Empty Calories

[PGsHeroes32]

"While jop dribbles the ball of his foot".

Calling me unstable is priceless. Someone should make you read each and every one of your gamethread posts.

So the goal post shifting is to cherry pick the quote and cut out "this is on Shaka". Its not Jops fault that we kept having Kam stand in the corner off the ball as he was breaking down the D(among other guys).

I am so in your head you are back tracking worse than anyone as ever seen.

[wadesworld]

Could we at least be a program that plays to its seed once in a while? That would nice.

Playing to your seed is tough when you're a 2 seed. Making an Elite 8 is always tough, 1 seed, 2 seed, whoever. And we've otherwise had an 8 and 10 seed. Those games aren't quite tossups, but they're close.

I'll take getting the best seed in program history in back to back years with disappointing results in years 2 and 3 and then a bit of a step back in year 4. A step back was always coming.

Questioning the identity of our program after going 8 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed, 7 seed in Shaka's first 4 years is a choice. But hey, it's Scoop.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

So the goal post shifting is to cherry pick the quote and cut out "this is on Shaka". Its not Jops fault that we kept having Kam stand in the corner off the ball as he was breaking down the D(among other guys).

I am so in your head you are back tracking worse than anyone as ever seen.

You're far too stupid to be in anyone's head.

[GB Warrior]

Playing to your seed is tough when you're a 2 seed. Making an Elite 8 is always tough, 1 seed, 2 seed, whoever. And we've otherwise had an 8 and 10 seed. Those games aren't quite tossups, but they're close.

I'll take getting the best seed in program history in back to back years with disappointing results in years 2 and 3 and then a bit of a step back in year 4. A step back was always coming.

Questioning the identity of our program after going 8 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed, 7 seed in Shaka's first 4 years is a choice. But hey, it's Scoop.

Conceding that underperforming as a high seed is statistically easier, where does a step forward come from? Or should we be content that what we've just watched is as good as it gets?

[PGsHeroes32]

You're far too stupid to be in anyone's head.

And yet you quote me continually. And abort your original point to fold and go to standard "you are just too stupid" insults

Yup, I'm dealing with a real Macgyver here.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

And yet you quote me continually. And abort your original point to fold and go to standard "you are just too stupid" insults

Yup, I'm dealing with a real Macgyver here.

Not sure you understand what "continually" means. If I commented on every idiotic post of yours I wouldn't have much time left for anything else.

You're a moron. Have a nice off-season.

[wadesworld]

Conceding that underperforming as a high seed is statistically easier, where does a step forward come from? Or should we be content that what we've just watched is as good as it gets?

I mean, it hasn't been as good as it gets.

Last time I felt the roster lacked talent to compete at a high level going into an offseason we ended up winning the BE title and BET. So until Shaka isn't giving us bites at the Apple I'll just trust we'll continue to get them and hope we break through. What else is there to do?

[Dish]

Playing to your seed is tough when you're a 2 seed. Making an Elite 8 is always tough, 1 seed, 2 seed, whoever. And we've otherwise had an 8 and 10 seed. Those games aren't quite tossups, but they're close.

I'll take getting the best seed in program history in back to back years with disappointing results in years 2 and 3 and then a bit of a step back in year 4. A step back was always coming.

Questioning the identity of our program after going 8 seed, 2 seed, 2 seed, 7 seed in Shaka's first 4 years is a choice. But hey, it's Scoop.

Yup, you definitely described the empty calories feeling. Year 5 isn't ascending, and it should be when you get back to back years of being a 2 seed. Marquette, I don't think, will be terrible next year, but also have no idea what this team is going to be. I guess trust Shaka, and wait to see. For the amount MU spends on Men's basketball though, it all feels mid right now.

[The Sultan]

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[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I would say the loss to MSU was a bigger disappointment. That team had a huge upside.

That team could've won it all. Massive disappointment. That one should haunt everybody.

[PGsHeroes32]

Not sure you understand what "continually" means. If I commented on every idiotic post of yours I wouldn't have much time left for anything else.

You're a moron. Have a nice off-season.

"repeated frequently in the same way; regularly."

"in a constantly repeated manner : over and over"

You cannot actually be this stupid. Again, just admit you are lashing out and we will move on.

[wadesworld]

Yup, you definitely described the empty calories feeling. Year 5 isn't ascending, and it should be when you get back to back years of being a 2 seed. Marquette, I don't think, will be terrible next year, but also have no idea what this team is going to be. I guess trust Shaka, and wait to see. For the amount MU spends on Men's basketball though, it all feels mid right now.

Since Al was our head coach 50 years ago, when has a run of 8, 2, 2, and 7 seeds been "mid?" I get it, losing early in the Tournament sucks. But acting like Shaka is lost is crazy.

[warriorfred]

For the amount MU spends on Men's basketball though, it all feels mid right now.

There is always that in the back of my head when I evaluate a season.  This past year I heard a number of commentators (more than I recall) mention the amount Marquette spends on basketball . . . and yet it never quite seems to produce FinaL Fours.

Yes, yes, I understand the tourney is a flunky thing, and Marquette has had an amazing four-year regular season run.  But I am only human when I say to myself, coulda, woulda, shoulda . . .

[Dish]

Since Al was our head coach 50 years ago, when has a run of 8, 2, 2, and 7 seeds been "mid?" I get it, losing early in the Tournament sucks. But acting like Shaka is lost is crazy.

Again, the problem is, what did you gain off of 2 and 2? Things should be pointed clearly upwards. I don't think anyone here thinks that they clearly are.

[warriorfred]

Kind of feel like the years after the 2003 Final Four run when Marquette could not build on that success.

Hopefully it feels better in a few days.

[LAZER]

Since Al was our head coach 50 years ago, when has a run of 8, 2, 2, and 7 seeds been "mid?" I get it, losing early in the Tournament sucks. But acting like Shaka is lost is crazy.

When it comes to the tourney, I don't think it's crazy to say he seems lost. His underperformance is a long term pattern at this point. And while regular season performance is important, the tournament kind of trumps all.

[The Sultan]

Kind of feel like the years after the 2003 Final Four run when Marquette could not build on that success.

Maybe my expectations are just different, but I don't expect linear growth. I expect a program like Marquette to trend upwards, but have occasional set backs. I think most programs are that way.

[PointWarrior]

That team could've won it all. Massive disappointment. That one should haunt everybody.

Awesome - we blew it two years ago.  And we should not feel bad cause this years team had no chance. 

But we are heading in the right direction ?

[Biggie Clausen]

Whatever else there is to say about Shaka, at least he doesn't make excuses.  During the Wojo years, it was always "We're the youngest team in the oldest league" or "It's really hard to win in college basketball" or whatever other crap he would say through gritted teeth.  I've never heard Shaka say something similar.  A bite at the apple, with an occasionally *really* good bite at it, is the standard for this program.  He's delivered that his first four years, and it's what I expect next year, regardless of roster.

[warriorfred]

Maybe my expectations are just different, but I don't expect linear growth. I expect a program like Marquette to trend upwards, but have occasional set backs. I think most programs are that way.

You are probably correct, but I don't like the idea of Marquette being like "most programs." 

[panda2.0]

Maybe my expectations are just different, but I don't expect linear growth. I expect a program like Marquette to trend upwards, but have occasional set backs. I think most programs are that way.

Roster construction and building year to year is much different now than it was even four years ago. The portal allows teams to stay competitive every year.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Roster construction and building year to year is much different now than it was even four years ago. The portal allows teams to stay competitive every year.

Do you think the portal is a guarantee?

How'd that go for IU and Kansas this season?

[The Sultan]

You are probably correct, but I don't like the idea of Marquette being like "most programs."

Marquette is a smallish, private university with decent but not great resources. Our top end is probably Jay Wright, Villanova type success. Nova's growth under Wright was hardly linear - he had plenty of ups and downs.

[The Sultan]

Roster construction and building year to year is much different now than it was even four years ago. The portal allows teams to stay competitive every year.

Except when it doesn't of course.

Look, I am hardly against the portal. However I am for trusting the coach who has been hired to lead the program until he proves he shouldn't be.

And he hasn't.

[panda2.0]

Do you think the portal is a guarantee?

How'd that go for IU and Kansas this season?

There are no guarantees in recruiting but bringing in players who fit your programs profile who are 20/21/22 gives you a much better opportunity to win right away bringing in a 17 year old.