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WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on December 14, 2025, 04:36:39 PMI wasn't aware that he was an AD or coach.
Of course you'd be silent if the Indiana Governor jumped in with threats of legal action on ND's behalf.  ::)

The selection committee got it right while simultaneously torpedoing it's legitimacy.  No reasonable person will pay attention to the in season polls.

Pakuni

#1101
Quote from: MU82 on December 14, 2025, 03:01:20 PMThe same way? He was a total arse.

Others have expressed disappointment over the years without being d-bags. Unlike ND, Florida State actually was hosed two years ago, and their reaction wasn't as dirtbaggy.

Not to re-litigate old controversies, but Florida State wasn't hosed. They weren't a playoff-quality team at the end of the season, a fact supported by every single metric the CFP is supposed to use.
As for dirtbaggy, I mean, the AD did claim the decision made the playoff results illegitimate and later used the snub to extort the ACC for better terms on its possible exit. That's pretty dirtbaggy, I'd say.

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on December 14, 2025, 03:27:40 PMYou expected better from Trailer Park Manziel?

It gets better...

https://x.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/2000301228274901283?s=46

I like cocky players that back it up.  Arrogant athletes backing it up and balling out are amazing.  Manziel was electric and a a spectacle.  But Pavia has taken all the negative aspects of Manziel and amplified them.  He was fun as hell and a great story at NMSU, but since he got to Nashville it's been a steady descent into peak hateability.

Manziel did plenty of dumb stuff that was varying levels of unlikable depending who you asked, but that's nothing compared to having your family wandering on the field at games starting fights and getting arrested multiple times while you smirk and condone it.  That's not swag, that's not cocky, that's just trash behavior championed by a try hard douche.

I also have never seen a media tour come off so poorly as Pavia the last few weeks.  It was short on charm and charisma and veering into anything but.  For all his faults, Manziel was the unquestioned biggest story and most exciting player in CFB that Heisman season, nothing was forced.  Pavia is none of that but thinks he is and more AND thinks it's complete BS that he's not thought of as such so F everyone else. It's just not remotely entertaining or engaging, that ship sailed months ago.

WhiteTrash

One of my partners is a Vanderbilt alumn, and in his his words in October, " nobody's quite sure how he got into Vanderbilt" .


MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on December 14, 2025, 05:16:09 PMNot to re-litigate old controversies, but Florida State wasn't hosed. They weren't a playoff-quality team at the end of the season, a fact supported by every single metric the CFP is supposed to use.
As for dirtbaggy, I mean, the AD did claim the decision made the playoff results illegitimate and later used the snub to extort the ACC for better terms on its possible exit. That's pretty dirtbaggy, I'd say.

Ok, thanks.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Pavia's apology:

"To be so close to my dream and come up short was painful," Pavia wrote. "I didn't handle those emotions well at all and did not represent myself the way I wanted to. I have much love and respect for the Heisman voters and the selection process, and I apologize for being disrespectful. It was a mistake, and I am sorry."

He continued:

"Fernando Mendoza is an elite competitor and a deserving winner of the award. I have nothing but respect for his accomplishments as well as the success that Jeremiyah and Julian had this season. ...

"I've been doubted my whole life. Every step of my journey I've had to break down doors and fight for myself, because I've learned that nothing would be handed to me. My family has always been in my corner, and my teammates, coaches and staff have my six. I love them — I am grateful for them. — and I wouldn't want anything to distract from that. I look forward to competing in front of my family and with my team one more time in the ReliaQuest Bowl."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

He's only been in college 6 years.  Just needs to mature a little bit.

Shaka Shart

#BanGBWarrior

Shaka Shart

Quote from: MU82 on December 15, 2025, 10:33:26 AMPavia's apology:

"To be so close to my dream and come up short was painful," Pavia wrote. "I didn't handle those emotions well at all and did not represent myself the way I wanted to. I have much love and respect for the Heisman voters and the selection process, and I apologize for being disrespectful. It was a mistake, and I am sorry."

He continued:

"Fernando Mendoza is an elite competitor and a deserving winner of the award. I have nothing but respect for his accomplishments as well as the success that Jeremiyah and Julian had this season. ...

"I've been doubted my whole life. Every step of my journey I've had to break down doors and fight for myself, because I've learned that nothing would be handed to me. My family has always been in my corner, and my teammates, coaches and staff have my six. I love them — I am grateful for them. — and I wouldn't want anything to distract from that. I look forward to competing in front of my family and with my team one more time in the ReliaQuest Bowl."

Can anyone ever make an apology without making it into them facing adversity. Just apologize.
#BanGBWarrior

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Shaka Shart on December 15, 2025, 03:16:03 PMCan anyone ever make an apology without making it into them facing adversity. Just apologize.
Literally, everyone is a victim these days, most especially SEC starting QBs. You don't know the trials they experience every day. I give them credit for just getting out of bed :"I've been doubted my whole life. Every step of my journey I've had to break down doors and fight for myself" . Pavia is cut from the same cloth as Gandhi and Mandela.   

MU82

Quote from: Shaka Shart on December 15, 2025, 03:16:03 PMCan anyone ever make an apology without making it into them facing adversity. Just apologize.

Sorry for posting that, but it was tough being a Jewish kid in Connecticut.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

CreightonWarrior

I highly doubt he even wrote it. More of an agent or PR team doing damage control.

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