worse metrics, than Vanderbilt and BYU (assuming they lose the B12 game). They have the same record and similar metrics to Miami, a team that beat them head to head.

ND should absolutely NOT be in the college football playoff.

[MU82]

LeBron still hasn't made The Decision, though The Athletic and others are reporting he's LSU bound.

[WhiteTrash]

Notre Dame has the same record, and significantly worse metrics, than Vanderbilt and BYU (assuming they lose the B12 game). They have the same record and similar metrics to Miami, a team that beat them head to head.

ND should absolutely NOT be in the college football playoff.

I agree, but in reference to what will actually happen, the component of 'when you lose' has always been a significant factor in college football.

[Pakuni]

Notre Dame has the same record, and significantly worse metrics, than Vanderbilt and BYU (assuming they lose the B12 game). They have the same record and similar metrics to Miami, a team that beat them head to head.

ND should absolutely NOT be in the college football playoff.

Vandy has a case. Both losses were on the road against quality opponents, and the Bama game was closer than the final score. But really not seeing it with BYU. They have one top 20 win, by 3 at home over Utah. The only other quality opponent they've played is Texas Tech, and that was men vs boys.

[Billy Hoyle]

Not only has Kiffin decided to bail for LSU, but he's reportedly told his offensive staff to be on the flight with him, or they won't be hired at LSU, which he's doing to pressure Ole Miss to let him coach.

To quote a Twitter post I saw today, "Lane Kiffin wakes up everu morning like 'how can I be the most Lane Kiffin version of myself today?' and then he delivers."

[MurphysTillClose]

Notre Dame has the same record, and significantly worse metrics, than Vanderbilt and BYU (assuming they lose the B12 game). They have the same record and similar metrics to Miami, a team that beat them head to head.

ND should absolutely NOT be in the college football playoff.

What advanced metrics are you referring to here? ND is actually ranked much higher than BYU and Vanderbilt, while much closer to Miami, across SP+, Sangarin, etc. NDs placement across advanced metrics is literally the reason ND is placed at 9th at the moment by the committee.

Miami not making an extremely mid-ACC conference championship game is what is hurting them the most, not some grand conspiracy by the committee to get ND in.

But BYU and Bama winning their CCGs negates this whole conversation as they'd both get in over both ND and Miami.

[Pakuni]

Arkansas hires Memphis' Ryan Silverfield.
Coeds are safe from Bobby Petrino and his motorbike.

[Shaka Shart]

ND is beating the ever living shi1 out of mediocre teams, which is exactly what they needed and should have been doing after their early 2 losses.

Do I think that earned them a spot? Maybe not as I think Vanderbilt is a much more compelling case but I'm far from upset and conspiratorial if they're given it due to how the selections work.

I guess it's not Notre Dame's fault the ACC is a dump. (Play in a conference, pretty boys)

[MU82]

Not only has Kiffin decided to bail for LSU, but he's reportedly told his offensive staff to be on the flight with him, or they won't be hired at LSU, which he's doing to pressure Ole Miss to let him coach.

To quote a Twitter post I saw today, "Lane Kiffin wakes up everu morning like 'how can I be the most Lane Kiffin version of myself today?' and then he delivers."

A quitter AND a dirtball. Stunning.

[Pakuni]

A quitter AND a dirtball. Stunning.

Ehhh ... hard to call him a quitter when he's pushing hard to continue coaching his team the rest of the season. If he isn't coaching them in the playoffs, that's an Ole Miss decision, not a Lane Kiffin decision. (For the record, they should not let him coach in the playoffs if he's taking the LSU job).

The real blame here lies with the NCAA, for creating a portal and recruiting timeline that forces this. Push both back six weeks, and coaches can wait until after their season ends to make a move. But with the portal opening Jan.2 and signing day Feb. 5, coaches can't afford to wait until mid-January to get started at their new job.

[The Sultan]

Ehhh ... hard to call him a quitter when he's pushing hard to continue coaching his team the rest of the season. If he isn't coaching them in the playoffs, that's an Ole Miss decision, not a Lane Kiffin decision. (For the record, they should not let him coach in the playoffs if he's taking the LSU job).

The real blame here lies with the NCAA, for creating a portal and recruiting timeline that forces this. Push both back six weeks, and coaches can wait until after their season ends to make a move. But with the portal opening Jan.2 and signing day Feb. 5, coaches can't afford to wait until mid-January to get started at their new job.

You can't have a transfer portal open up a few weeks into the second semester. It just wouldn't work for the student athlete.