Grace Period is over

[The Sultan]

If he continues to not improve the roster by choice and underperform, then it's worth criticizing.

No kidding!

But when I criticized dpu for saying "If he turns up his nose up to the portal again I want him gone." You said he was right. Wanting someone gone because they aren't building the team the way you want him to, is dumb.

Don't think he should be fired either, but the blind defense by you and others about his approach is stupid, and if some are calling it out, then they should. Opportunities to improve the roster have been hitting him in the face and this summer it was obvious they needed portal help. And if guys leave so fucking be it. That's how you win in now in CBB.

I will trust the coach to build the program how he wants until he doesn't win. Do I think he should get size in the portal? Yes.

Do I want him gone if he doesn't? Absolutely not. If he starts losing? Yes.

[MurphysTillClose]

No kidding!

But when I criticized dpu for saying "If he turns up his nose up to the portal again I want him gone." You said he was right. Wanting someone gone because they aren't building the team the way you want him to, is dumb.


I will trust the coach to build the program how he wants until he doesn't win. Do I think he should get size in the portal? Yes.

Do I want him gone if he doesn't? Absolutely not. If he starts losing? Yes.

Yeah he's got a few months to figure it out, because everyone banking on "development" success next season are in for a hard year. And it's worth calling out.

[The Sultan]

Yeah he's got a few months to figure it out, because everyone banking on "development" success next season are in for a hard year. And it's worth calling out.

Then you are arguing something completely different than what I responded to dpu about.

Try to keep up next time OK?

[MurphysTillClose]

Then you are arguing something completely different than what I responded to dpu about.

Try to keep up next time OK?

No thanks bitch.

[The Sultan]

No thanks bitch.

LOL. So mad because my logic has you tied up in knots and you can't do anything but lash out.

Another win for me.

[MurphysTillClose]

LOL. So mad because my logic has you tied up in knots and you can't do anything but lash out.

Another win for me.

Nah you just love losing. Makes sense though.

[warriors141]

All the back and forth arguing and name calling makes this unreadable

[Zog from Margo]

Outside of Jop, his best players were Wojo's and transfers. He hasn't proved anything recruiting high schoolers.

Lots of wins, but very little to suggest it's sustainable

If you rank Stevie as one of his best players, I'm fairly confident Lowery will be at least as good next year. Down the stretch, Lowery's D was just as good (better tonight) and Lowery at least provides some threat to score. I'm also fairly confident that Parham, in time, will be better than Jop. Kam will be tough to replace on offense. Owens has a lot of upside and MU seems to have a very good recruiting class. We'll see. Frankly, I'll be glad we're past the point when the Wojo-ists try to find some way to credit Wojo for Shaka's success.

[The Sultan]

Makes sense though.

Of course it does! Thanks for the acknowledgement.

Now don't you feel silly?

[MurphysTillClose]

Of course it does! Thanks for the acknowledgement.

Sultan's a kitten?

Yes, exactly

[bradforster]

97 wins in 4 years?  Give me another 4 like that.

Amen.  Some people are ungrateful, disillusioned, incorrigible and miserable. 

[Pakuni]

97 wins in 4 years?  Give me another 4 like that.

1. Shaka has overall done a terrific job at Marquette and we should be thrilled with his success to date.
2. Shaka made mistakes this year that led to an underwhelming season and another tournament loss to a lower seed.
3. The lack of production/development from much of the returning cast is reason for concern. Not everyone chooses blind faith.

All of these things can be (and are) true.

[MarquetteVol]

And if you don't believe in what we're doing. Watch this:

https://youtu.be/HQIqCtBEr6M?si=oD4A9J-pEq_F3Ola

It's about finding the right roster that buys into the culture. This team had some gaps. But they were closer to cutting down nets than then the CBI. There are so many coaches in America that would have been 3-18  with this squad vs 18-3. It's about finding the right roster for the culture. Shaka is threading a tight needle but I believe in him.

[warriors141]

And if you don't believe in what we're doing. Watch this:

https://youtu.be/HQIqCtBEr6M?si=oD4A9J-pEq_F3Ola

It's about finding the right roster that buys into the culture. This team had some gaps. But they were closer to cutting down nets than then the CBI. There are so many coaches in America that would have been 3-18  with this squad vs 18-3. It's about finding the right roster for the culture. Shaka is threading a tight needle but I believe in him.

Shaka, while not saying he was wrong, basically said not having mature physical talent off the bench was a fair crticism

[bradforster]

And if you don't believe in what we're doing. Watch this:

https://youtu.be/HQIqCtBEr6M?si=oD4A9J-pEq_F3Ola

It's about finding the right roster that buys into the culture. This team had some gaps. But they were closer to cutting down nets than then the CBI. There are so many coaches in America that would have been 3-18  with this squad vs 18-3. It's about finding the right roster for the culture. Shaka is threading a tight needle but I believe in him.

I feel badly for Kam after watching this press conference.  He loves this school and his teammates.  What a great kid.  What a tremendous college career. 

[bradforster]

I feel badly for Kam after watching this press conference.  He loves this school and his teammates.  What a great kid.  What a tremendous college career. 

[warriors141]

I feel badly for Kam after watching this press conference.  He loves this school and his teammates.  What a great kid.  What a tremendous college career. 

I do too....and maybe instead of talking about his team not having poise he should have been out last off season and gotten our PG a big

[dpucane]

No kidding!

But when I criticized dpu for saying "If he turns up his nose up to the portal again I want him gone." You said he was right. Wanting someone gone because they aren't building the team the way you want him to, is dumb.


I will trust the coach to build the program how he wants until he doesn't win. Do I think he should get size in the portal? Yes.

Do I want him gone if he doesn't? Absolutely not. If he starts losing? Yes.

It has nothing to do with how I want to build a team.

Marquette is the only team doing this because it's obviously not the best way to build a contender and everyone else accepted that. There were glaring holes that weren't addressed and there will be glaring holes that won't be addressed in the future with this mindset. We can all see where this is headed. I do not want to watch a team try to be the 12th best team every year and talk about doing it the right way. Again, that's just the Bulls.

[MarquetteVol]

I feel badly for Kam after watching this press conference.  He loves this school and his teammates.  What a great kid.  What a tremendous college career. 

I feel for these guys, period. I don't think Stevie could emotionally be in the press room. I'll take 3-star and 3.5+ star kids that live and die to represent our school.

It's so easy to throw shade at them but they're in anguish. These kids respect the program, uniform and institution. I'm so disappointed they lost tonight. But not for me. For them. Because they gave everything they had to representing MU. Sorry to the haters that wasn't enough.

[MU_CHI]

Shaka has no one to blame but himself for this. Offense never adjusted throughout the season. Every single player regressed.

Anyways, no killers on this team. Kam continuously passing on opportunities to take the 6-10 guy 1-1 was the end of it.  So disappointing.

[MU_CHI]

Anyone who thinks Shaka did a good job this year is brain dead and has blind loyalty. He has no backbone as a coach.

Next year will be much of the same. Some good early wins, level out to top 40ish with a 1st or 2nd round loss.

[Mutaman]

I feel for these guys, period. I don't think Stevie could emotionally be in the press room. I'll take 3-star and 3.5+ star kids that live and die to represent our school.

It's so easy to throw shade at them but they're in anguish. These kids respect the program, uniform and institution. I'm so disappointed they lost tonight. But not for me. For them. Because they gave everything they had to representing MU. Sorry to the haters that wasn't enough.

I'm disappointed for me.

[Viper]

Amen.  Some people are ungrateful, disillusioned, incorrigible and miserable. 

I'm surprised your take. 97 wins or whatever gets us what? Is ncaa tourney 2nd weekend too much to ask for? Seriously, for a program like Marquette...first weekend outs, losing to lower seeds. Turn over the roster annually if need be. Second weekend one time since that E8 with Buzz. Damn.

[MU_CHI]

I feel for these guys, period. I don't think Stevie could emotionally be in the press room. I'll take 3-star and 3.5+ star kids that live and die to represent our school.

It's so easy to throw shade at them but they're in anguish. These kids respect the program, uniform and institution. I'm so disappointed they lost tonight. But not for me. For them. Because they gave everything they had to representing MU. Sorry to the haters that wasn't enough.

Yeah no one is saying they didn't try their hardest...

There was a lack of coaching these players to their potential.

[#UnleashSean]

I'm not going to get crazy like the rest. But marquettes flaws were shown in early January.

Since that time, there have been zero fixes for the exposed flaws. And I do mean zero. Nothing was ever fixed.