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Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 08, 2025, 01:28:30 PMWhat's the worst that could happen? It's not as if college players and kids could possibly obtain insider information on pro games. Certainly, no pros would engage in any activities to influence the outcome of a game.

Certainly no college student would find himself on a losing streak and be willing to sell inside info or miss a couple free throws to bail himself out of a jam.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: The Sultan on October 08, 2025, 03:52:14 PMThis thread is amazing.

https://x.com/OllieConnolly/status/1976021814905332067

Came to post this too.

Is there a bigger disaster of a coaching hire you can think of? Urban Meyer to Jacksonville was a trainwreck but that's nothing compared to this.
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MU82

I have to admit I'm loving it.

I bet Brady is, too.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 08, 2025, 08:42:36 PMCame to post this too.

Is there a bigger disaster of a coaching hire you can think of? Urban Meyer to Jacksonville was a trainwreck but that's nothing compared to this.

Im SHOCKED that someone who was notoriously crabby and short tempered with grown men/professionals at the pinnicle of their sport...would quickly grow tired of working with 18 and 19 year olds

cheebs09

Quote from: JWags85 on October 09, 2025, 08:10:42 AMIm SHOCKED that someone who was notoriously crabby and short tempered with grown men/professionals at the pinnicle of their sport...would quickly grow tired of working with 18 and 19 year olds

But enough about his relationship and let's get back to his coaching.

cheebs09

I can't imagine a team wanting to hire him, but I think for sure a network would. I am sure Brady would push back with Fox, but I imagine ESPN or even Amazon would push to have him.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 09, 2025, 09:43:20 AMI can't imagine a team wanting to hire him, but I think for sure a network would. I am sure Brady would push back with Fox, but I imagine ESPN or even Amazon would push to have him.

He should start a podcast at The Ringer
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

The Sultan

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 09, 2025, 09:43:20 AMI can't imagine a team wanting to hire him, but I think for sure a network would. I am sure Brady would push back with Fox, but I imagine ESPN or even Amazon would push to have him.


Wasn't he on ESPN last year? He didn't really offer all that much insightful. Just a grumpy looking guy with a monotone voice. Not sure why any network would shell out big bucks for the guy - is anyone tuning in because of him?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan on October 09, 2025, 09:54:08 AMWasn't he on ESPN last year? He didn't really offer all that much insightful. Just a grumpy looking guy with a monotone voice. Not sure why any network would shell out big bucks for the guy - is anyone tuning in because of him?

Is even one viewer not related to or friends with Tom Brady tuning in to watch a game because Brady is the analyst?

Fox paid 849 bazillion bucks for him, anyway.

So I have little doubt that the football coach some consider the best ever could land a nice contract with one of the networks.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on October 09, 2025, 10:33:17 AMIs even one viewer not related to or friends with Tom Brady tuning in to watch a game because Brady is the analyst?

Fox paid 849 bazillion bucks for him, anyway.

So I have little doubt that the football coach some consider the best ever could land a nice contract with one of the networks.

It's kind of a weird standard to judge by. Is anyone turning into any game because of the announcer?
Maybe back in the day, when there were 3-4 nationally broadcast games a week, people tuned in for Madden because his presence signaled "this is a big game." And maybe one could argue some tuned in to MNF 50 years ago to hear Cosell. And if you want to cross sports, maybe Vitale in his 90s heyday.
But nowadays, I'd be hard-pressed to think of any announcers in any sport who themselves are the draw.

The Sultan

I think the Brady deal was clearly in response to Romo, who hit it big off the bat, but now that the Romo novelty has worn off, that clearly was a bad contract.

That being said, the one game I saw that Brady was doing, he was actually fine. Not great, but an improvement.
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tower912

If I am casually watching a game that I am not emotionally invested in, Benetti.
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MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on October 09, 2025, 10:43:24 AMIt's kind of a weird standard to judge by. Is anyone turning into any game because of the announcer?
Maybe back in the day, when there were 3-4 nationally broadcast games a week, people tuned in for Madden because his presence signaled "this is a big game." And maybe one could argue some tuned in to MNF 50 years ago to hear Cosell. And if you want to cross sports, maybe Vitale in his 90s heyday.
But nowadays, I'd be hard-pressed to think of any announcers in any sport who themselves are the draw.

Yup.

Quote from: The Sultan on October 09, 2025, 10:49:11 AMI think the Brady deal was clearly in response to Romo, who hit it big off the bat, but now that the Romo novelty has worn off, that clearly was a bad contract.

That being said, the one game I saw that Brady was doing, he was actually fine. Not great, but an improvement.

Agree with all of this. I've also seen one Brady game this season, and he was fine, the same way vanilla Herbstreit is "fine." But I think we can agree that neither I nor anybody else watched that game because he was the analyst.

Quote from: tower912 on October 09, 2025, 10:50:32 AMIf I am casually watching a game that I am not emotionally invested in, Benetti.

There are several play-by-play announcers and analysts that I really like. But I've been watching sports on TV for more years than I care to mention, and I can honestly say that I never once tuned in because of who the announcers were. If I want to watch a game (and I often do), I'll watch it. A very few are so freakin' bad (Dickey Simpkins, take a bow) that I will mute the sound, but otherwise it's immaterial.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Pakuni on October 09, 2025, 10:43:24 AMIt's kind of a weird standard to judge by. Is anyone turning into any game because of the announcer?
Maybe back in the day, when there were 3-4 nationally broadcast games a week, people tuned in for Madden because his presence signaled "this is a big game." And maybe one could argue some tuned in to MNF 50 years ago to hear Cosell. And if you want to cross sports, maybe Vitale in his 90s heyday.
But nowadays, I'd be hard-pressed to think of any announcers in any sport who themselves are the draw.

Not necessarily tuning in, but if I turn on a game and Greg Olsen is the analyst, I'll watch because he brings excellent insight without it being a shtick (Romo).

I used to tune in for Gus Johnson (mid to late 2000s) until he became a parody of himself.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MU82

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 09, 2025, 11:26:13 AMNot necessarily tuning in, but if I turn on a game and Greg Olsen is the analyst, I'll watch because he brings excellent insight without it being a shtick (Romo).

I used to tune in for Gus Johnson (mid to late 2000s) until he became a parody of himself.

Totally, on both.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Great opportunity for our boys to right the ship tonight as we host Iowa.  Coach Fickell should have these guys primed to win a trophy game.  On Wisconsin!
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

Uncle Rico

Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

WhiteTrash


Uncle Rico

I believe James Franklin's buyout is close to $50 million
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 11, 2025, 05:47:26 PMI believe James Franklin's buyout is close to $50 million
Give Crowdsource about a week?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 11, 2025, 05:54:40 PMGive Crowdsource about a week?

Honestly, Penn State does a dance marathon every year to raise money for childhood cancer.  I bet they could do that and raise the money for this, too
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

WhiteTrash

I remember when Indiana was a basketball school.

That might be the best win of the year.

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