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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: nyg on March 22, 2025, 11:47:42 AMJust curious, but how do you know Norman can shoot in practice?

I've seen it with my eyeballs.  I even posted about it here a month or two ago.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Hards Alumni

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 22, 2025, 12:10:36 AMAssuming no major roster changes...

Sean Jones - 28
Chase Ross - 28
Zaide Lowery - 30
Royce Parham - 30
Ben Gold - 30

Owens - 20
Norman - 10
Hamilton - 8
Stevens - 8
Clark - 5
James - 5

Amadou, Miletic - Spot minutes
Phillips - RS

Ross not getting the most minutes on the team would shock me.  He played 38 minutes last night.  And he will be a senior.

nyg

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 22, 2025, 11:49:17 AMI've seen it with my eyeballs.  I even posted about it here a month or two ago.

OK, didn't realize you went to the practices. 

Billy Hoyle

Isn't Gold going pro? Read here coming into the season he was going to be a first round pick.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: nyg on March 22, 2025, 11:59:49 AMOK, didn't realize you went to the practices.
Did he?  He didn't say he saw practices.  He said he's "seen it with my eyeballs".  For all he's given, all he's seen is Tre hit a couple threes in warmups. 

And regardless, nobody has that broken of a shot and shoots it well suddenly out of public sight.  It's gaslighting. 

Mu8891

Tre can shoot in practice ... uh huh. Sure he can.

Mike Deane once said to me:
" No one has ever scored a point in practice "

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 22, 2025, 12:06:04 PMIsn't Gold going pro? Read here coming into the season he was going to be a first round pick.


No one said this.

I do think Gold will eventually get a cup of coffee. 7 footers who can shoot and dedend have an advantage on most other players.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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nyg

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 22, 2025, 12:09:03 PMDid he?  He didn't say he saw practices.  He said he's "seen it with my eyeballs".  For all he's given, all he's seen is Tre hit a couple threes in warmups. 

And regardless, nobody has that broken of a shot and shoots it well suddenly out of public sight.  It's gaslighting. 

Oh yes he did. Said it in a prior post in this thread and that is why I asked him.  He gave me a curt "I've seen it with my eyeballs", and said he mentioned some time ago.  I am not researching poster's past, so I presumed he has been to the practices like he advised. 

Jockey

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 22, 2025, 12:19:22 PMNo one said this.

I do think Gold will eventually get a cup of coffee. 7 footers who can shoot and dedend have an advantage on most other players.

So you must also think Steven Crowl will get AT LEAST a cup of coffee? I don't. Centers who average 5 pts. and less than 3 boards AND don't block shots aren't even on NBA radars.

Yet, Crowl is a better 3 pt. shooter, better passer, better defender, and better rebounder than Gold. And Nolan Winter from UW has better numbers than Ben, as well.

A little realism needs to kick in. I am very optimistic about this team if we can get a big man from the portal who can average 12/7. I think that immediately puts us in at least the Sweet 16 conversation for next year.

Pakuni

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Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 22, 2025, 12:19:22 PMNo one said this.

I do think Gold will eventually get a cup of coffee. 7 footers who can shoot and dedend have an advantage on most other players.

Even your keyboard rejected the idea that Ben can defend.
A halfway competent NBA center will feast on him worse than competent college centers have feasted on him lately. If Zuby Ejiofor is turning him into a turnstile and Nelly Junior Joseph is going to bully him with ease, how's he going to defend bigger, faster, more athletic bigs?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Jockey on March 22, 2025, 12:43:09 PMSo you must also think Steven Crowl will get AT LEAST a cup of coffee? I don't. Centers who average 5 pts. and less than 3 boards AND don't block shots aren't even on NBA radars.

Yet, Crowl is a better 3 pt. shooter, better passer, better defender, and better rebounder than Gold. And Nolan Winter from UW has better numbers than Ben, as well.

A little realism needs to kick in. I am very optimistic about this team if we can get a big man from the portal who can average 12/7. I think that immediately puts us in at least the Sweet 16 conversation for next year.

I don't know why you capitolized AT LEAST, I didn't say that. I said advantage, not guarentee.  I also disagree that Crowl is a better shooter or defender than Gold. He's a better college player but I think Gold has more pro potential.

Some guys take longer to develop. One of biggest criticisms of Shaka is that he hasn't gotten more out of Gold. But this is just a prediction.  I've been wrong before and will be wrong again.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2025, 12:56:26 PMWhether he can or not, though, is irrelevant.
Even your keyboard rejected the idea that Ben can defend.
A halfway competent NBA center will feast on him worse than competent college centers have feasted on him lately. If Zuby Ejiofor is turning him into a turnstile and Nelly Junior Joseph is going to bully him weith ease, how's he going to defend bigger, faster, more athletic bigs?

Ben wouldn't be a center in the NBA. I'm not suggesting he's ready now.  I'm making a prediction on future potential.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Big Papi

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 22, 2025, 11:49:17 AMI've seen it with my eyeballs.  I even posted about it here a month or two ago.

That's amazing if true.

I have season tickets and usually get to games early and have spent lots of time watching pre game warmups. No pressure on shots. 

Form was not good. He slings the ball for one but what really nailed the coffin was late in the season, they were wrapping up warmups and I watched Tre take about 5 mid range jump shots just outside three free throw lane about 3 feet from the free throw line.

He didn't just miss all 5 shots.  He missed them badly. Like pick a fan from the stands with no athletic ability bad.  I don't want to rag on the guy but it was so bad with no pressure.

He will need to completely revamp his shot but there will not be a vast improvement.

So I have no idea how he could shoot so well in practice and look so bad on game day.

Big Papi

Anyone have any inside info on Al?

Listened to him on Marquette radio hour and he said he was the best offensive rebounder on the team. Not saying much I know but he is lanky and athletic.  Hopefully he can earn some minutes on the floor.  Otherwise he should go down a level.

BCHoopster

Quote from: Big Papi on March 22, 2025, 01:11:54 PMAnyone have any inside info on Al?

Listened to him on Marquette radio hour and he said he was the best offensive rebounder on the team. Not saying much I know but he is lanky and athletic.  Hopefully he can earn some minutes on the floor.  Otherwise he should go down a level.

He's rebounding his own shot, since he can not shoot the ball!

jfp61

Chase plays 35 minutes.
Ben plays 25-30 minutes.
Royce plays 25 minutes.

The rest of the lineup.... no idea.

Pakuni

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 22, 2025, 01:05:09 PMBen wouldn't be a center in the NBA. I'm not suggesting he's ready now.  I'm making a prediction on future potential.

Maybe I'm underrating Ben's athleticism, but I think that's a worse defensive situation for him. Not every NBA four is Giannis or Tatum, but the league is filled with 6'8"-10" fours who Ben would struggle to stay in front of.

My guess? Ben will go back Down Under and have hopefully a long and lucrative career in the ABL. Go Breakers.

Captain Quette

Thinking about our starters next year, do Scoopers think there is anyone on our roster, other than Chase, who has a chance to start on a BE championship team?

I think Zaide might get some minutes but not sure about anyone else?

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Captain Quette on March 22, 2025, 03:58:13 PMThinking about our starters next year, do Scoopers think there is anyone on our roster, other than Chase, who has a chance to start on a BE championship team?

I think Zaide might get some minutes but not sure about anyone else?

How many of our returning guys would you have said the same of going into that 22-23 season?

Pakuni

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 22, 2025, 04:12:48 PMHow many of our returning guys would you have said the same of going into that 22-23 season?

Two.

PointWarrior

Better question - can this team score in the 50's next year?


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Captain Quette

Heading into 2023, probably Oso but none of the others, as championship starters.

My thought with the question was not to provoke negativity but rather ask others how far away they think we are and expectations for next year.

Johnny B

BYU got so lucky ending up in the big 12

burger

Gold....Lowery.....Not on team yet....James....Chase....

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