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Quote from: tower912 on April 15, 2025, 06:46:54 AMFor $1 mil, Shaka will sit down with a scooper for an hour and let the scooper tell him everything he is doing wrong.  From the portal, to not employing an aircraft carrier or shooting mid range jumpers, to his fashion sense.

I am going to need more than an hour on his fashion sense
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DFW HOYA

Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2025, 07:52:58 AMI think the chances of raising $100M for an NIL endowment isn't very high. That would be about 10% of the University's current overall endowment which supports all sorts of varied educational programs and scholarships. Furthermore when you have annual operational needs for NIL that approach $6 million or so, my guess is that you are going to struggle to even get there annually much less multiply that by a factor of 20.

Raising that money specifically for athletics is especially difficult in private schools where the endowment is critical to operations and donors are targeted for operations over athletics. Put another way, schools like MU would rather take a seven figure check for a faculty chair than for NIL.

Shooter McGavin

I think we are underestimating the power of basketball at our University.  I agree with Sultan that the money could go to much more practical needs.  But part of this University's identity is basketball and without it the alumni engagement will be much less. That will lead to less giving, less enrollment and future donors. If it can be done, an NIL endowment is a necessary evil.  MU has to figure it out to stay relevant.  Has to be done.  Probably as important as any other project on campus in the big picture.

tower912

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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 15, 2025, 08:25:25 AMI'm guessing WVB and WBB maybe can stand on their own barely breaking even or maybe run at a small loss but as far as Lax Track n Field soccer etc how long do those programs really have?

as a part of Give Marquette Day VB fundraises for travel. They may not be able to keep up.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2025, 10:41:54 AMas a part of Give Marquette Day VB fundraises for travel. They may not be able to keep up.

That'd be a huge loss. Those games draw pretty well and it's been our most stable program since I was a sophomore which isn't exactly yesterday...
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#UnleashSean

I think the most likely solution would be a major downsizing of all non revenue sports. IE theres zero need for Marquette track to be going to new york for meets in the Big East. I forsee a bunch of these sports going into new midwestern conferences while things like the Big Ten, Big East, etc exist for revenue sports.

The Sultan

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 15, 2025, 10:18:55 AMI think we are underestimating the power of basketball at our University.  I agree with Sultan that the money could go to much more practical needs.  But part of this University's identity is basketball and without it the alumni engagement will be much less. That will lead to less giving, less enrollment and future donors. If it can be done, an NIL endowment is a necessary evil.  MU has to figure it out to stay relevant.  Has to be done.  Probably as important as any other project on campus in the big picture.


Sorry, the bolded is not what I meant to imply. I think it's just going to be extremely difficult to raise money for a $100M "NIL endowment." The University has a ton of wonderful donors, but it doesn't seem like they are as oriented as much toward basketball and athletics as they are at other places.

Of course endowing $100 million worth of other things frees up resources that Marquette can use on NIL. That is likely the route they will have to go.

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The Sultan

Quote from: #UnleashSean on April 15, 2025, 11:57:31 AMI think the most likely solution would be a major downsizing of all non revenue sports. IE theres zero need for Marquette track to be going to new york for meets in the Big East. I forsee a bunch of these sports going into new midwestern conferences while things like the Big Ten, Big East, etc exist for revenue sports.

It's likely that there will just be less scholarships available more than impacting travel.
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: #UnleashSean on April 15, 2025, 11:57:31 AMI think the most likely solution would be a major downsizing of all non revenue sports. IE theres zero need for Marquette track to be going to new york for meets in the Big East. I forsee a bunch of these sports going into new midwestern conferences while things like the Big Ten, Big East, etc exist for revenue sports.

there are no dual meets in both XC and T&F, only one Big East championship (in Storrs for T&F this season). Other than a meet in Berkeley, the teams do not compete outside of the midwest during this season.
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Mug Rack

We already cut all scholarships for XC, track and tennis. They can't compete at even a low level with that funding. The NCAA requires 14 sports to be division 1. MU is at 16, with XC and indoor and outdoor track counting as 6. So those teams should be safe, if being among the very worst teams in the Midwest and all of division 1 is safe. Tennis could easily be cut, and likely will now that scholarships are gone. Men's golf could also be cut, but it's probably very low cost to operate.

I'm not sure what teams MU needs to sponsor to be in Big East. To keep men's basketball in Big East MU must sponsor a minimum number of men's and women's sports, so maybe no room to drop even the max of 2 to stay division 1.

muwarrior69

Quote from: The Sultan on April 15, 2025, 12:55:05 PMIt's likely that there will just be less scholarships available more than impacting travel.

Are "Scholarships" separate from the Athletic Department budget or are they included. If they are included that is 1 million per year (70k x 15) just for men's basketball out of the AD budget. 

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 15, 2025, 12:58:34 PMthere are no dual meets in both XC and T&F, only one Big East championship (in Storrs for T&F this season). Other than a meet in Berkeley, the teams do not compete outside of the midwest during this season.

I threw out track just because. I didnt actually look at anything. However, just looking at the composite schedule right now, Mens Lacrosse is going to Washington DC, Mens golf is in NC, mens and woman's tennis went to xavier, Then tennis will be headed to SC, Track will be back in CT.

That was just April, I did not look to see what any of these teams did in February/March nor does this include the NCAA championships in each sport. To me, this was all fine when basketball was able to pay for all of these other sports. But now that it's not, it seems like a lot of bloated travel for non revenue sports.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Mug Rack on April 15, 2025, 01:13:55 PMWe already cut all scholarships for XC, track and tennis. They can't compete at even a low level with that funding. The NCAA requires 14 sports to be division 1. MU is at 16, with XC and indoor and outdoor track counting as 6. So those teams should be safe, if being among the very worst teams in the Midwest and all of division 1 is safe. Tennis could easily be cut, and likely will now that scholarships are gone. Men's golf could also be cut, but it's probably very low cost to operate.

I'm not sure what teams MU needs to sponsor to be in Big East. To keep men's basketball in Big East MU must sponsor a minimum number of men's and women's sports, so maybe no room to drop even the max of 2 to stay division 1.

I'm sure this is a wider issue then just Marquette, and am also sure the NCAA will be knocking down sporting requirements with schools looking to offload the bloated travel schedules. Were in unprecedented times for college sports, I don't think we really need to look at current regulations outside of title 9. Sweeping changes will be coming.

The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 15, 2025, 01:15:12 PMAre "Scholarships" separate from the Athletic Department budget or are they included. If they are included that is 1 million per year (70k x 15) just for men's basketball out of the AD budget. 

I have no idea what budget it actually sits, but any type of financial aid, academic scholarships, need based aid, or athletic scholarships, is generally budgeted for by the campus. As will direct NIL payments to the athletes.
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Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 15, 2025, 02:03:37 PMWill Scoop have to pay players for using their image for the SOTG after each win?

That's probably only like 8 games next year :/
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Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 15, 2025, 10:18:55 AMI think we are underestimating the power of basketball at our University.  I agree with Sultan that the money could go to much more practical needs.  But part of this University's identity is basketball and without it the alumni engagement will be much less. That will lead to less giving, less enrollment and future donors. If it can be done, an NIL endowment is a necessary evil.  MU has to figure it out to stay relevant.  Has to be done.  Probably as important as any other project on campus in the big picture.
Ah, yes, NIL. The great savior to college BB and FB. Millions of bucks thrown around, players at  3 or 4 schools, players not showing up for practice and asking for more money, transfers galore, coaches getting out because of it, and most importantly, money talks.
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tower912

I find this surprising, willie.  Based on your non-stop criticism of Shaka for eschewing the portal and NIL bag drops, I assumed you were a huge fan of NIL.
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The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on April 15, 2025, 02:55:46 PMI find this surprising, willie.  Based on your non-stop criticism of Shaka for eschewing the portal and NIL bag drops, I assumed you were a huge fan of NIL.

Willie's not a fan of anything.
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tower912

With his obsession with snagging a big NIL bucks aircraft carrier from the portal, and his criticism of Shaka and MU for failing to land one, I just assumed he was a fan.   Mea culpa.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Quote from: Jay Bee on April 15, 2025, 02:12:41 PMThat's probably only like 8 games next year :/

A segment of Scoop would call this overly optimistic.
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Quote from: #UnleashSean on April 15, 2025, 09:34:12 AMI think this is soon going to be true for all schools "revenue sports"

Does title 9 get protections when the teams become employees over students?

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Yes. Student employees are still students
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Quote from: willie warrior on April 15, 2025, 02:48:17 PMAh, yes, NIL. The great savior to college BB and FB. Millions of bucks thrown around, players at  3 or 4 schools, players not showing up for practice and asking for more money, transfers galore, coaches getting out because of it, and most importantly, money talks.
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