Is Tre Norman In The Portal?

[tower912]

I appreciate how you have raised your sarcasm game these last couple of months.  You are really good at doing it in such a way that people have to double and triple check whether you are serious.

[Uncle Rico]

I appreciate how you have raised your sarcasm game these last couple of months.  You are really good at doing it in such a way that people have to double and triple check whether you are serious.

I agree with this analysis

[burger]

With 15 player squads and with his lack of improvement he will get his 5 minutes of playing time next year because he can not be put on the court....His +/- had to be the worst on the team....And there are too many of players competing for playing time....He will bail for sure after next year because of the lack of playing time....For sure....

[Vander Blue Man Group]

With 15 player squads and with his lack of improvement he will get his 5 minutes of playing time next year because he can not be put on the court....His +/- had to be the worst on the team....And there are too many of players competing for playing time....He will bail for sure after next year because of the lack of playing time....For sure....

I'm pretty confident Tre is going to be in the rotation and play more than 5 MPG.

[Galway Eagle]

I'll give Tre this, during his Jen Lada interview he said "you haven't seen the best Tre Norman" so he's aware of himself right now. My guess is he gets the start early next year and if he doesn't show he's taking it to a next level then he'll get benched for Parham or Owens.

[tower912]

I'll give Tre this, during his Jen Lada interview he said "you haven't seen the best Tre Norman" so he's aware of himself right now. My guess is he gets the start early next year and if he doesn't show he's taking it to a next level then he'll get benched for Parham or Owens.

Parham and Owens currently play different positions than Tre.  Though DO could get looks at PG.  Tre and Sean are competing to be the starting PG.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I'll give Tre this, during his Jen Lada interview he said "you haven't seen the best Tre Norman" so he's aware of himself right now. My guess is he gets the start early next year and if he doesn't show he's taking it to a next level then he'll get benched for Parham or Owens.

I don't think he'll start unless he has an outstanding offseason.

Parham will absolutely be starting at the 4 to start the season.

[BM1090]

I don't think he'll start unless he has an outstanding offseason.

Parham will absolutely be starting at the 4 to start the season.

I'm guessing we'll go Sean/Tre, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold as starters. I think we could see Royce more as an undersized 5 who plays in and out on offense while Gold gets to move more into a 4 role.

Ben will probably still have to defend 5s.

[tower912]

Parham in the Joplin role is a no-brainer.  I had said that Owens starting was written in ink.  OK, erasable ink. Zaide played better and will probably replace Stevie.  DO replaces both Zaide and Chase and plays a lot of minutes.  If Sean starts and plays 30 mpg, Shaka will have to make some adjustments on defense.  Ben on the perimeter with Sean guarding the post simply will not work.  Defensive switching is the reason I think Tre has a chance at starting.

[Galway Eagle]

Parham and Owens currently play different positions than Trey.  Though DO could get looks at PG.  Try and Sean are competing to be the starting PG.

Right but given who else is more switchable I don't see why tre falling out couldn't push say Zaide to a wing opening up a Forward role. I also think Tre is competing for starting 2.

If we're going off of what Shakas "get old stay old" theory would've looked like it would've been:
Sean
Tre
Chase
Zaide
Ben

So if Tre doesn't develop I could see it as:

Sean
Chase
Zaide
Owens/Parham
Ben/Parham

[forgetful]

I'm guessing we'll go Sean/Tre, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold as starters. I think we could see Royce more as an undersized 5 who plays in and out on offense while Gold gets to move more into a 4 role.

Ben will probably still have to defend 5s.

If Owens can pick up his defensive abilities, I wouldn't rule out a lineup of:

Owens, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold.

If you watch all season long, Owens was often bringing up the ball and initiating the offense, and was a solid passer. I wouldn't rule out, him playing a facilitator/lead role, if he can up his defensive game and build some strength.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Right but given who else is more switchable I don't see why tre falling out couldn't push say Zaide to a wing opening up a Forward role. I also think Tre is competing for starting 2.

If we're going off of what Shakas "get old stay old" theory would've looked like it would've been:
Sean
Tre
Chase
Zaide
Ben

So if Tre doesn't develop I could see it as:

Sean
Chase
Zaide
Owens/Parham
Ben/Parham

If healthy I don't see any way Royce doesn't start.

[BM1090]

If Owens can pick up his defensive abilities, I wouldn't rule out a lineup of:

Owens, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold.

If you watch all season long, Owens was often bringing up the ball and initiating the offense, and was a solid passer. I wouldn't rule out, him playing a facilitator/lead role, if he can up his defensive game and build some strength.

I could see that if Owens improves enough defensively. But I think they are really going to need Sean's ability to dribble penetrate this season. And I'd love Owens to keep developing so he could be a secondary creator. Having only one creator killed them this season. If Tre or Owens can develop into that or one of the freshmen is ready to assume that role, I could see them surprising this year.

[tower912]

If Owens can pick up his defensive abilities, I wouldn't rule out a lineup of:

Owens, Chase, Zaide, Parham, Gold.

If you watch all season long, Owens was often bringing up the ball and initiating the offense, and was a solid passer. I wouldn't rule out, him playing a facilitator/lead role, if he can up his defensive game and build some strength.

I mentioned that starting a few times.  That would be a line up with all kinds of offensive and defensive flexibility.  Length and athleticism.
My concern about it is balance and wow the bench rotation plays out.  Can Sean and Tre sub in at the same time?

[lalumiere's architect]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4895745/tre-norman

[MuMark]

Right but given who else is more switchable I don't see why tre falling out couldn't push say Zaide to a wing opening up a Forward role. I also think Tre is competing for starting 2.

If we're going off of what Shakas "get old stay old" theory would've looked like it would've been:
Sean
Tre
Chase
Zaide
Ben

So if Tre doesn't develop I could see it as:

Sean
Chase
Zaide
Owens/Parham
Ben/Parham

Don't see us going with 4 guys 6'5 or smaller and Ben to start games.

Certainly possible to see a lineup like that at times but more of a change up.

Tre is going to have to become an offensive player to get significant minutes.......i just don't see him and Sean playing together providing enough offense to make it work.

It will be interesting to see who wins the spots.......unlike other years we should have spirited competition for 2 or 3 spots.

[forgetful]

I mentioned that starting a few times.  That would be a line up with all kinds of offensive and defensive flexibility.  Length and athleticism.
My concern about it is balance and wow the bench rotation plays out.  Can Sean and Tre sub in at the same time?

Very good point on the bench issues, especially given that no one really knows where Sean after such a major injury.

[junglecat022]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4895745/tre-norman

Woof.

[bilsu]

I could see that if Owens improves enough defensively. But I think they are really going to need Sean's ability to dribble penetrate this season. And I'd love Owens to keep developing so he could be a secondary creator. Having only one creator killed them this season. If Tre or Owens can develop into that or one of the freshmen is ready to assume that role, I could see them surprising this year.

You can really see how much natural talent Owen's has. I do not know about his defense. I thought he was more limited by his offensive mistakes. His dribbling was not tight enough. He more than once got the ball stolen from behind. He also made poor decisions on driving to the basket. I can see him starting at point, if he improves his ball handling and decision making.

As far as the starting lineup, I do not see any player averaging 30 minutes of playing time per game.

[wadesworld]

As far as the starting lineup, I do not see any player averaging 30 minutes of playing time per game.

I'd be shocked if Chase's minutes decreased after playing through injury and losing our other 2 starting backcourt players.

[nyg]

I respect poster's opinions, but this "If Tre develops" is sort of confusing.  He enrolled right out of high school, so he has been in the program for 2 1/2 years.  After that time, he still shoots 19% from three and is barely above 50% on his free throws.  In the next six months, he is going to develop? To a 35% from three and maybe 75% from the line?  OK...

There is no way he will see time with his current stats, especially in Shaka's offensive system shooting the three.  Heck, you could not even put him on the floor in a close game at the end, it would be a "Hack a Tre" by the other team. Those reasons kept him on the bench except for spelling Mitchell after four minutes and that even stopped in last few games with Lowery spelling Mitchell instead. He then sat rest of the game.

I believed Norman would enter the portal and maybe he just likes it here, who knows.  Remember, there is a reason Shaka did a full court press on recruiting Nigel James and Nyk Lewis.  Sean Jones coming off ACL and Norman with his liabilities. 

Still early for starting lineups next year, portal still open even though I believe Shaka only BE coach not to take a player so far.

[burger]

By the 10th game.....He will be relegated to 5th guy off the bench....

By mid-season in the Big East.....He will be doing filler minutes when we have foul trouble....

Call me wrong then.....

[NCMUFan]

Woof.

Looks consistent.

[BCHoopster]

Tre is not in the portal, simple who would want to pay him, sure MU is paying him more then any other school in America.  Nigel James is the backup and Norman a distant 3 And if Owens has improved he is 4th.  I see his time as mope up time. Has a nice attitude and good smile!

[The Sultan]

Tre is not in the portal, simple who would want to pay him, sure MU is paying him more then any other school in America.  Nigel James is the backup and Norman a distant 3 And if Owens has improved he is 4th.  I see his time as mope up time. Has a nice attitude and good smile!

Mope up time is ironically funny.