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The Sultan

#75
Today at 10:27:53 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 10:17:59 AMHoward over Diener in any situation is a travesty.

Not really. If you have Kolek on the team, I would much prefer Howard playing off the bal over Deiner. But if you don't have a point guard of that quality, I would take Travis.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

avid1010

#76
Today at 10:36:23 AM Last Edit: Today at 10:56:23 AM by avid1010
Quote from: Uncle Rico on Today at 10:26:14 AMThe Hausers agreed to play for Wojo.  One played with Howard for 3 years and even let him live with him.  They must be dumb.
I think they were 100% correct to leave, and I wouldn't have wanted my kid to play for Wojo or with Howard.  I would feel the exact opposite on Shaka, Diener, Kolek, Kam, Miller, Smith, etc.

In fairness, I have no idea what Howard would have looked like in Shaka's system, and I'm sure none of this would be happening without Shaka's approval.

avid1010

#77
Today at 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 10:27:53 AMNot really. If you have Kolek on the team, I would much prefer Howard playing off the bal over Deiner. But if you don't have a point guard of that quality, I would take Travis.
I would love to see TD and TK on the same team.

tower912

#78
Today at 10:41:19 AM
Anybody can leave for any reason as we see every day. 

I will start a team with the all time leading scorer in Big East history every day.

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

#79
Today at 10:47:22 AM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 10:41:19 AMAnybody can leave for any reason as we see every day. 

I will start a team with the all time leading scorer in Big East history every day.



Basketball isn't about scoring
"Well, we're all going to die."

avid1010

#80
Today at 10:48:37 AM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 10:41:19 AMAnybody can leave for any reason as we see every day. 

I will start a team with the all time leading scorer in Big East history every day.


I would consider winning in my criteria.

tower912

#81
Today at 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 10:48:37 AMI would consider winning in my criteria.
I am.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

#82
Today at 10:50:07 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 10:48:37 AMI would consider winning in my criteria.

Again, it's strange that you would place the accomplishments of a team solely on one individual who makes up that team. (Not to mention that team did a fair bit of winning.)
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

avid1010

#83
Today at 10:55:34 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 10:50:07 AMAgain, it's strange that you would place the accomplishments of a team solely on one individual who makes up that team. (Not to mention that team did a fair bit of winning.)
I give plenty of credit to Sam for their winning...it didn't go well without him.

tower912

#84
Today at 10:55:54 AM
To get NIT-picky, how successful were the MU teams that Travis led without Wade?  With another NBA player by his side?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

#85
Today at 10:57:41 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 10:55:34 AMI give plenty of credit to Sam for their winning...it didn't go well without him.

So Sam gets all the credit, but Markus gets all the blame. Gotcha.

(Marquette was going to be in the 2020 tournament without Sam by the way.)
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

#86
Today at 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 10:55:54 AMTo get NIT-picky, how successful were the MU teams that Travis led without Wade?  With another NBA player by his side?

That's different.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

avid1010

#87
Today at 11:07:01 AM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 10:55:54 AMTo get NIT-picky, how successful were the MU teams that Travis led without Wade?  With another NBA player by his side?
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 10:55:54 AMTo get NIT-picky, how successful were the MU teams that Travis led without Wade?  With another NBA player by his side?
I get that...though the NBA was clear as to which player it preferred.

tower912

#88
Today at 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 10:58:01 AMThat's different.

Far enough removed for the sepia to kick in.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

#89
Today at 11:09:21 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 11:07:01 AMI get that...though the NBA was clear as to which player it preferred.
Irrelevant to their time at MU.  And, a different time.  How many sub 6 ft players are currently in the league?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

#90
Today at 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 11:07:01 AMI get that...though the NBA was clear as to which player it preferred.

Wow, the NBA favored a 6'7" player over a 5'10" one? Amazing!

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

#91
Today at 11:24:52 AM
Oh, avid meant Hauser.  Mea culpa.  I thought he was referring to the NBA preferring Diener.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

#92
Today at 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: tower912 on Today at 11:24:52 AMOh, avid meant Hauser.  Mea culpa.  I thought he was referring to the NBA preferring Diener.

Oh I think you are right. Sorry. Travis was a better point guard than Markus, which is why he stuck in the NBA.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jay Bee

#93
Today at 11:50:34 AM
As an NBA starter... Markus 20 ppg with an eFG% of more than 71%.

All those career games, yet Travis couldn't match Markus' game high in points.

#M2N
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Galway Eagle

#94
Today at 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 11:07:01 AMI get that...though the NBA was clear as to which player it preferred.

So let me see if I get your logic

If Markus wins with sam then credit to Sam.
If Travis wins with Wade then credit to Travis.

If Markus wins 20 games leading a tournament team in a major league without any real help while Travis wins 19 leading a NIT team in a mid major league, with a future 2nd rounder teammate then default to tenure in a different league that doesn't having any baring on college basketball?

I mean defaulting to nba career we should put Juan and Jamal above Markus as well.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Galway Eagle

#95
Today at 12:47:53 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 10:19:45 AMI'm 40.  I question the brains of anyone that agreed to play for Wojo.  I wouldn't have wanted to play with Howard.

That'd include Justin, Oso, Kam and Stevie and the hausers.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

tower912

#96
Today at 12:58:59 PM
(Horshack yelling ooh,ooh)  here is a fun, completely irrelevant comparison.   The year after Diener left, a bunch of freshmen took MU to the tournament.   The year after Markus left  Wojo got fired.   So, clearly, by this logic, Diener was holding his guys back, Markus was holding his guys up.


Compete and utter guano.   Carry on.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jfp61

#97
Today at 12:59:37 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on Today at 10:17:59 AMHoward over Diener in any situation is a travesty.
Kam Jones over both. At least he has a chance defensivly.

Nukem2

#98
Today at 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 12:59:37 PMKam Jones over both. At least he has a chance defensivly.
Markus was a 2 time All American, all time BE scoring leader, BE POY, etc. Hard to overlook all that.

Jay Bee

#99
Today at 01:06:41 PM
Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 12:59:37 PMKam Jones over both. At least he has a chance defensivly.

Hopefully defensively too!!
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