I understand why Texas was done with Shaka

[WolfganghisKhan]

Totally! Let's go get Chris Beard or a Pitino. Build a program filled with kids who can't read or write. Love that idea. I'd be so proud to win 1-2 more games in March with a bunch of mercenaries instead of kids like Oso and Stevie.

like most things the truth is somewhere in the middle

[MarquetteVol]

The odds of Marquette winning another natty are not super high. But my faith is in Shaka that he'll get us there or very close. And do it with a team and an approach that reflects the values of MU. I'm probably naive and out of touch. But I don't want to win for the sake of winning. Shaka getting us there with this approach would be the ultimate story.

Not saying there aren't adjustments to be made. There are. But I'm very proud of our team, our coach and our seniors. College sports are being corrupted and we're competing at a high level with conviction and values.

[warriorfred]

Totally! Let's go get Chris Beard or a Pitino. Build a program filled with kids who can't read or write. Love that idea. I'd be so proud to win 1-2 more games in March with a bunch of mercenaries instead of kids like Oso and Stevie.

Not saying I want this, but I was shocked during a number of games when the announcer noted that a player was previously at 3 or 4 different schools. 

I prefer Marquette take the high road (like it is doing with Shaka), but there is a part of me that recognizes college athletics in major sports are minor league teams.  It is difficult not to jump aboard the win at all costs mentality.

[Hards Alumni]

When the game mattered, Stevie got burned.  Offensively he lost his confidence, has a great future with what ever he wants to do!  Good luck! To bad he went out this way.

Look man, I'm going to keep it real.  Stevie probably has 5 injuries he won't talk about.  He didn't play the last 15 minutes of that game.

He gave it all.  If you want to place blame, look elsewhere.

[muhoops1]

Four straight tourney trips. Amazing start and disappointing finish to the season. But the gaslighters go "woe is me". You wanna bring back Wojo? Yeah, no thanks.

Shaka is the best thing that's happened to this program in a long time. If 23-11 and a 7 seed is a down year. Sign me up for this forever.

And regardless. Maybe stop feeling sorry for yourselves and have some empathy for Kam, Stevie and Jop. Gonna miss those kids immensely and can't thank them enough for the joy and memories they've delivered over the last four years. The only thing I'm sad about tonight is that I don't get to see them in a MU uniform again. That sucks. They're warriors forever.

Watch the postgame press conference game press conference.  So brutal for those guys.

[dgies9156]

The odds of Marquette winning another natty are not super high. But my faith is in Shaka that he'll get us there or very close. And do it with a team and an approach that reflects the values of MU. I'm probably naive and out of touch. But I don't want to win for the sake of winning. Shaka getting us there with this approach would be the ultimate story.

Not saying there aren't adjustments to be made. There are. But I'm very proud of our team, our coach and our seniors. College sports are being corrupted and we're competing at a high level with conviction and values.

The odds of anyone winning a natty -- even Auburn, Duke or Florida -- are not that great.

I can't believe the perspective of the posters in this room. Go watch the "Morning in America" Ronald Reagan commercial. The tag line describes my feeling well:

"Do we really want to go back to where we were just four short years ago?"

[Xact]

Toxic Entitlement: An unhealthy belief or attitude in which an individual feels an unwarranted and often exaggerated sense of deserving special treatment, privileges or recognition.

I'm glad there's none of this on Scoop!

[IL Warrior]

The odds of Marquette winning another natty are not super high. But my faith is in Shaka that he'll get us there or very close. And do it with a team and an approach that reflects the values of MU. I'm probably naive and out of touch. But I don't want to win for the sake of winning. Shaka getting us there with this approach would be the ultimate story.

Not saying there aren't adjustments to be made. There are. But I'm very proud of our team, our coach and our seniors. College sports are being corrupted and we're competing at a high level with conviction and values.

Why though? He has failed in March at every challenge over the last 13 years. I'm also concerned about the level of Shaka's recruiting combined with not taking high level transfers. Our top 5 players in Shaka's tenure are 2 transfers (Kolek and Prosper) and 3 Wojo recruits (Jones, Mitchell, and Ighodaro). Next year will be telling with a roster of only Shaka's guys.

[bradforster]

This thread topic is absurd and doesn't deserve attention. 

[IL Warrior]

This thread topic is absurd and doesn't deserve attention. 

It clearly captured your attention.

[PointWarrior]

Why though? He has failed in March at every challenge over the last 13 years. I'm also concerned about the level of Shaka's recruiting combined with not taking high level transfers. Our top 5 players in Shaka's tenure are 2 transfers (Kolek and Prosper) and 3 Wojo recruits (Jones, Mitchell, and Ighodaro). Next year will be telling with a roster of only Shaka's guys.

Yep.  Sophomore and freshman classes have shown very little to be optimistic.

[MarquetteVol]

Why though? He has failed in March at every challenge over the last 13 years. I'm also concerned about the level of Shaka's recruiting combined with not taking high level transfers. Our top 5 players in Shaka's tenure are 2 transfers (Kolek and Prosper) and 3 Wojo recruits (Jones, Mitchell, and Ighodaro). Next year will be telling with a roster of only Shaka's guys.

Watch out for Chase, Parham and Owens next year.

[MarquetteVol]

And Zaide and Ben.

[warriors141]

Watch the postgame press conference game press conference.  So brutal for those guys.

Yea watch the post game...especially the last question to Shaka. He didn't get enough help for Jones and wasted an all American, plain and simple, Shaka even said it is a fair criticism

[GoldenEagles03]

https://x.com/chrisfallica/status/1903260322804257177

That tweet should be irrelevant to everyone on this board, because Shaka has been at Marquette for just 4 seasons.

[MurphysTillClose]

https://x.com/chrisfallica/status/1903260322804257177

RGV

[Billy Hoyle]

Totally! Let's go get Chris Beard or a Pitino. Build a program filled with kids who can't read or write. Love that idea. I'd be so proud to win 1-2 more games in March with a bunch of mercenaries instead of kids like Oso and Stevie.

So you weren't proud of our team when we had Kolek and O-Max?

St John's starters:
Richmond - grad transfer
Zuby - 2 years at St John's
Luis - 2 years at St John's
Wilcher - signed as a freshman
Scott - grad transfer

How about Michigan State with 11 high school signees and 2 grad transfers? Creighton which starts three signees and two transfers and brings guys they signed out of HS off the bench? Are those two programs ones fans shouldn't be proud of?

[MU_CHI]

Look man, I'm going to keep it real.  Stevie probably has 5 injuries he won't talk about.  He didn't play the last 15 minutes of that game.

He gave it all.  If you want to place blame, look elsewhere.

Don't play him then? Let Zaide loose. Blind loyalty. Chase too. Guy clearly had a broken thumb or wrist and we still allowed him to go out there and jack up shots all year.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Am missing AL and President Lovell tonight

[Mutaman]

If 23-11 and a 7 seed is a down year. Sign me up for this forever.

This appears to be the issue here: Some folks are satisfied if we are better than DePaul and Butler.

[Viper]

Thank you for confirming you really are this dumb.

why put the guy down with a personal insult? Can't you disagree with a thoughtful counter point?

[bradforster]

It clearly captured your attention.

Yes - it captured my attention enough to tell the author of it he's an ingrate.

[cheebs09]

https://x.com/chrisfallica/status/1903260322804257177

It's not a great stat for us, but I'm also of the opinion parity is skewing some of this, especially those between 5 and 12.

Maybe it's always been like this and the analytics just show it more, but it seems like many of these teams are closer than they used to be.

[wadesworld]

Shaka has been here for 4 years. Texas is about to be on their 3rd coach since then. Oops.

[IL Warrior]

Yes - it captured my attention enough to tell the author of it he's an ingrate.

Resorting to name-calling because some facts hurt your feelings? Real mature.