To the Rafters

[Uncle Rico]

The simplest solution is not to retire the jersey of anyone that has not won a national title because, quite frankly, they're all failures

[Nukem2]

The simplest solution is not to retire the jersey of anyone that has not won a national title because, quite frankly, they're all failures

Such a low bar! 

[StillAWarrior]

The simplest solution is not to retire the jersey of anyone that has not won a national title because, quite frankly, they're all failures

I think you need to have won a national title and been named NPOY -- or at least consensus AA. I don't want to see any scrubs from a title team up there.

[avid1010]

Got it...winning has nothing to do with being an MU great.

[wadesworld]

I think you need to have won a national title and been named NPOY -- or at least consensus AA. I don't want to see any scrubs from a title team up there.

I'll take a scrub who wins over an All American who makes the program worse.  There is no Elite 8 run without a Davidson defender glued to Jake Thomas in the corner on Vander Blue's game winning drive.  Raise that jersey into the banners.

[tower912]

Well, Hutchins has been brought up.  Diener was all about the NIT without Wade.  Chones didn't win anything and abandoned his team in the middle of the season.
If you are going to prioritize post season wins at the expense of overwhelming numbers and accolades,  then Vander Blue and Junior Cadougan should be next.

Pretty sure their 7 tournament wins are more than anybody since the AL era.

[Uncle Rico]

I think you need to have won a national title and been named NPOY -- or at least consensus AA. I don't want to see any scrubs from a title team up there.

I think this is better than my idea.

[Uncle Rico]

Well, Hutchinson has been brought up.  Diener was all about the NIT without Wade.  Chones didn't win anything and abandoned his team in the middle of the season.
If you are going to prioritize post season wins at the expense of overwhelming numbers and accolades,  then Vander Blue and Junior Cadougan should be next.

Take Kojis jersey down.  Guy never made it past the 2nd round when the tournament had like 9 teams, 6 of which were playing dudes that would be plumbers and dentists

[Jay Bee]

Lotsa Scoopers seem to hate elite offenses. Very odd.

[tower912]

Lotsa Scoopers seem to hate elite offenses. Very odd.

I think you should make one of your in depth, deep dive, number cases for the elite offense.

[wadesworld]

Scoop: If Shaka wants 3s and layups then he needs to start recruiting shooters.

Also Scoop: I hate Markus.

[tower912]

Scoop: If Shaka wants 3s and layups then he needs to start recruiting shooters.

Also Scoop: I hate Markus.

Don't forget 'need more pull-ups and tear drops.'


Also, I hate all of the transfers these days.    Except the Hausers.  They are heroes.

To be fair, many of the last group also lament MU not participating in the portal

[NCMUFan]

Crean bailed on MU for it's IU, IU, IU.
Don't understand the love. 
He was paid a handsome salary and provided the resources to succeed at MU.
He always felt the Big 10 was superior to the Big East.

[Uncle Rico]

Crean bailed on MU for it's IU, IU, IU.
Don't understand the love. 
He was paid a handsome salary and provided the resources to succeed at MU.
He always felt the Big 10 was superior to the Big East.

It was time for both parties to make a change.

[tower912]

Kissed and made up.

[MUDPT]

The reason Doc is up there, is because TC wanted his son at Marquette.

[dgies9156]

Let's say you're a HS recruit. You follow TikTok and watch videos on YouTube. Do you care what grainy videos you can find from the 60s and 70s? No. You want to see that recent MU greats got hung in the rafters and that could be you too! McNeal probably doesn't deserve it, we can argue all day about Howard but I'd wager that Shakas trying to get modern guys up there that peak the curiosity of current recruits rather than glorify an era from their grandparents' generation. So expect to see Kolek and Kam probably Crowder (or even Lazar or DJO since McNeal's getting retired) before you see Jimmy Mac or any of the 70s guys or further back.

This makes the most sense of all as to why Markus' jersey is being retired.

[TallTitan34]

Also, many were present when Crean was inducted into the M Club Hall of Fame.

[Uncle Rico]

This makes the most sense of all as to why Kam's jersey is being retired. Ditto for Jeral.

Big honor for Kam

[The Sultan]

Big honor for Kam

And Jeral.

[The Sultan]

Let's say you're a HS recruit. You follow TikTok and watch videos on YouTube. Do you care what grainy videos you can find from the 60s and 70s? No. You want to see that recent MU greats got hung in the rafters and that could be you too! McNeal probably doesn't deserve it, we can argue all day about Howard but I'd wager that Shakas trying to get modern guys up there that peak the curiosity of current recruits rather than glorify an era from their grandparents' generation. So expect to see Kolek and Kam probably Crowder (or even Lazar or DJO since McNeal's getting retired) before you see Jimmy Mac or any of the 70s guys or further back.

They literally retired Chones number last year.

And Jerel is almost 40. These recruits weren't even born when he played.

[Uncle Rico]

They literally retired Chones number last year.

And Jerel is almost 40. These recruits weren't even born when he played.

And Chones wasn't very good

[79Warrior]

Crean bailed on MU for it's IU, IU, IU.
Don't understand the love. 
He was paid a handsome salary and provided the resources to succeed at MU.
He always felt the Big 10 was superior to the Big East.

Thank Stanford for that one.

[dgies9156]

Big honor for Kam

Teach me to write on draft day. Happy for Kam and for Markus.

I expect Kam's jersey will be retired in due course.

        

[jfp61]

Imagine Suns fans hating Steve Nash because he never got them to a Finals.

This thread wasn't about Andrew Rowsey